Marvin Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, tom webster said: How many really good players have walked in free agency? To name 4: Briere, Drury, McKee, and Grier. 2 years or 8 years. IMHO, anything which has Power becoming a UFA at 26 is ridiculously short-sighted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) An 8 year deal only eats 2 ufa years no? I kind of like the way this Dahlin situation is working out if he signs for 8 years now. 3 year bridge and then 8 year deal. We’re only projected to pay maybe $2 mil more per season (10 vs 6) and get to eat a bunch more ufa years. What’s the risk of going 3 years now with Owen and then 8 after that similar to Dahlin? Do we feel the cap is going to skyrocket and that’s the concern cine extension in 3 years? The bridge and then long term deal would give us essentially 12 years of Owen rather than 9. Edited June 18, 2023 by Derrico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, Derrico said: An 8 year deal only eats 2 ufa years no? I kind of like the way this Dahlin situation is working out if he signs for 8 years now. 3 year bridge and then 8 year deal. We’re only projected to pay maybe $2 mil more per season (10 vs 6) and get to eat a bunch more ufa years. What’s the risk of going 3 years now with Owen and then 8 after that similar to Dahlin? Do we feel the cap is going to skyrocket and that’s the concern cine extension in 3 years? The bridge and then long term deal would give us essentially 12 years of Owen rather than 9. The risk is the contract he would likely require post bridge. While Power could be signed now for 7-8 mil on a long term deal, if we wait 3 years on a bridge, that could jump to 11 if he develops how we want him to. That money could cost us an important player during those 9 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 18 hours ago, K-9 said: That’s really up to Power and what he prefers to do. Might be smarter for him to take a bridge in favor of a monster deal later on when the cap is higher as well. I get that. My Angry NS comment was if the Sabres CHOOSE to bridge. I should have been more specific, but I think that many caught my drift. Of course, we will likely never know who initiated a bridge deal. I will go by KA's pattern lately of signing core players, I include Power in the core now as I did in the core 5 thread, to long-term deals. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Marvin said: To name 4: Briere, Drury, McKee, and Grier. 2 years or 8 years. IMHO, anything which has Power becoming a UFA at 26 is ridiculously short-sighted. McKee and Grier were hockey decisions. Dumont as well. All BAD hockey decisions but hockey decisions nonetheless 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 6 hours ago, Cascade Youth said: If you count the players who have made it clear in their walk year that they weren’t going to re-sign and were then traded at the deadline, I think lots. I disagree. I think you’d be hard pressed to find more then five top line forwards or top pair defenseman they changed teams due to contract negotiations in the last five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, Derrico said: An 8 year deal only eats 2 ufa years no? I kind of like the way this Dahlin situation is working out if he signs for 8 years now. 3 year bridge and then 8 year deal. We’re only projected to pay maybe $2 mil more per season (10 vs 6) and get to eat a bunch more ufa years. What’s the risk of going 3 years now with Owen and then 8 after that similar to Dahlin? Do we feel the cap is going to skyrocket and that’s the concern cine extension in 3 years? The bridge and then long term deal would give us essentially 12 years of Owen rather than 9. For my part I just care more about maxing our cap value over the next 5-7 seasons (3-7, specifically, when it’ll get way tighter) than I do about years 15-20 of our 30 year impending dynasty im not that fussed about protecting that year 12 of Power you mentioned until I see what we amount to in the...decade proceeding it. We seem to be protecting something we haven’t even built yet, protecting an idea Edited June 18, 2023 by Thorny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, tom webster said: McKee and Grier were hockey decisions. Dumont as well. All BAD hockey decisions but hockey decisions nonetheless I believe we kept Kotalík over Dumont if I'm not correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascade Youth Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, tom webster said: I disagree. I think you’d be hard pressed to find more then five top line forwards or top pair defenseman they changed teams due to contract negotiations in the last five years. I mean just in the last year alone, Matthew Tkachuk, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 10 minutes ago, Cascade Youth said: I mean just in the last year alone, Matthew Tkachuk, no? Huberdeau too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom webster Posted June 18, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Cascade Youth said: I mean just in the last year alone, Matthew Tkachuk, no? There is one. 2 hours ago, Buffalonill said: I believe we kept Kotalík over Dumont if I'm not correct. Yes, terrible decision. 