nfreeman Posted October 9, 2017 Report Share Posted October 9, 2017 It's not quite panic time yet. KO is a good scoring winger and Pommer looks like he can still be one as well. Zemgus has shown offensive ability in the past, and Griffith has been a good AHL-level scorer. Once ROR, Reino and KO show up -- and I think they will -- the scoring winger issue will be much less urgent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) If Reinhart does go back to wing: Kane - Eichel - Reinhart Girgensons - O'Reilly - Okposo Pouliot - Larsson - Pominville Nolan - Josefson - Griffith --- Maybe moving up to 1st line RW sparks Sam (3gp, 0g, 0a, -6), and we get a truly consistent first line. Hopefully ROR starts figuring it out at 2C. Gets Larsson back to C where he can go back to being a pestering, defensive-matchup centre. Let line 4 buzz around with speed. Edited October 10, 2017 by Thorny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 If Reinhart does go back to wing: Kane - Eichel - Reinhart Girgensons - O'Reilly - Okposo Pouliot - Larsson - Pominville Nolan - Josefson - Griffith --- Maybe moving up to 1st line RW sparks Sam (3gp, 0g, 0a, -6), and we get a truly consistent first line. Hopefully ROR starts figuring it out at 2C. Gets Larsson back to C where he can go back to being a pestering, defensive-matchup centre. Let line 4 buzz around with speed. I'm forcing guys to off-wings. Okposo-Eichel-Pominville Kane-O'Reilly-Reinhart Girgensons-Larsson-Pouliot Nolan-Josefson-Griffith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 If Reinhart at C lasts three games, I may have a seizure. I know patience is the last thing in the known universe anyone wants to hear right now, but he's still crushing the possession numbers when he's on the ice. Let's give it some time to start turning into scoring (unless you're about to argue the grade-A chances he's whiffed on would magically have gone in the net if he were a winger). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 If Reinhart at C lasts three games, I may have a seizure. I know patience is the last thing in the known universe anyone wants to hear right now, but he's still crushing the possession numbers when he's on the ice. Let's give it some time to start turning into scoring (unless you're about to argue the grade-A chances he's whiffed on would magically have gone in the net if he were a winger). I'll worry about the third line scoring when the other two start. We're missing a piece in that top six and I don't know who else to put there. This is why I wanted Vanek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 I'm forcing guys to off-wings. Okposo-Eichel-Pominville Kane-O'Reilly-Reinhart Girgensons-Larsson-Pouliot Nolan-Josefson-Griffith That could work. Gotta think that gives Eichel all the chance in the world for success, and the 2nd line would be dangerous with current Kane and the better versions of Sam and Ryan. I might switch Griffith and Pouliot. Griffith is a smarter player and I'd be more comfortable with Larsson's line getting more minutes with him on it. But other that that, I like the lineup you posted more than the one I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 I'll worry about the third line scoring when the other two start. We're missing a piece in that top six and I don't know who else to put there. This is why I wanted Vanek. If we're talking the last two games, I'd say we're missing five pieces there :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 That could work. Gotta think that gives Eichel all the chance in the world for success, and the 2nd line would be dangerous with current Kane and the better versions of Sam and Ryan. I might switch Griffith and Pouliot. Griffith is a smarter player and I'd be more comfortable with Larsson's line getting more minutes with him on it. But other that that, I like the lineup you posted more than the one I did. My goal is to get smart players with Eichel. I like Kane's effort level but he's a pretty dumb player. I liked what I saw from Okposo and Eichel on the power play last year and I like Pommers with Jack as well. If we're talking the last two games, I'd say we're missing five pieces there :p Give me a few weeks and this might not be a joke :blush: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 If Reinhart at C lasts three games, I may have a seizure. I know patience is the last thing in the known universe anyone wants to hear right now, but he's still crushing the possession numbers when he's on the ice. Let's give it some time to start turning into scoring (unless you're about to argue the grade-A chances he's whiffed on would magically have gone in the net if he were a winger). I still want Sam at C for a few more games. I'm not giving up on it just yet. We may get there though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) My preference w/ this forward grouping still would be more along the lines of Girgensons - Eichel - Griffith Pouliot - O'Reilly - Okposo Kane - Reinhart - Pominville Nolan - Larsson - Josefson but, if it might give O'Reilly a chance to wake up, run w/ O'Reilly - Eichel - Pominville Kane - Reinhart - Okposo Girgensons - Larsson - Griffith Pouliot - Josefson - Nolan. Though truthfully, just getting the PP to net 1-2 goals / game w/ 0 against would be huge for getting their heads on straight. Add in 0 5-6 D on the top pairing & this could work. Edited October 10, 2017 by Taro T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 If Reinhart at C lasts three games, I may have a seizure. I know