Here we go again…..Kevyn

[Pimlach]

3 hours ago, Stads said:

I don't understand why the Bills get every possible advantage from this owner and the Sabres get left behind. Beane does not seem like a yes man like Adams. Why does Terry accept that from him but doesn't want someone with more power for the Sabres? I love the Bills but actually enjoyed the Sabres run in the mid 2000s much more than the current Bills' run

Maybe because McBeane proved themselves to be worthy of little to no supervision.  And Beane is always willing to let Terry hang out at and play with the cool football team. 

On top of all that Terry and Kim mixed in well with the NFL owners and NFL elite, but that is not how the NHL works.    

 

[Stads]

2 hours ago, Pimlach said:

Maybe because McBeane proved themselves to be worthy of little to no supervision.  And Beane is always willing to let Terry hang out at and play with the cool football team. 

On top of all that Terry and Kim mixed in well with the NFL owners and NFL elite, but that is not how the NHL works.    

 

I agree with that about McBeane. Terry messed with all of our heads crying to Gilbert at his opening presser. He bought the Bills and bought himself enough cache to the city. "The goal of the Buffalo Sabres is to not win Stanley Cups but be a staple of my portfolio."

[HumanSlinky39]

This isn't a serious hockey organization. Kev will be back because they'll blame another wasted year on injuries and the Dahlin situation. The only change I can maybe see is if Lindy retires and they promote Appert.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

[Carmel Corn]

39 minutes ago, HumanSlinky39 said:

This isn't a serious hockey organization. Kev will be back because they'll blame another wasted year on injuries and the Dahlin situation. The only change I can maybe see is if Lindy retires and they promote Appert.

Wash. Rinse. Repeat.

Appert already acts like he’s the HC behind the bench.  Maybe Lindy should decide to spare himself the post game presser Q&A heartburn and just have GMKA’s hand picked HC-in-waiting take the questions instead.  

[clink]

20 hours ago, Spoonman said:

I don’t know if anyone feels like I do and I am done with Kevyn. How many shots does a GM get to be successful? 

I will admit that the state of the Sabres over last 1 1/2 DECADES doesn’t help, but 6 years?! 

He is NOT a knowledgeable GM, has hit on a few trades, and lost on many.

I struggle w Pegs (what does Kevyn have on him!?) keeping this ineptitude in his organization. Bills thrive vs Sabres. 
 

What am I missing? WHAT SAY YOU !? 

I was done with Kevyn before he accepted the position 😋

[PromoTheRobot]

6 hours ago, JohnC said:

Why do you think that players are more inclined to say "no thanks" here than with other franchises.

Other than palm trees and taxes, and weather probably?

We are not a good team. But this is what I don't get. Everyone here cheers when the team fails. We root for players to leave. Who said Dahlin is going to give an ultimatum when he gets back? You all deny it, but your posts say otherwise. You say you want the team to be good but you cheer for everything that goes wrong.

[Taro T]

19 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Other than palm trees and taxes, and weather probably?

We are not a good team. But this is what I don't get. Everyone here cheers when the team fails. We root for players to leave. Who said Dahlin is going to give an ultimatum when he gets back? You all deny it, but your posts say otherwise. You say you want the team to be good but you cheer for everything that goes wrong.

To the bolded, that is simply not true.  

[SwampD]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Other than palm trees and taxes, and weather probably?

We are not a good team. But this is what I don't get. Everyone here cheers when the team fails. We root for players to leave. Who said Dahlin is going to give an ultimatum when he gets back? You all deny it, but your posts say otherwise. You say you want the team to be good but you cheer for everything that goes wrong.

Like Taro pointed out, that’s crap. We just don’t celebrate it.

[Believer]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Other than palm trees and taxes, and weather probably?

We are not a good team. But this is what I don't get. Everyone here cheers when the team fails. We root for players to leave. Who said Dahlin is going to give an ultimatum when he gets back? You all deny it, but your posts say otherwise. You say you want the team to be good but you cheer for everything that goes wrong.

Come on, Promo. You know better than that.

We are Buffalo Sabres fans. We are dismayingly loyal to the team despite 13 seasons of no post season play. We bitch and moan because we are committed .

