Doohickie Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 hours ago, calti said: Mitts?? People still hoping on that one? Not sure how they all sort out but yeah, I think Mitts is our 1C for now and possible 1C/2C going forward. He was doing very well when he got hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Digger said: Next season I can see Krebs at LW with Cozens at C and Tuch on RW. I see that trio having some potential chemistry. Very quick skating line that will be fun to watch once Krebs and Cozens reach their potential. Lots of options next season though with Quinn and Peterka in the mix. That could very well be a line next year, but unless there are 2 lines ahead of it, it is going to struggle. The next couple of years, that line could be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 39 minutes ago, Taro T said: That could very well be a line next year, but unless there are 2 lines ahead of it, it is going to struggle. The next couple of years, that line could be interesting. There will be. The Mitts line and the Thompson line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 Skinner Mittelstadt Tuch Olofsson Thompson Asplund Krebs Cozens Girgensons Okposo Samuelsson Dahlin Power Jokiharju Bryson Acquire a starting goalie, a defensively strong RHD and a defensively strong 3C Let R2, Quinn, Peterka, Fitzpatrick, Johnson and our 1st pick challenge some JAGs for the open roster spots. Next year could be fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 Looking forward to a team with no JAGs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Zamboni said: Krebs developing to be a faster skating Reinhart would be delicious. For a few reasons. Having another player not afraid to get into the dirty areas in front of the net and be an incredible passer. Yes please! Not to mention to grind the gears of some fans. Muhahaha …. 😂 Even if there is a stylistic similarity in any way, there simply is no comparison because from what I've seen and understand Krebs is a leader and he gives maximum effort most, if not all, the time. and THAT was not Samson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 hours ago, Digger said: Next season I can see Krebs at LW with Cozens at C and Tuch on RW. I see that trio having some potential chemistry. Very quick skating line that will be fun to watch once Krebs and Cozens reach their potential. Lots of options next season though with Quinn and Peterka in the mix. idk where Tuch will end up but, assuming his game keeps evolving the way it seemed to be before the injury I would like to see Tuch with Mitts to start and see if that works. Playmaker plus power forward with more grit is a good combination. But that depends on what Mitts is when he returns. There are no guarantees on that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zamboni Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said: Even if there is a stylistic similarity in any way, there simply is no comparison because from what I've seen and understand Krebs is a leader and he gives maximum effort most, if not all, the time. and THAT was not Samson. Your act is boring. Wrong as usual yawn Edited November 10, 2021 by Zamboni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalonill Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 People don't think Krebs is a future number 1 center ? I'll disagree with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Zamboni said: Your act is boring. Wrong as usual yawn Oh yes, he was a great leader, that's why all the GMs signed him long term and that's why we won so many games with him. Carry on yawning.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doohickie Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 So okay, we're looking at analytics now, but it seems so many players are being brought in for off-ice characteristics as well as for on-ice performance. Is this a case of looking at the analytics and then trying to cherry pick players out of the top echelon for "intangibles" and then acquiring them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 7 hours ago, Buffalonill said: People don't think Krebs is a future number 1 center ? I'll disagree with that He’s only a number one centre in the way Chris Drury and Mike Peca were number one centres. I have no idea if Peca is a good coach, but the concept of him mentoring Krebs is exciting. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, The Ghost of Yuri said: So okay, we're looking at analytics now, but it seems so many players are being brought in for off-ice characteristics as well as for on-ice performance. Is this a case of looking at the analytics and then trying to cherry pick players out of the top echelon for "intangibles" and then acquiring them? Yes, they want to target good players with good character. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 I guess it's the depth of knowledge, coupled with the analytics, that I find interesting. It's not just what their stats are, not just their past teams, it's what their roles were on those teams. It's who they grew up rooting for. With Krebs and Tuch, their talent/performance is notable, but what really makes that good candidates for this team is their backstories. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, The Ghost of Yuri said: I guess it's the depth of knowledge, coupled with the analytics, that I find interesting. It's not just what their stats are, not just their past teams, it's what their roles were on those teams. It's who they grew up rooting for. With Krebs and Tuch, their talent/performance is notable, but what really makes that good candidates for this team is their backstories. It’s almost like the current front office believes that both analytics AND culture are important. Imagine that! 