LGR4GM Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 revealed at the presser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) All time Sabres 26s, where will Dahlin fall, in terms of greatness, on this list after this year? Larry Keenan 1971 Randy Wyrozub 1972 Derek Smith 1976 Alex Tidey 1977-1978 Ken Breitenbach 1979 Steve Patrick 1981-1985 Val James 1982 Mal Davis 1984 Dave Maloney 1985 Phil Russell 1986-1987 Pat Hughes 1986 Robert Logan 1987-1988 Richie Dunn 1989 Darrin Shannon 1989 Dean Kennedy 1990-1991 Keith Carney 1992 Derek Plante 1994-1999 Eric Boulton 2001-2004 Thomas Vanek 2006-2014 Matt Moulson 2014-2017 Edited June 25, 2018 by sabills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 All time 26s, where will Dahlin fall on this list after this year? Larry Keenan 1971 Randy Wyrozub 1972 Derek Smith 1976 Alex Tidey 1977-1978 Ken Breitenbach 1979 Steve Patrick 1981-1985 Val James 1982 Mal Davis 1984 Dave Maloney 1985 Phil Russell 1986-1987 Pat Hughes 1986 Robert Logan 1987-1988 Richie Dunn 1989 Darrin Shannon 1989 Dean Kennedy 1990-1991 Keith Carney 1992 Derek Plante 1994-1999 Eric Boulton 2001-2004 Thomas Vanek 2006-2014Matt Moulson 2014-2017 #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 #1 #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 It's a good number. There isn't another notable (all-time great) Sabre with that number so he can make it his own. The only one that looks close to me is Vanek but I don't see him as a someone you'd put on an all-time Sabres roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 It's a good number. There isn't another notable (all-time great) Sabre with that number so he can make it his own. The only one that looks close to me is Vanek but I don't see him as a someone you'd put on an all-time Sabres roster. IDK, if you do four lines I think he makes it as a LW. A quick look at one site and I see Martin, Satan, and Andreychuk as clearly ahead of him. Am I missing anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Awesome.His dad's calves hint at rivaling inkman's. (Inkman is the guy whose calves we joke about right?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Awesome. His dad's calves hint at rivaling inkman's. (Inkman is the guy whose calves we joke about right?) Inky's calves are no joke, man. They are the most real deal of all the real deals. Trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 Inkman's calves have their own SabreSpace account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) For those asking about Moulson... hears crickets... Botterill said flat out he will not be back with the Sabres. https://theathletic.com/407746/2018/06/25/buffalo-sabres-matt-moulson-ahl-2018-nhl-season/ Edited June 25, 2018 by Skurk Liger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 All time Sabres 26s, where will Dahlin fall, in terms of greatness, on this list after this year? Larry Keenan 1971 Randy Wyrozub 1972 Derek Smith 1976 Alex Tidey 1977-1978 Ken Breitenbach 1979 Steve Patrick 1981-1985 Val James 1982 Mal Davis 1984 Dave Maloney 1985 Phil Russell 1986-1987 Pat Hughes 1986 Robert Logan 1987-1988 Richie Dunn 1989 Darrin Shannon 1989 Dean Kennedy 1990-1991 Keith Carney 1992 Derek Plante 1994-1999 Eric Boulton 2001-2004 Thomas Vanek 2006-2014 Matt Moulson 2014-2017 Oh man, there’s a whole division for Elevens game on that list alone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 So if the Sabres were to sign Vanek in FA would Vanek have to ask Dahlin to wear #26? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 So if the Sabres were to sign Vanek in FA would Vanek have to ask Dahlin to wear #26? I think Vanek would not even ask and would just wear #62. He wore #62 on Detroit, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 I believe the question was asked tongue-in-cheek. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 IDK, if you do four lines I think he makes it as a LW. A quick look at one site and I see Martin, Satan, and Andreychuk as clearly ahead of him. Am I missing anyone? I'd take Vanek over Satan all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted June 25, 2018 Report Share Posted June 25, 2018 I'd take Vanek over Satan all day. His career stats are slightly better but the Slayer fan inside my brain says Satan all day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 #1 This encapsulates what's wrong with your thinking re:Dahlin. Thomas Vanek had roughly 250 goals and 500 points as a Sabre. Yet a rookie defenseman is going to pass him in one season? Exactly why are you putting such unrealistic expectations on Dahlin? Thank God you're not Botterill/Housley. Botterill yesterday was already talking about sheltered minutes for Dahlin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 This encapsulates what's wrong with your thinking re:Dahlin. Thomas Vanek had roughly 250 goals and 500 points as a Sabre. Yet a rookie defenseman is going to pass him in one season? Exactly why are you putting such unrealistic expectations on Dahlin? Thank God you're not Botterill/Housley. Botterill yesterday was already talking about sheltered minutes for Dahlin. I think they were being hyperbolic, but I agree with what you say here. Vanek gets shoveled into the JAG group with the Staffords and the Gaustads of his era, but he was by far the best of that group for the longest time. Dahlin will almost certainly not surpass him in one season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 I think they were being hyperbolic, but I agree with what you say here. Vanek gets shoveled into the JAG group with the Staffords and the Gaustads of his era, but he was by far the best of that group for the longest time. Dahlin will almost certainly not surpass him in one season. Vanek is #7 all time according to Bleacher Report! https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/1742255-ranking-the-top-25-buffalo-sabres-of-all-time.amp.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 No way I would put him that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 If Dahlin is a Sabre for 10+ years and breaks, what... 600 points? -- he's the best 26. Even if he switches numbers at some point. As to Vanek/Satan. it's Vanek hands down, although he benefited from two seasons in mostly wide-open hockey and a very balanced, excellent scoring lineup... something Satan could never dream of while he was here (he later had it with Pitt and earned a Cup for it). During their primes, both players were ultimately relied on to be nearly the sole source of offense on center-bereft squads -- Satan had a season with Drury/Briere and Vanek had two, but played with Roy. Vanek did a lot more for the offense... took the punishment for deflections, very underrated passer, too. Vanek was 5th overall and Miro was a 5th rounder, so it passes the talent prediction test as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 No way I would put him that high. I agree with you, not Bleacher Report. Just always fun to look at! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 This number subject has always intrigued me. Really what's the big deal about it?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 (edited) This number subject has always intrigued me. Really what's the big deal about it?? Rip Simonick. There's the perception, right or wrong (or maybe somewhere in between) that he assigns jersey numbers with the callous disregard of a despot. "You want 15? 15's available. But here, take #41." (True story... Jack wore 41 early on.) And it gets people wrapped around the axle. There's something about a player earning his number, but the sense is the Rip is the one who determines who's deserved their own number and who hasn't, and his criteria are not uniformly applied. Edited June 26, 2018 by Doohickie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted June 26, 2018 Report Share Posted June 26, 2018 Rip Simonick. There's the perception, right or wrong (or maybe somewhere in between) that he assigns jersey numbers with the callous disregard of a despot. "You want 15? 15's available. But here, take #41." (True story... Jack wore 41 early on.) And it gets people wrapped around the axle. There's something about a player earning his number, but the sense is the Rip is the one who determines who's deserved their own number and who hasn't, and his criteria are not uniformly applied. Howeva... Rip does seem to have a knack for knowing who was a real prospect and who was struggling to make a roster. The blue chip kids got real hockey numbers. The fringe guys had to earn it. And I don't think there were more than a handful of guys of Rip's career that he was wrong about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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