Pegula’s indifference and his dismaying loyalty to Adams, a GM who has failed to roster a team to qualify for the playoffs after five seasons at the helm, and likely will fail again this season, tests our loyalty.

Yet, we persevere precisely because we are Sabres fans.

If You want to pick on anybody, pick on the indifferent owner and the incompetent GM.

[SabresBillsFan]

23 hours ago, Spoonman said:

I don’t know if anyone feels like I do and I am done with Kevyn. How many shots does a GM get to be successful? 

I will admit that the state of the Sabres over last 1 1/2 DECADES doesn’t help, but 6 years?! 

He is NOT a knowledgeable GM, has hit on a few trades, and lost on many.

I struggle w Pegs (what does Kevyn have on him!?) keeping this ineptitude in his organization. Bills thrive vs Sabres. 
 

What am I missing? WHAT SAY YOU !? 

Bills only thrive because they hit on Josh Allen

[GASabresIUFAN]

8 minutes ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Bills only thrive because they hit on Josh Allen

Completely wrong.  It's Beane who built the O line.  It's Beane who drafted Cook, Kincaid, Shakir, Brown, Torrence, Hawes, Benford, Bernard, Rousseau, Bishop, Walker, Hairston among others.  It's Beane who signed Bosa this season and added quality players like Ty Johnson, Shaq Thompson, and others over the years.  Has he made mistakes? Sure, which GM hasn't, but Beane is an excellent GM who continues to keep this team on top.

Edited 8 hours ago by GASabresIUFAN

[Thorny]

10 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

What do you think the Bills get that the Sabres do not? if anything they benefit from Terry's LACK of involvement.

So we are giving up the season already? Beating the Christmas rush?

I’m not giving up on the season but I don’t have to back down from my line of “Adams gets 5 years” once year 6 starts lmao 

[PerreaultForever]

10 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

What are they paying Jarmo for then?

Optics? Honestly I have no idea. We can surmise he might be a potential Kevyn replacement but who really knows from the outside. 

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Completely wrong.  It's Beane who built the O line.  It's Beane who drafted Cook, Kincaid, Shakir, Brown, Torrence, Hawes, Benford, Bernard, Rousseau, Bishop, Walker, Hairston among others.  It's Beane who signed Bosa this season and added quality players like Ty Johnson, Shaq Thompson, and others over the years.  Has he made mistakes? Sure, which GM hasn't, but Beane is an excellent GM who continues to keep this team on top.

I agree with the premise that Terry doesn't meddle in football and hence it's more successful. I've said that repeatedly over the years but I would say the Bills would be a very mediocre middle of the pack team without Josh Allen. 

[Scottysabres]

It’s not Kevyns fault we don’t have palm trees and no state income tax………..

I’ll see myself out……..😂

[Scottysabres]

2 hours ago, SabresBillsFan said:

Bills only thrive because they hit on Josh Allen

Was it hitting on Allen or was the Bills GM just good at his job? Many complain about various positional shortcomings on the Bills roster, wr room depth, defensive zone coverages that have blown key games, but there is no mistaking the Bills are a perennial playoff team. And ya, Allen has everything to do with that. We got hosed on the McDavid sweepstakes, I will always wonder what could have been.

The Sabres just do not have the culture to succeed. The Bills do.

[Ogelthorpe]

3 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Completely wrong.  It's Beane who built the O line.  It's Beane who drafted Cook, Kincaid, Shakir, Brown, Torrence, Hawes, Benford, Bernard, Rousseau, Bishop, Walker, Hairston among others.  It's Beane who signed Bosa this season and added quality players like Ty Johnson, Shaq Thompson, and others over the years.  Has he made mistakes? Sure, which GM hasn't, but Beane is an excellent GM who continues to keep this team on top.

Bills are a 3 or 4 win team w/o Allen. 

[Weave]

I have a thought that Terry pays top dollar to the Bills staff because the Bills print money, but he scrimps on Sabres staff because they don’t have positive cash flow.

[JohnC]

8 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Other than palm trees and taxes, and weather probably?

We are not a good team. But this is what I don't get. Everyone here cheers when the team fails. We root for players to leave. Who said Dahlin is going to give an ultimatum when he gets back? You all deny it, but your posts say otherwise. You say you want the team to be good but you cheer for everything that goes wrong.

