Robviously Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 I get all the complaining about the inconsistencies, but when you're watching a show about a zombie apocalypse it might be a little bit ok if things don't quite match up with reality all the time. There's a big difference between buying into a show with a far-fetched concept and that show being wildly inconsistent about the world/story it's portraying. The Matrix is a movie about humans logging into computer simulation to fight evil robots using kung fu. Sounds pretty silly, right? And yet it's a really satisfying movie because it builds this entire universe, establishes its rules, and sticks to them over all three acts. In The Walking Dead, the zombies are as fast or slow, or as strong or weak, as they need to be in any particular scene. The pilot episode had a concept where the father/son that Rick meets didn't want to fire a gun because the noise would attract more zombies from all directions; I don't think this ever came up again. Half the conflict comes from the characters making obviously poor decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assquatch Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 There's a big difference between buying into a show with a far-fetched concept and that show being wildly inconsistent about the world/story it's portraying. The Matrix is a movie about humans logging into computer simulation to fight evil robots using kung fu. Sounds pretty silly, right? And yet it's a really satisfying movie because it builds this entire universe, establishes its rules, and sticks to them over all three acts. In The Walking Dead, the zombies are as fast or slow, or as strong or weak, as they need to be in any particular scene. The pilot episode had a concept where the father/son that Rick meets didn't want to fire a gun because the noise would attract more zombies from all directions; I don't think this ever came up again. Half the conflict comes from the characters making obviously poor decisions. Yes! And there's another scene where they camouflage themselves among the zombies by rubbing entrails on themselves but the zombies catch onto them when the rain starts to wash it off. Ok so how about putting a liver and some fava beans in your pocket and roam about freely? Also Michonne uses similar camouflage by pulling two zombies along with her after removing their arms and lower jaw. So she walks freely among a pack of other zombies because she's connected to two of them with a rope? But somehow they would detect her if the ropes weren't there? We're supposed to feel some sort of dread when a certain character is seemingly trapped in a situation, but you can't feel it properly when you don't know if the rules they've been teaching us the whole time will be followed or not. Will the zombies sense of smell work? Will their hearing? Will they be fast or slow? Has a loud hissing moaning zombie snuck up on the group undetected again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DumbPuck Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 Yes! And there's another scene where they camouflage themselves among the zombies by rubbing entrails on themselves but the zombies catch onto them when the rain starts to wash it off. Ok so how about putting a liver and some fava beans in your pocket and roam about freely? Also Michonne uses similar camouflage by pulling two zombies along with her after removing their arms and lower jaw. So she walks freely among a pack of other zombies because she's connected to two of them with a rope? But somehow they would detect her if the ropes weren't there? We're supposed to feel some sort of dread when a certain character is seemingly trapped in a situation, but you can't feel it properly when you don't know if the rules they've been teaching us the whole time will be followed or not. Will the zombies sense of smell work? Will their hearing? Will they be fast or slow? Has a loud hissing moaning zombie snuck up on the group undetected again? I know I've been yelled at for providing spoilers here in the past but I feel I need to let you all in on the secret that is causing these inconsistencies: THE ZOMBIES HAVE MAGIC!@ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 There's a big difference between buying into a show with a far-fetched concept and that show being wildly inconsistent about the world/story it's portraying. The Matrix is a movie about humans logging into computer simulation to fight evil robots using kung fu. Sounds pretty silly, right? And yet it's a really satisfying movie because it builds this entire universe, establishes its rules, and sticks to them over all three acts. In The Walking Dead, the zombies are as fast or slow, or as strong or weak, as they need to be in any particular scene. The pilot episode had a concept where the father/son that Rick meets didn't want to fire a gun because the noise would attract more zombies from all directions; I don't think this ever came up again. Half the conflict comes from the characters making obviously poor decisions. They've used the bullet gun thing a million times. Remember the last two episodes of season 2? That herd of zombies started to follow Rick and Carl once Jr shot zombie Shane. And then there was last season where the prison alarms attracted a ton of them. The prison is now overrun by zombies mostly due to the sound of the big battle. I don't see any problem with the way they handle sound attracting them. They need to be fairly close in order for it to be a big deal. If they hear a gun shot from 2 miles away, they may start heading in that direction, but something else will wind up distracting them long before they get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 But half the fun of watching a good tv show is thinking about and guessing what might happen next. You need to rely on rules that have been followed in the past in order to have a framework of what might be to come. If they are inconsistent with the rules of that universe there's no way to have an investment in wondering about where he plot might go next. There's a big difference between buying into a show with a far-fetched concept and that show being wildly inconsistent about the world/story it's portraying. The Matrix is a movie about humans logging into computer simulation to fight evil robots using kung fu. Sounds pretty silly, right? And yet it's a really satisfying movie because it builds this entire universe, establishes its rules, and sticks to them over all three acts. In The Walking Dead, the zombies are as fast or slow, or as strong or weak, as they need to be in any particular scene. The pilot episode had a concept where the father/son that Rick meets didn't want to fire a gun because the noise would attract more zombies from all directions; I don't think this ever came up again. Half the conflict comes from the characters making obviously poor decisions. I guess I just watch these types of shows for the mindless empty entertainment calories that they provide. Just like how I wouldn't try to dissect the musical nuances of a pop radio song or the culinary wizardry of a Big Mac. