To everyone clamoring for the Sabres to trade the pick

[inkman]

What exactly do you think the Sabres can get for 9th overall in a weak draft class?  

[dudacek]

Matt Savoie.

[PromoTheRobot]

1 minute ago, inkman said:

What exactly do you think the Sabres can get for 9th overall in a weak draft class?  

I was under the impression that if someone offers you a trade you have to accept it. Am I wrong? 🤔

[Thorny]

13 minutes ago, inkman said:

What exactly do you think the Sabres can get for 9th overall in a weak draft class?  

McLeod 

[Scottysabres]

Yes, trade the dam pick.

[LGR4GM]

15 minutes ago, inkman said:

What exactly do you think the Sabres can get for 9th overall in a weak draft class?  

What if, and stay with me, we put the pick in a package with other assets. Ik ik Adams isn't good enough for that but we can dream. 

[Stads]

16 minutes ago, inkman said:

What exactly do you think the Sabres can get for 9th overall in a weak draft class?  

A player that could be contribute next year rather than one who might in 3-5 years

[inkman]

10 minutes ago, Thorny said:

McLeod 

I’m guessing that’s a little less than what most fans are thinking 

[Taro T]

4 minutes ago, inkman said:

I’m guessing that’s a little less than what most fans are thinking 

Personally expect that's a little bit more than most fans are thinking.

[Thorny]

6 minutes ago, inkman said:

I’m guessing that’s a little less than what most fans are thinking 

Too bad 

Would be a great trade 

[Wyldnwoody44]

Keep the pick, trade the GM 

[GASabresIUFAN]

53 minutes ago, dudacek said:

Matt Savoie.

At least he’s close to NHL ready.

[inkman]

 

[GASabresIUFAN]

4 hours ago, inkman said:

What exactly do you think the Sabres can get for 9th overall in a weak draft class?  

Because we need change.  We can't just keep doing what we have been doing and expect a different result.  Any player we draft 9th isn't making an impact in the NHL for at least 2-3 years.  That's a useless asset as far as I'm concerned.  Find a cap strapped team with a crappy talent pool and trade them the 9th pick for an NHL player that helps us make the Sabres better.  If they 9th pick isn't enough to get the right player, than add other assets, but get something done. 

[PerreaultForever]

6 hours ago, inkman said:

What exactly do you think the Sabres can get for 9th overall in a weak draft class?  

Pick #9, Quinn and Samuelsson or Clifton for a proper top 4 D man. How about that? (the Clifton/Samuelsson part is to shed salary to help pay Byram and that top 4 D man long term) for example. 

As above, it has to be a package.

 

[SabreFinn]

I think it could be wise to keep the pick and in 3-4 years have a player on a cheap contract to hopefully  put in the line-up. We have plenty of other assets to trade, like Rosen for example, that will never be roster players for Sabres but might be one on another team.

[sabremike]

The idea our "reward" for the single most catastrophic failure of a season in team history is likely a AAAA "not an AHL player but not an NHL player either" guy is just beyond depressing. 

[steveoath]

“Hi Islanders….. pick no9 and one of Quinn Samuelson or byram for Dobson?”

[LGR4GM]

1 hour ago, steveoath said:

“Hi Islanders….. pick no9 and one of Quinn Samuelson or byram for Dobson?”

I'd make the trade bigger. Get Dobson and Barzal. 

Edit: if the islanders want to rebuild. 

Edited 4 hours ago by LGR4GM

[inkman]

11 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

What if, and stay with me, we put the pick in a package with other assets. Ik ik Adams isn't good enough for that but we can dream. 

That’s not just trading the pick.  That’s upgrading the roster.  I don’t equate trade draft pick = instant good player on the roster.  If people want the Sabres to upgrade the roster, great but it’s going to take a heck of a lot more than # 9 overall to get it done. Which no one, other than you, bother to mention. 