The weather has little to do with some of our prime players wanting out. Players don’t want to be stuck in a dysfunctional franchise and every year watching other teams playing in the playoffs. The life span of a pro athlete is relatively short and they don’t want it to waste away.

As far as your claim that many Sabre fans are rooting for the opposition, it is a silly and nonsensical response considering the wretched record during the Pegula era. What you perceive as disloyalty is the frustration associated with this inept franchise. You are blaming the victim when your criticism should be directed at the perpetrator.

[LGR4GM]

Kevyn Adams should be fired, it's that simple. 

[LGR4GM]

Since 2020 Kevyn Adams has used 1 second round pick on a forward. Anton Wahlberg. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

58 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Kevyn Adams should be fired, it's that simple. 

He should have never been hired.  It’s what I said then and nothing has changed.

43 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Since 2020 Kevyn Adams has used 1 second round pick on a forward. Anton Wahlberg. 

You mean besides JJP in 2020 and Poltapov and Kisakov in 2022.  Plus he drafted 7 forwards in the 1st round.  

The real issue is how few of those picks are contributing.  It doesn’t help that the idiot in charge traded away Peterka.  Quinn looks a dud.  Savoie was traded away.  Kulich is injured.  Östlund and Rosen still aren’t full time NHLers.  Kisakov is a bust.  Helenius is in the minors. Poltapov is in Russia and is unlikely to come over.  Benson is the current NHLer who is a proven NHLer but he’s hurt.  
 

This litany of failure is just one of many reasons Howdy Doody should be fired.

Edited 35 minutes ago by GASabresIUFAN

[Pimlach]

10 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Other than palm trees and taxes, and weather probably?

We are not a good team. But this is what I don't get. Everyone here cheers when the team fails. We root for players to leave. Who said Dahlin is going to give an ultimatum when he gets back? You all deny it, but your posts say otherwise. You say you want the team to be good but you cheer for everything that goes wrong.

“EVERYONE HERE” does not do this nonsense.  Some people, sometimes will say some things that support your claim.   

You have an unusual desire to act as a voice of reason, a mediator between the team and the fans.  Unfortunately, your excuses for this team (including Pegula and Adams) often come off as a way to satisfy your own need to argue and poke others.   

I’m pretty sure most people here think that Terry is a nice guy that wants to do better.  But the past 15 year performance of this team cannot be defended, and palm trees, taxes, and weather have nothing to do with it.   

Terry makes bad decisions because he is over his head and he can’t or won’t find the right help.  

Edited 15 minutes ago by Pimlach

[LGR4GM]

36 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

He should have never been hired.  It’s what I said then and nothing has changed.

You mean besides JJP in 2020 and Poltapov and Kisakov in 2022.  Plus he drafted 7 forwards in the 1st round.  

The real issue is how few of those picks are contributing.  It doesn’t help that the idiot in charge traded away Peterka.  Quinn looks a dud.  Savoie was traded away.  Kulich is injured.  Östlund and Rosen still aren’t full time NHLers.  Kisakov is a bust.  Helenius is in the minors. Poltapov is in Russia and is unlikely to come over.  Benson is the current NHLer who is a proven NHLer but he’s hurt.  
 

This litany of failure is just one of many reasons Howdy Doody should be fired.

I meant since jjp getting picked. Kisakov is gone and Poltapov isn't coming. I should have clarified that. 

6 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

“EVERYONE HERE” does not do this nonsense.  Some people, sometimes will say some things that support your claim.   

You have an unusual desire to act as a voice of reason, a mediator between the team and the fans.  Unfortunately, your excuses for this team (including Pegula and Adams) often come off as a way to satisfy your own need to argue and poke others.   

I’m pretty sure most people here think that Terry is a nice guy that wants to do better.  But the past 15 year performance of this team cannot be defended, and palm trees, taxes, and weather have nothing to do with it.   

Terry makes bad decisions because he is over his head and he can’t or won’t find the right help.  

I keep wondering if someone he knows is connected to the team. Only reason to constantly go after ppl for rightfully pointing out the teams failures, such as their bad drafting.