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 To be honest, before I started to post on SabreSpace, I never would have realized there was so much subtlety in building a team. Just get all the good players you can, fill in the rest with what's available, and play on. Make a few trades to get a Briere or a Drury once in while. I guess I was spoiled by Darcy and it took XGMTM and JBot to give me an appreciation for how complicated the position of GM really is. It appears that Kevyn Adams is doing a good job of integrating all the data available to build the team, hopefully the right way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, dudacek said: He’s only a number one centre in the way Chris Drury and Mike Peca were number one centres. I have no idea if Peca is a good coach, but the concept of him mentoring Krebs is exciting. I mean, hopefully, right? His actual on ice game does remind me more of Briere though, as others have said. Cozens I see a little of both, too. Ideally the two of them somehow amount to a combined decent representation of the two, in our top two C roles, one day 26 minutes ago, Flashsabre said: Yes, they want to target good players with good character. Doesn't every team? I think Adams is trying to target what one might call.. "good" players. No one wants slow moving, lackadaisical workers with little talent and a bad rep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, The Ghost of Yuri said: To be honest, before I started to post on SabreSpace, I never would have realized there was so much subtlety in building a team. Just get all the good players you can, fill in the rest with what's available, and play on. Make a few trades to get a Briere or a Drury once in while. I guess I was spoiled by Darcy and it took XGMTM and JBot to give me an appreciation for how complicated the position of GM really is. It appears that Kevyn Adams is doing a good job of integrating all the data available to build the team, hopefully the right way. They've never actually succeeded at the "get all the good players thing" though lol Marcus Johansson and Eric Staal didn't fail because they weren't the right type of man. They weren't actually 2Cs! This is the first year, with a healthy Mittelstadt and a hypothetical Eichel here we may have actually had 2 real top 6 Cs, since...maybe the end of Eichel's ELC when ROR was still here but even then, Eichel wasn't yet "Eichel". We may need to go back further. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, Thorny said: I mean, hopefully, right? His actual on ice game does remind me more of Briere though, as others have said. Cozens I see a little of both, too. Ideally the two of them somehow amount to a combined decent representation of the two, in our top two C roles, one day Doesn't every team? I think Adams is trying to target what one might call.. "good" players. No one wants slow moving, lackadaisical workers with little talent and a bad rep. The key is not to pick talented headcases, the Anthony DeAngelos, Evander Kanes of the world. Regardless of talent, they tear rooms a part. Focus on talented players that will fit well in the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Flashsabre said: The key is not to pick talented headcases, the Anthony DeAngelos, Evander Kanes of the world. Regardless of talent, they tear rooms a part. Focus on talented players that will fit well in the room. Makes sense, it's why a lot comes down to execution, like you alluded to - they gotta get the assessments right. I actually am fairly optimistic in Adams' ability in this regard, identifying that character. My worry more so stems from the fact, I think a lot of the "bad attitude" stuff actually develops, rather than being present from the beginning. I hope Adams is aware of the likelihood of this happening with some of his Blinding Light Brigade through the accumulation of losses. Next year they should be talking about winning, not development. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thorny said: Makes sense, it's why a lot comes down to execution, like you alluded to - they gotta get the assessments right. I actually am fairly optimistic in Adams' ability in this regard, identifying that character. My worry more so stems from the fact, I think a lot of the "bad attitude" stuff actually develops, rather than being present from the beginning. I hope Adams is aware of the likelihood of this happening with some of his Blinding Light Brigade through the accumulation of losses. Next year they should be talking about winning, not development. Bringing in some competent goalies under age forty ought to be tops on the to do list for next year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Dr. Who said: Bringing in some competent goalies under age forty ought to be tops on the to do list for next year. The next good NHL goalie Adams adds will be his first 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 42 minutes ago, Thorny said: I mean, hopefully, right? His actual on ice game does remind me more of Briere though, as others have said. Cozens I see a little of both, too. Ideally the two of them somehow amount to a combined decent representation of the two, in our top two C roles, one day I see the tenacity of Briere, but Danny was like prime Skinner around the net — just absolutely hungry to score. Krebs may never score 20 in a season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 10, 2021 Report Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) I just saw that Krebs has 5 assists in 3 games. I so want to send Cozens down to play with him. I'd love for Quinn, Cozens, Krebs and JJP to develop together down in Rochester this season and then come up together next year and kind of give us the shot in the arm the Roy, Miller, Pominville, Vanek group did. Edited November 10, 2021 by GASabresIUFAN 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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