dEnnis the Menace Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Didn't wanna make a new thread so I figured I'd post the question here: when will we find out if Sheriff Shanny is going to discipline tootoo? I didn't see anything on NHL's site, or anywhere else. All I saw was the notion that they looked at the hit, but hadn't decided what to do yet, and since the Preds don't play again until tomorrow, they had an extra day to decide. I get this strange feeling that shanny is going to say that the misconduct and major were enough, but I seriously hope that is not the case. It's just inviting more trouble, especially since the play was in the crease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bmwolf21 Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Didn't wanna make a new thread so I figured I'd post the question here: when will we find out if Sheriff Shanny is going to discipline tootoo? I didn't see anything on NHL's site, or anywhere else. All I saw was the notion that they looked at the hit, but hadn't decided what to do yet, and since the Preds don't play again until tomorrow, they had an extra day to decide. I get this strange feeling that shanny is going to say that the misconduct and major were enough, but I seriously hope that is not the case. It's just inviting more trouble, especially since the play was in the crease. Agreed. The silencing is deafening in this case. I hope it isn't indicative of the way Shanny is leaning. Now I hope that the other incident (the Flames-Canucks) puts a little more public pressure on Shanny and co to resolve this immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrannustyrannus Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 So, any word on Goose's injury? My guess hearing upper body and seeing when he skated off... he broke/fractured/screwed up his right hand. IMO. I think at this point Shanny has to do something or we are gonna go from crisis to catastrophe. If he doesn't and it happens a 3rd time than what? If nothing happens now after all the bullsh!t and considering its MILLER again, it will be open season on goalies. As for the game: Welcome back Tyler Ennis. Your speed, hands, shot, and all around slickness have been missed. Keep it up. Sekera skated the best I have seen him yesterday. He still is not tough enough in the zone. Speaking of tough, Ehrhoff apperently finally got his nuts through customs... took long enough. MAG sucks (dead horse srry). McNabb is a animal and the more I see the more i like. Finley is a little slow but he seems to be worth a slot on the Amecks and maybe someday he could make it on the Sabres. Kassian is learning quickly and his raw strength and size is creating room for him and his teammates. The bad: Our veterans (they have been here for 7 years they are freaking vets!!!!!) need to do something. They are really sad and weak. IDK if Ruff is coaching the fight out of them or what but this board has me thinkng... I don't know how, but MAGs was +3 this game. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I don't know how, but MAGs was +3 this game. Go figure. The first two Buffalo goals he was on the ice for :34 and 1:07 so I'll give him those. On Ennis' goal he had just stepped on the ice for a line change. He doesn't work the PK, so he's not on for the first Preds goal and he was on the bench after the 16 minute mark of the third so he's not there for the last one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Didn't wanna make a new thread so I figured I'd post the question here: when will we find out if Sheriff Shanny is going to discipline tootoo? I didn't see anything on NHL's site, or anywhere else. All I saw was the notion that they looked at the hit, but hadn't decided what to do yet, and since the Preds don't play again until tomorrow, they had an extra day to decide. I get this strange feeling that shanny is going to say that the misconduct and major were enough, but I seriously hope that is not the case. It's just inviting more trouble, especially since the play was in the crease. I just read in another article that there hasn't been an incident where a player was suspended for running into a goaltender. I'm not sure if thats true but I'm thinking Shanny will say 5 and a game was good enough. Tootoo does have his past going against him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarasotaSabre Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I am sorry I didn't see your message and have sent you one in return and again I also apologize for taking it where it should of never gone. Go SABRES We are good to go, I sent you one in return.........GO SABRES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 http://www.thefastertimes.com/hockey/2011/12/04/ryan-miller-jordin-tootoo-collision-should-there-be-suspensions/ I can not believe this article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 http://www.thefaster...be-suspensions/ I can not believe this article Holy ######, whoever wrote that article is way off base. Tootoo has a reputation for being a scumbag for a reason and Miller and the Sabres reaction was