8 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Because we need change.  We can't just keep doing what we have been doing and expect a different result.  Any player we draft 9th isn't making an impact in the NHL for at least 2-3 years.  That's a useless asset as far as I'm concerned.  Find a cap strapped team with a crappy talent pool and trade them the 9th pick for an NHL player that helps us make the Sabres better.  If they 9th pick isn't enough to get the right player, than add other assets, but get something done. 

You answered a whole bunch of questions I never asked. 

[JP51]

9 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Because we need change.  We can't just keep doing what we have been doing and expect a different result.  Any player we draft 9th isn't making an impact in the NHL for at least 2-3 years.  That's a useless asset as far as I'm concerned.  Find a cap strapped team with a crappy talent pool and trade them the 9th pick for an NHL player that helps us make the Sabres better.  If they 9th pick isn't enough to get the right player, than add other assets, but get something done. 

I dont disagree... but now that they are keeping Adams it looks like they are going to continue to do what they are doing.... and expect a change... and I feel like we are that cash strapped target you think of... cause I agree with you 100% but what you say makes sense... therefor I have not illusions that this will happen.... Adams will either use the pick on a player that might help us in 3 years... or get fleeced on a trade to get a middling player that will actually agree to come to this cesspool of an organization. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, inkman said:

That’s not just trading the pick.  That’s upgrading the roster.  I don’t equate trade draft pick = instant good player on the roster.  If people want the Sabres to upgrade the roster, great but it’s going to take a heck of a lot more than # 9 overall to get it done. Which no one, other than you, bother to mention. 

You answered a whole bunch of questions I never asked. 

Your question was too limiting.  No one knows what the value of the pick is until you see what the offers are.  However, the Sabres need to re-think how they do everything and that includes piling up picks and prospects like cord wood.   Adams traded former 9th overall pick Matt Savoie for McLeod and McLeod turned out to be a solid two way middle six center with more offensive upside than he was given credit for.  If we can get a middle six center for a former 9th pick, is it to far our of the realm of possibility that we could get a solid stay at home D to pair with Power?

[Drag0nDan]

14 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

What if, and stay with me, we put the pick in a package with other assets. Ik ik Adams isn't good enough for that but we can dream. 

#9, JJP , rosen out -> Jason robertson in -- Might also try and see about swinging Dumba or Lundkvist if they're still looking for RHD.  

Or swap JJP and tuch.  Or benson or Östlund.  In any case - trying to make a move for robertson is the biggest move i can see out there with a player who has no clause, and a team that is in a cap crunch.  He's likely to get 11-12M AAV on a new deal after next season and I'm not sure they can keep him.  

https://puckpedia.com/team/dallas-stars

Seguin @ 9.85, Hintz @ 8.45, Rantanen @ 12 - thats about 30M in cap space.  Add in Johnston @ 8.4.  Heiskanen and Lindell.  Harley will need to get paid.  Oettinger's salary goes up as well.

Edited 1 hour ago by Drag0nDan

[Jorcus]

The bigger question is who are you replacing on the roster? It's fine to trade picks but NHL rosters are very limiting in movement so you have to get rid of people if you go that route. Some candidates a easy targets. Quinn is probably at the top, Sammy is on a lot of peoples list. But beyond that if you want vets who are you replacing in the top 6? The youngest candidates are Kulich and Benson. They are not untouchable but I can just see the the angst now if Benson gets traded for a vet. Peterka would be the next candidate or McLeod. Thompson, Tuch, Zucker, Norris and Greenway are most likely not going anywhere because of age or the new contracts. The other guys are 4th liners except maybe Krebs. 

We have a lot of assets but roster players have to go. Once you get by the 1st one or 2 the questions about who get tougher.  

[WhenWillItEnd66]

In a weak draft with a relatively stacked farm team, there is ZERO reason to be drafting at #9. The pick is still worth something, even in a package deal. A somewhat weaker prospect does ZERO  to help this team. Will it happen? Not with KA. As with most of the rest of us, i have no confidence that he can build a NHL playoff team. Could that change? Yes but it has not under his regime.