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 I'm with you Claude, its based on a comic series which in and of itself is fantasy so...I just want to be entertained and I have been. I'm not going to dissect the nuances of the show or its lack of realism. Its a zombie show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted February 21, 2014 Report Share Posted February 21, 2014 I'm with you Claude, its based on a comic series which in and of itself is fantasy so...I just want to be entertained and I have been. I'm not going to dissect the nuances of the show or its lack of realism. Its a zombie show. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted February 22, 2014 Report Share Posted February 22, 2014 Finally caught the episode from Sunday.... It was better than last week.... Carol kinda came outta nowhere, that was a lil gaudy I suppose.... And again they make it seem like a main character died (this week Glenn, last week Rick) but we can see right through the scenes knowing that Glenn wasn't on the bus, etc... I never read the comics, but we're back to another group of "possibly evil" army guys now.... I will keep watching but I have been underwhelmed by the first episodes since the break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobody Posted February 23, 2014 Report Share Posted February 23, 2014 ...and you never see any of them pooping. Whats up with that? You would if it was a French made Zombie show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 You would if it was a French made Zombie show. I'd love to see one of them gnarly zombies pinch a big 3 or 4 coiler right there on the screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Wow, two shows in one. All the Rick/Carl/Michonne stuff was great. Rick's escape from the 2nd floor while the house filled up with gang members was really well done, and the pink room with the dead family that Michonne found was incredibly eerie. If it needed a grade, it'd be a solid A. Then there was the other plot line -- where Glen and that girl were hanging out with a bunch of cartoon characters: hillbilly army guy, swimsuit model "army girl" in hot pants and a tank top, and sling blade guy who is "smarter than you" but was apparently not smart enough to bother to learn how to use weapons in the 2+ years since the zombie apocalypse started. Sure, why not? This wasn't just bad, it was SyFy channel movie bad. Sharknado bad. Chris Hardwick said these are important characters from the comics so maybe this will suck a little less moving forward. BTW, is it wrong that I'm sorta jealous of Daryl? Like a zombie apocalypse wouldn't be that bad if it meant running around the woods with Beth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 BTW, is it wrong that I'm sorta jealous of Daryl? Like a zombie apocalypse wouldn't be that bad if it meant running around the woods with Beth? She looks a wee bit young for my tastes. I'd much rather be alone in the woods with Maggie, Tara or even Michonne at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Beth is actually in her high 20s in real life. 28 Edited February 24, 2014 by Tankalicious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 Beth is actually in her high 20s in real life. 28 I realized that but she still LOOKS young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 These new characters should answer some questions about the epidemic. I think it was a good move to bring them in at this point, to add another much needed storyline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 These new characters should answer some questions about the epidemic. I think it was a good move to bring them in at this point, to add another much needed storyline I'm sure the comic book readers have insight but not sure how much I trust a doctor with a raging mullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEnnis the Menace Posted February 24, 2014 Report Share Posted February 24, 2014 I'm sure the comic book readers have insight but not sure how much I trust a doctor with a raging mullet. That's precisely what my girlfriend said last night haha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 That was funny but we have nuns reading here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skaught Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Is it just me or does Doctor Mullet appear to be slightly Autistic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Is it just me or does Doctor Mullet appear to be slightly Autistic? Are you implying he's… not a… DOCTOR?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdexchange Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 That was funny but we have nuns reading here. Sorry Chz, my bad. Here is an off-site link, with the obligatory NSFW warning, so as not to offend anyone: http://persephonemagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/cutting-grass.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted February 26, 2014 Report Share Posted February 26, 2014 Anyone who watched Star Trek can appreciate that one LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 Lets get away from the negativity for a bit... AWESOME opening to tonight's episode no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 I need the distraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MILFHUNTER#518 Posted March 3, 2014 Report Share Posted March 3, 2014 drinking games na abandoned shack in the middle of Georgia during a zombie apocalypse... Sounds like good times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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