patience is the last thing in the known universe anyone wants to hear right now, but he's still crushing the possession numbers when he's on the ice. Let's give it some time to start turning into scoring (unless you're about to argue the grade-A chances he's whiffed on would magically have gone in the net if he were a winger).I feel like I'm the only noticing how many chances his line generates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 That second set of Taro's lines is exactly what my heart desires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 That second set of Taro's lines is exactly what my heart desires. I could live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) O'Reilly playing second fiddle to Eichel makes so much sense to me. I think it'd do him a world of good to not have to be the best player on his line. It wouldn't hurt Jack to have some real help in the D-zone, either. Maybe flip Kane and Girgensons. Edited October 10, 2017 by qwksndmonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 O'Reilly playing second fiddle to Eichel makes so much sense to me. I think it'd do him a world of good to not have to be the best player on his line. It wouldn't hurt Jack to have some real help in the D-zone, either. Maybe flip Kane and Girgensons. Nah. Kane is good there. Girgensons needs to find the net with some of his shots first. He's close, but not as close as Kane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 If Housley wants to roll three effective lines he needs to give Kane his own line. Larsson and Kane together are a nightmare for the other team. Nah. Kane is good there. Girgensons needs to find the net with some of his shots first. He's close, but not as close as Kane.My heart does still desire some Kane/Samson action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 If Housley wants to roll three effective lines he needs to give Kane his own line. Larsson and Kane together are a nightmare for the other team. My heart does still desire some Kane/Samson action. I just really need him anywhere but with Eichel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 If Housley wants to roll three effective lines he needs to give Kane his own line. Larsson and Kane together are a nightmare for the other team. My heart does still desire some Kane/Samson action. Until Eichel & O'Reilly get going, that's true. But what message are they sending to Kane to not only take him off the Eichel line but then give him a C that's been playing W on the 4th line? They just can't do that IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Cheesess. Kane and Jack are the only forwards having any scoring success and we want to disturb that? Eichel creates space for Kane, and Kane creates space fro Jack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Cheesess. Kane and Jack are the only forwards having any scoring success and we want to disturb that? Eichel creates space for Kane, and Kane creates space fro Jack. I don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Cheesess. Kane and Jack are the only forwards having any scoring success and we want to disturb that? Eichel creates space for Kane, and Kane creates space fro Jack. and Kane has 4 goals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 and Kane has 4 goals At least 1 of which Eichel wasn't on the ice for (1st SH goal) & at least 1 other (his PP goal) that Eichel wasn't involved in the play on. Can't recall if Eichel was out for the other SH goal but don't believe he was. If he was out for it, believe he got the assist, but want to say that was O'Reilly. And Kane's 4th goal was the steal off the goalie by Eichel to Kane in front w/ no goalie. They did work together on the play, but neither guy "created space" for the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 At least 1 of which Eichel wasn't on the ice for (1st SH goal) & at least 1 other (his PP goal) that Eichel wasn't involved in the play on. Can't recall if Eichel was out for the other SH goal but don't believe he was. If he was out for it, believe he got the assist, but want to say that was O'Reilly. And Kane's 4th goal was the steal off the goalie by Eichel to Kane in front w/ no goalie. They did work together on the play, but neither guy "created space" for the other. Eichel. He stole it from Halak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 (edited) Eichel. He stole it from Halak. :huh: Pretty sure thst's what my post said. :unsure: EDIT: Ah, OK, the one that Eichel stole was the 2nd SHG. Thanks! :beer: Edited October 10, 2017 by Taro T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted October 10, 2017 Report Share Posted October 10, 2017 Cheesess. Kane and Jack are the only forwards having any scoring success and we want to disturb that? Eichel creates space for Kane, and Kane creates space fro Jack. While they're the only ones scoring goals, the only goal where one had anything to do with the other scoring is the shorty, and we can still keep them out as the penalty kill duo for the last 20 seconds or so. So they have had a hand in 1 goal for each other, but they've been on the ice for 5 or 6 against, I believe. As our problem lately has been keeping the puck out of the net, why is is such a ludicrous idea to try and spread the scoring around while breaking up a duo that has proven in the past to have abominable goals-against numbers while on the ice, and is continuing that trend this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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