completely justified. I just hope the young guys we've called up (Tropp, Kassian, McNabb, Finley) find a way to stay up with the team. They've added a level of toughness to this roster that has been lacking for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 http://www.thefaster...be-suspensions/ I can not believe this article WOW! talk about having blinders on. I have rewatched the collision so many times. The first time I saw it, I was almost agreeing that Ehrhoff was steering Tootoo into Miller, then it became apparent that he was trying to hook him and steer him away AFTER the puck was poked away. Yet Tootoo still drove to the net, when he could've avoided the contact altogether. I won't say easily avoided, but heck, I could've avoided contact, and I'm not great on skates. But, I've already posted this, and I digress... The fact that the writer wants Miller suspended is laughable at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 my apologies if this was addressed upthread: i've heard and read statements about how the team reacted much more appropriately after tootoo's run than lucic's run. and i saw the scrum after the play, and that was all well and good. i'd be interested, though, to hear people's takes on (1) whether the guys on the ice needed to dance with whoever they partnered with, then and there and (2) whether someone from the sabres needed to call out someone on the other squad to answer the bell later in the game. because i'm sorta feeling like that's what should've happened. i didn't see it live, but while i watched the replay, i was sorta waiting for tropp to jump tootoo once the scrum got broken up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 my apologies if this was addressed upthread: i've heard and read statements about how the team reacted much more appropriately after tootoo's run than lucic's run. and i saw the scrum after the play, and that was all well and good. i'd be interested, though, to hear people's takes on (1) whether the guys on the ice needed to dance with whoever they partnered with, then and there and (2) whether someone from the sabres needed to call out someone on the other squad to answer the bell later in the game. because i'm sorta feeling like that's what should've happened. i didn't see it live, but while i watched the replay, i was sorta waiting for tropp to jump tootoo once the scrum got broken up. I think Goose Staked his claim on Tootoo, and when Tootoo was escorted to the dressing room, he staked a claim on the Preds goalie... I was fine with the reaction of the sabres. Ehrhoff, and Goose dove straight into the pile after he was hit and started pounding on Tootoo. Ehrhoff also took that penalty later in the game as soon as someone got close to Miller. I think that all set the tone in it of itself, especially Goose calling out their goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 my apologies if this was addressed upthread: i've heard and read statements about how the team reacted much more appropriately after tootoo's run than lucic's run. and i saw the scrum after the play, and that was all well and good. i'd be interested, though, to hear people's takes on (1) whether the guys on the ice needed to dance with whoever they partnered with, then and there and (2) whether someone from the sabres needed to call out someone on the other squad to answer the bell later in the game. because i'm sorta feeling like that's what should've happened. i didn't see it live, but while i watched the replay, i was sorta waiting for tropp to jump tootoo once the scrum got broken up. At the risk of more innuendo..... :wub: This is what I'd want to have happen. IMO a proper response would've been a full out donnybrook among everyone on the ice at the time of the incident AND someone from the Preds getting called out later to answer for Tootoo. THAT is what would get noticed from other teams around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 At the risk of more innuendo..... :wub: This is what I'd want to have happen. IMO a proper response would've been a full out donnybrook among everyone on the ice at the time of the incident AND someone from the Preds getting called out later to answer for Tootoo. THAT is what would get noticed from other teams around the league. we are usually of a mind when it comes to matters hockey-related -- so such feelings are natural, to be expected, and, of course, reciprocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 At the risk of more innuendo..... :wub: This is what I'd want to have happen. IMO a proper response would've been a full out donnybrook among everyone on the ice at the time of the incident AND someone from the Preds getting called out later to answer for Tootoo. THAT is what would get noticed from other teams around the league. we are usually of a mind when it comes to matters hockey-related -- so such feelings are natural, to be expected, and, of course, reciprocal. We're still talking manly hugs here, right? Right? :unsure: No more animated "unsure" emoticon? I hate this upgrade. :angry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 