2 hours ago, kas23 said: Huberdeau too. Huberdeau wanted to stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Buffalonill said: I believe we kept Kotalík over Dumont if I'm not correct. Yep. They (for whatever reason) made their decisions on how to proceed based upon the order of getting the arbitration decision. By the time Dumont's rolled around, there was nothing left in the kitty. Would be really interested in hearing from Regier at some point WHY they decided to make their decisions in that order. Was it they really saw those guys as interchangable in value to the team; were they trying to not show favoritism to certain player/players to keep from upsetting the chemistry in the room; or was it something other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Taro T said: Yep. They (for whatever reason) made their decisions on how to proceed based upon the order of getting the arbitration decision. By the time Dumont's rolled around, there was nothing left in the kitty. Would be really interested in hearing from Regier at some point WHY they decided to make their decisions in that order. Was it they really saw those guys as interchangable in value to the team; were they trying to not show favoritism to certain player/players to keep from upsetting the chemistry in the room; or was it something other? I think, and I believe I have seen from credible sources (don't remember for sure though), that Quinn was heavily involved in the decisions of whom to re-sign and at what price in the debacle offseasons of 2006, 2007 and a couple of years thereafter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted June 18, 2023 Report Share Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, nfreeman said: I think, and I believe I have seen from credible sources (don't remember for sure though), that Quinn was heavily involved in the decisions of whom to re-sign and at what price in the debacle offseasons of 2006, 2007 and a couple of years thereafter. I hated that man for destroying everything the Sabres built they would have won at least 1 cup if it wasn't For that weasel Edited June 18, 2023 by Buffalonill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvin Posted June 19, 2023 Report Share Posted June 19, 2023 2 hours ago, nfreeman said: I think, and I believe I have seen from credible sources (don't remember for sure though), that Quinn was heavily involved in the decisions of whom to re-sign and at what price in the debacle offseasons of 2006, 2007 and a couple of years thereafter. I might have the same sources that you do because I have heard the same thing. 2 hours ago, Buffalonill said: I hated that man for destroying everything the Sabres built they would have won at least 1 cup if it wasn't For that weasel That team may never get close (in Buffalo, anyway) if Quinn did not push for the Chris Drury trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nfreeman Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 I don't think this will happen today, but I think it will happen in the next week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Welp i can't believe this hasn't been announced. Maybe it's not even close to being done :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Welp i can't believe this hasn't been announced. Maybe it's not even close to being done 😕 There is no rush for this to happen. He could not sign an extension until after July 1st. Everybody, well you seem to be the only one panicing, needs to stay calm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Welp i can't believe this hasn't been announced. Maybe it's not even close to being done 😕 It’s done. It’s going to drop when fan anxiety over lack of a big move hits its peak, which, judging from what I’ve read here this morning might be coming soon. Edited July 3, 2023 by dudacek 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 19 minutes ago, Buffalonill said: Welp i can't believe this hasn't been announced. Maybe it's not even close to being done 😕 Tom webster said elsewhere that it's done and they are waiting to announce it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 Dahlin is literally signed for a full other season. This is like when ppl lost their minds because Levi went back to college. It is a none issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kas23 Posted July 3, 2023 Report Share Posted July 3, 2023 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Dahlin is literally signed for a full other season. This is like when ppl lost their minds because Levi went back to college. It is a none issue. Wait, Levi’s going back to college? OMG! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos1963 Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 On 6/18/2023 at 5:11 PM, Marvin said: I might have the same sources that you do because I have heard the same thing. That team may never get close (in Buffalo, anyway) if Quinn did not push for the Chris Drury trade. Wouldn't have got close with Nolan instead of Ruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted July 4, 2023 Report Share Posted July 4, 2023 23 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: Tom webster said elsewhere that it's done and they are waiting to announce it Wonder what they're waiting for lol 4th of July special ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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