Alex Tuch contract talks

[nucci]

22 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

I highly doubt that is the case; even if he hates how the Sabres have been of late he most certainly still would likely have an underlying desire to stay here.

Maybe but if the Sabres want to sign him and Tuch wants to sign with the Sabres, seems like it wouldn't be too difficult to agree on a contract.

[Demoted]

23 hours ago, Thorny said:

Given the recent history of the franchise I struggle with the breakdown that only leaves room for beneficial outcomes 

If I had to guess it more so looks like a case where we will lose a player we want unless we make the playoffs 

...and that player goes on to win the Cup.

[thewookie1]

16 minutes ago, nucci said:

Maybe but if the Sabres want to sign him and Tuch wants to sign with the Sabres, seems like it wouldn't be too difficult to agree on a contract.

Money

[That Aud Smell]

4 hours ago, darksabre said:

I guess. I'm not sure I care that he has some local connection. It's not like he's a superstar like Tim Connolly was/could have been.

He's more Donald Audette. Which is... fine. 

He might feel like Audette-value to you?

But those are extremely different players.

[oddoublee]

4 hours ago, mjd1001 said:

I think Tuch is a step above Donald Audette. He is a winger than two of the past 3 years has scored between 35 and 40 goals. He led the league in short-handed goals last year. He has been the best forward in plus minus on the team... Deep into the positive territory on a team that has been negative. He's one of the best forcheckers in the league. 

Right now today, Tuch is one of the best all-around, every situation, top six wingers in the league, that can do pretty much everything and play in any position for any team. Hes not a game changer but he's just a half step below that category for a winger.

The problem is right now he's at his peak. You have him this year in that peak year no matter what happens. Next year you might get 95 to 98% of what he has to offer now as he enters his early thirties. The year after that it might be 90 to 95%. After that, who knows how quick the decline will be. 

That's why I have doubts about extending him. You'd love him for two more years, you have him for one. Once you get into 3 and 4 years out, I have no idea what he's going to be but I'm confident he won't be exactly what he is now.

Tuch > Audette.    And I loved Audettes value to the team he played for

[Brawndo]

I would take this with a huge grain of salt, but 11 million dollars is too much

At this point it, the best path forward maybe trading him. 
 

Retain 50%, yes I know who the owner is, and see what happens. 
 

I would also make sure all suitors have Jarmo’s Cell as he is making the trade. 

[mjd1001]

38 minutes ago, Brawndo said:

I would take this with a huge grain of salt, but 11 million dollars is too much

At this point it, the best path forward maybe trading him. 
 

Retain 50%, yes I know who the owner is, and see what happens. 
 

I would also make sure all suitors have Jarmo’s Cell as he is making the trade. 

I agree.  I know the cap is going up, but as much as in an earlier post I said how good he is, he's on of the top wingers in the league...I have no interest in paying him anywhere close to $11m per year when he is going to be in his 30's to START the extension.

Maybe, MAYBE if it was a 4 year extension, but even then...steep price for what I he is likely to be in a couple years.

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, Brawndo said:

I would take this with a huge grain of salt, but 11 million dollars is too much

At this point it, the best path forward maybe trading him. 
 

Retain 50%, yes I know who the owner is, and see what happens. 
 

I would also make sure all suitors have Jarmo’s Cell as he is making the trade. 

11 million x 5yrs maybe. But that's an overpay,  Adams specialty

[DarthEbriate]

He could almost buy his own ship for that.

[sabremike]

1 hour ago, mjd1001 said:

I agree.  I know the cap is going up, but as much as in an earlier post I said how good he is, he's on of the top wingers in the league...I have no interest in paying him anywhere close to $11m per year when he is going to be in his 30's to START the extension.

Maybe, MAYBE if it was a 4 year extension, but even then...steep price for what I he is likely to be in a couple years.

I'll put it to you like this: The Sabres could offer another team Dahlin, Tage and their unprotected first for a comparable vet from another team and the trade doesn't happen because the guy uses his NTC to block it. Tuch would basically be impossible to replace.

[Porous Five Hole]

3 hours ago, Brawndo said:

I would take this with a huge grain of salt, but 11 million dollars is too much

At this point it, the best path forward maybe trading him. 
 

Retain 50%, yes I know who the owner is, and see what happens. 
 

I would also make sure all suitors have Jarmo’s Cell as he is making the trade. 

We are at game four and talking like this trade will be a known formality is bonkers.  It’s podcast fodder that we should not be paying attention to.  Hence your grain of salt comment with any of it.  
 

BUT, let’s entertain the idea.
If a trade, retaining 50% makes a lot of sense.  It means an acquiring team only needs to fit 2.375MM onto their cap making Tuch literally the most premium deadline add in the league.  The haul would be enormous.  
 

I’m not fond of kicking off the Jarmo era with trading a very useful player who grew up a Sabres fan.  It’s the exact opposite of what I would do. But if Tuch will not accept 10MM X 6, I totally get it.