We're still talking manly hugs here, right? Right? :unsure: No more animated "unsure" emoticon? I hate this upgrade. :angry: Just make a note of it and I'll add it back in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 At the risk of more innuendo..... :wub: This is what I'd want to have happen. IMO a proper response would've been a full out donnybrook among everyone on the ice at the time of the incident AND someone from the Preds getting called out later to answer for Tootoo. THAT is what would get noticed from other teams around the league. I'd have loved someone from the preds getting his face broken after Tootoo was ejected and at the post game Lindy saying well they ran our goalie and we had to make sure that people know its not acceptable. Instead of having him whinning about 1 versus 2 minutes of pp time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 We're still talking manly hugs here, right? Right? :unsure: to be sure. I'd have loved someone from the preds getting his face broken after Tootoo was ejected and at the post game Lindy saying well they ran our goalie and we had to make sure that people know its not acceptable. Instead of having him whinning about 1 versus 2 minutes of pp time. not unfair. OTOH, lindy included the power play injustice toward the end of his rant. but i agree -- the mere inclusion of it seems to suggest that the potential for an in-game competitive advantage is part of the calculus that goes through his head when he assesses that sort of incident. that's penny-wise. it'd be better to play that game with a depleted bench and then have to call up guys from the minors for a few games, if it meant that your team just went ballistic on the other squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 We're still talking manly hugs here, right? Right? :unsure: Would it be awkward if I started calling hime Audsie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 to be sure. Ummm, yeah. That's what I meant too. Yeah, that's it. *phew* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 The funny thing is....the same sort of play happened to Ennis a month ago, and he crashed into the net screwing up his ankle. The other team loses control and manages to run our concussed goalie. Our guy loses control and hurts himself for 6 weeks. "Winning is not a goal, it is a belief." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Would it be awkward if I started calling hime Audsie? Add "in bed" to the end of any sentence in which you address him as "Audsie". If it sounds, well, flamboyant (not that there's anything wrong with that), then yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 Add "in bed" to the end of any sentence in which you address him as "Audsie". If it sounds, well, flamboyant (not that there's anything wrong with that), then yes. So I should remove the feather boa when addressing him as well. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 The funny thing is....the same sort of play happened to Ennis a month ago, and he crashed into the net screwing up his ankle. The other team loses control and manages to run our concussed goalie. Our guy loses control and hurts himself for 6 weeks. "Winning is not a goal, it is a belief." What does this post mean? Are you implying that Ennis getting hurt on that play is somehow indicative of the Sabres being soft? And if you think Tootoo "lost control" on that play, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 What does this post mean? Are you implying that Ennis getting hurt on that play is somehow indicative of the Sabres being soft? And if you think Tootoo "lost control" on that play, I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. Yes. That's the point....their guy drives to the net and our soft defenseman rides him....yet everyone assumes he has control and willfully smashes Miller. Our guy "drives" to the net, the defenseman rides him, and everyone clammors for a penalty on their guy and/or suspension because it's obvious Ennis had no control. You are right on both of them. That's the difference in team philosophy. Our D will allow a player with an edge to drive the net and use the riding as an excuse to go "What the heck? Might as well plow him." Our offense meets a d-man who refuses to give up the territory and blows his ankle out on a post. It isn't pure coencidence. It's an attitude. Tootoo's goal wasn't to run Miller, but when in Rome....... I wish we played with that sort of attitude instead of having to overcompensate for a total team failure in Miller's previous game. Obviously Lindy didn't seem to care about the 2 points in his "press conference". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 5, 2011 Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I've kept quiet for weeks about this, even with the wiff against the Isles. I don't get all the Leino hate. He has played a lot better than what is portrayed by many here. I don't have a problem with him,... yet. Well, Connolly isn't here to kick around anymore.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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