LGR4GM Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 He did not bet on hockey from what I have read. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 And there it is. Probably much more wide spread 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) Well damn...that escalated quickly. If he keeps it up he is going to be driving a Pinto...1978 style. Edited October 26, 2023 by matter2003 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterExpat Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 Quote "The National Hockey League announced today that it has suspended NHL Player Shane Pinto for 41 games for activities relating to sports wagering. The League’s investigation found no evidence that Pinto made any wagers on NHL games," the statement reads. "The NHL considers this matter closed, absent the emergence of new information, and will have no further comment." He gets 41 games for betting on other sports. Can someone explain to me how that's justified? Is it simply a case of him being involved in some kind of low-level mob-type bookie? If he were doing this on the OFFICIAL BETTING SITE OF THE OTTAWA SENATORS, would he be punished? There has got to be way more to this story. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 But the NHL hands out three games for ending people’s careers…. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 minute ago, RochesterExpat said: He gets 41 games for betting on other sports. Can someone explain to me how that's justified? Is it simply a case of him being involved in some kind of low-level mob-type bookie? If he were doing this on the OFFICIAL BETTING SITE OF THE OTTAWA SENATORS, would he be punished? There has got to be way more to this story. Has to be. The same NHL that has betting ads in game and on arena board ads. There has to be more to the story. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 minute ago, RochesterExpat said: He gets 41 games for betting on other sports. Can someone explain to me how that's justified? Is it simply a case of him being involved in some kind of low-level mob-type bookie? If he were doing this on the OFFICIAL BETTING SITE OF THE OTTAWA SENATORS, would he be punished? There has got to be way more to this story. From the article, it seems the issue isn't so much that he was betting on other sports but that he was a "third party bettor," in other words he's placing bets with a bookie. And the issue there being that if he ends up losing Vanek levels of cash he might end up needing to try to "fix" a game or 2 to get out from under his debt. This'll end up costing him at least $1MM. (He reportedly was close to signing a $2.2MM contract with the Sens before this came to light.) Hopefully this'll keep other players playing by the league's imposed rules, but expecting there'll be a few more getting suspended each year. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 Is this investigation why he is still an RFA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 Just now, GASabresIUFAN said: Is this investigation why he is still an RFA? Per the article, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MBD Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 17 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Well damn...that escalated quickly. If he keeps it up he is going to be driving a Pinto...1978 style. And eating Pinto beans. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Also already stated in the article linked to the Seravalli tweet. (Not taking issue with you or your post; just trying to avoid Garrioch getting clicks. #### that fat ####.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pastajoe Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 Never understood why it’s wrong for players to bet. As long as they don’t bet against their own team it shouldn’t be an issue. If a league thinks it’s an addiction they should treat it the same as alcohol or drugs and provide counseling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 Remind me, what is the sponsor on the sens helmets?? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterExpat Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, steveoath said: Remind me, what is the sponsor on the sens helmets?? I'd be willing to bet someone here will google it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, pastajoe said: Never understood why it’s wrong for players to bet. As long as they don’t bet against their own team it shouldn’t be an issue. If a league thinks it’s an addiction they should treat it the same as alcohol or drugs and provide counseling. 2 reasons (the 1st of which is pretty much moot now that ALL leagues and teams are in bet with "legit" gambling groups): 1. The leagues don't want to give the appearance that games aren't on the up and up. If players or refs are gambling, questions can get raised about just how "clean" the game actually is. And 2. If the players are going through bookies to place their bets, there is concern that the bookie might coerce the player into "throwing" a game to get out of excessive debts (should they arise). And that 2nd concern looks to be the reason Pinto got suspended and suspended with a Tom Lysiak style suspension. The league wanted to send a message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 3 minutes ago, RochesterExpat said: I'd be willing to bet someone here will google it. I was being flippant. It’s bet99 Bit of a double standard from the NHL. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 A league partner ratting on activity on another betting service? Hmmmm….. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 Interesting how the league releases just after we beat them. Like, "ya, Buffalo won, but it was probably fixed somehow" Or something. That's a joke so don't tell he didn't play the other night 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmel Corn Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 Is this the guy the Sens were trying to get back on the roster, but lacked the cap space to do so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 41 minutes ago, pastajoe said: Never understood why it’s wrong for players to bet. As long as they don’t bet against their own team it shouldn’t be an issue. If a league thinks it’s an addiction they should treat it the same as alcohol or drugs and provide counseling. Probably because it's all too easy to walk down that slippery slope one day even if it's only on a whim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 hour ago, matter2003 said: Well damn...that escalated quickly. If he keeps it up he is going to be driving a Pinto...1978 style. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterExpat Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 32 minutes ago, steveoath said: I was being flippant. It’s bet99 Yeah, I know. That's why I made the joke about betting someone would google it. It just fell flat 😞 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 1 hour ago, Taro T said: 2 reasons (the 1st of which is pretty much moot now that ALL leagues and teams are in bet with "legit" gambling groups): I see what you did there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 26, 2023 Report Share Posted October 26, 2023 5 minutes ago, MattPie said: I see what you did there. Wish it weren't a typo. That actually was pretty good. (Had it been intentional.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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