TrueBlueGED Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 No way SD trades Rivers unless he pulls a Carson Palmer on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Also with respect to the secondary play, his concept is primarily a zone - cover 3, which is heavily corner dependent, and was very successful with the best zone corner in the league (Norman). His concept relied heavily on the ability of all three linebackers to drop quickly into deep zones (which may be where we struggle a bit) as his defense is helped significantly by having 3 LBs (or at least 2) with almost safety-like speed and dropping ability, which creates very small windows in the zones for QBs to try to thread. We have Zach Brown who can do that, but we don't have a Keuchly like LB to do everything - is this Ragland? No way SD trades Rivers unless he pulls a Carson Palmer on them. Also I don't think Rivers is in the cards, he was very against moving his family from SD to LA, can't imagine he would sign off on SD -> Buffalo. I would think we would pursue a veteran like Romo, Brees, Cousins etc. if we don't stick with Tyrod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted January 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Seems like Ragland might end up a casualty of changing scheme? Maybe we could flip him a la Kelvin Sheppard (sp?) to a team that needs a 2-down thumper in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Also with respect to the secondary play, his concept is primarily a zone - cover 3, which is heavily corner dependent, and was very successful with the best zone corner in the league (Norman). His concept relied heavily on the ability of all three linebackers to drop quickly into deep zones (which may be where we struggle a bit) as his defense is helped significantly by having 3 LBs (or at least 2) with almost safety-like speed and dropping ability, which creates very small windows in the zones for QBs to try to thread. We have Zach Brown who can do that, but we don't have a Keuchly like LB to do everything - is this Ragland? Also I don't think Rivers is in the cards, he was very against moving his family from SD to LA, can't imagine he would sign off on SD -> Buffalo. I would think we would pursue a veteran like Romo, Brees, Cousins etc. if we don't stick with Tyrod. With respect to the LBs, I'm not sure I like the idea of Preston Brown and Ragland next to each other in this defense. Really don't think either of them is that true all-around MLB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 With respect to the LBs, I'm not sure I like the idea of Preston Brown and Ragland next to each other in this defense. Really don't think either of them is that true all-around MLB. I agree. Most of our personnel fit well with the 4-3, but the LB's are decidedly more in a 3-4 thumper mold. That would be the toughest transition. Then again we haven't even seen Ragland play yet, so we don't know what we have there. I also think competent 4-3 LB's are one of the easier positions to fill, especially since you end up in nickel most of the time anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I remember the film on Ragaland. The report was he can't really cover too well. He looked pretty good in film on that So with this guy's system it sounds like it relies heavily on a safety. Is there any doubt we pick one at 10 now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I remember the film on Ragaland. The report was he can't really cover too well. He looked pretty good in film on that So with this guy's system it sounds like it relies heavily on a safety. Is there any doubt we pick one at 10 now? That would be dubious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) That would be dubious Why? Trent Dilfer, who's opinion I value highly, went on espn radio and was really, really high on Deshaun Watson. Can see him being a 2nd round pick, but believes he rates him at a top 5 pick. Loves hit attitude, confidence, and says he's a throw first QB. Likens him to Winston Edited January 11, 2017 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Why? Trent Dilfer, who's opinion I value highly, went on espn radio and was really, really high on Deshaun Watson. Can see him being a 2nd round pick, but believes he rates him at a top 5 pick. Loves hit attitude, confidence, and says he's a throw first QB. Likens him to Winston Is he a throw first QB, or a first-read-only QB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Is he a throw first QB, or a first-read-only QB? Seems to be pretty decent at surveying the field The film doesn't look great on him. His accuracy and decision making really don't look very good. Dilfer claims it's like making a stew; the meat is the talent, and everything else are the intangibles. If you make a stew with just meat, it's crap. But if you add everything else, it works. Claims Watson has that everything else, and can envision him winning a SB in the future. I'm not sold on him. His film is not pretty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I really don't know much about football, but it seems that if the guy who destroyed Ohio State in the semi-final and then rolled over the Tide to win the National Championship is available at #10 then the Bills would be foolish not to take him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 If you are interested in McDermott's defensive scheme, below is a nice breakdown with visuals for the basic concept of his 4-3 Under defense. http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/11/8/5080004/panthers-vs-49ers-defense-breakdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I really don't know much about football, but it seems that if the guy who destroyed Ohio State in the semi-final and then rolled over the Tide to win the National Championship is available at #10 then the Bills would be foolish not to take him. The Bills already have a quarterback who beat Alabama en route to a national championship. Be careful with evaluating a guy based upon a couple of games, no matter how meaningful those games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 (edited) I'd rather have Watson than Trubisky. Edited January 11, 2017 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'd rather have Watson than Trubisky.Easily. But Kizer over both? Only teams who will take a QB before us, potentially, are the Bears, Jets, and 49s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Easily. But Kizer over both? Only teams who will take a QB before us, potentially, are the Bears, Jets, and 49s Cleveland and possibly San Diego. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Easily. But Kizer over both? Only teams who will take a QB before us, potentially, are the Bears, Jets, and 49s Absolutely. I luuuuuuurve Kizer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Cleveland and possibly San Diego.Can't see Cleveland passing up on Garret. Why SD? I'd be surprised if they spent a pick that high on Rivers eventual replacementAbsolutely. I luuuuuuurve Kizer.I've watched his film, what is it about him that sticks out to you? Do you like him relative to the other talent in this draft or overall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Can't see Cleveland passing up on Garret. Why SD? I'd be surprised if they spent a pick that high on Rivers eventual replacement I've watched his film, what is it about him that sticks out to you? Do you like him relative to the other talent in this draft or overall? I really like him in general, not just as the best of this year's crop. He's not gonna run like Tyrod, but he has great pocket mobility to extend plays (and keeps his eyes up while doing so), a big arm, good accuracy (though like most, it comes and goes if he's getting consistently pressured). Reminds me of Roethlisberger as a prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 The Bills already have a quarterback who beat Alabama en route to a national championship. Be careful with evaluating a guy based upon a couple of games, no matter how meaningful those games. So, there you go proving my point about me not knowing much about football. :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 I really like him in general, not just as the best of this year's crop. He's not gonna run like Tyrod, but he has great pocket mobility to extend plays (and keeps his eyes up while doing so), a big arm, good accuracy (though like most, it comes and goes if he's getting consistently pressured). Reminds me of Roethlisberger as a prospect.Nice. Draft up for him, or just pray he slides to us? I say draft up Also, why hasn't Dabo gotten any looks from NFL teams for coaching vacancies? So, there you go proving my point about me not knowing much about football. :w00t: Think that qualifies you for a job in the Bills FO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Are the Bills actually going to take a QB in the first round, do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 Are the Bills actually going to take a QB in the first round, do you guys think?I wouldn't doubt it. If we do, we go full Eagles/Rams from last year and jump into the top 5 for this years first + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 McCoy is far from a certainty at OC. Albert Breed tweeting he could have options at Bills, Jets, Skins, and Broncos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted January 11, 2017 Report Share Posted January 11, 2017 According to a Bay Area Report it's not happening Vance Joseph wanted to hire Todd Downing as OC, that changed yesterday. Now Mike McCoy will be his OC in Denver per multiple sources Per Schefter McCoy and Bill Musgrave are interviewing on Thursday for the job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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