That Aud Smell Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Nick Kypreos @RealKyper Hearing #Flames Wideman had his #NHL suspension reduced by 10 games by neutral arbitrator James Oldham today. @SNHockeyCentral Well, there ya go. Another great Gary Bettman decision! After he's served just about the full 20, too. NHL gon' NHL. I read that the arbitrator indicated that the incident was at least partly attributable to Wideman being impaired from an apparent concussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 It was so obvious Napoleon was stringing this out to 20 games no matter what happened, couldn't they have put it off one more day to make it 20 games officially? I hope the NHLPA gets involved in this. ###### move that I hope ends in a lawsuit. The NHL is slowly becoming as corrupt as the NFL. I agree, but they both have a long way to go to match the most awesomely corrupt FIFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 It was so obvious Napoleon was stringing this out to 20 games no matter what happened, couldn't they have put it off one more day to make it 20 games officially? I hope the NHLPA gets involved in this. ###### move that I hope ends in a lawsuit. The NHL is slowly becoming as corrupt as the NFL. I agree, but they both have a long way to go to match the most awesomely corrupt FIFA. Maybe an attorney like Smell can correct me here but I don't think it was really up to Bettman and the NHL to control how long this process took ... the NHLPA filed the appeal and it followed the procedures which were collectively bargained. The decision was handed down by an independent arbiter. If the NHLPA doesn't like how long it took, they can negotiate a different system into the next CBA. No doubt it is skewed against the player but a lot of individual issues in CBAs are not split right down the middle from a fairness standpoint on their own. Again, I say this all with the big caveat that I am no lawyer ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 (edited) Smell isn't a lawyer any more, Pipes. Didn't you hear he was promoted to Judge and sat on one trial and then disappeared. We have had PA under the bare bulb and he isn't talking. .......... Damn phone. Edited March 11, 2016 by Sabres Fan In NS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Smell isn't a lawyer any more, Pipes. Didn't you hear he was promote to Judge and sat on one trial and then disappeared. We have had PA under the bear bulb and he isn't talking. He's more of a lawyer than I am. Or he at least played one on message boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Smell isn't a lawyer any more, Pipes. Didn't you hear he was promoted to Judge and sat on one trial and then disappeared. We have had PA under the bare bulb and he isn't talking. .......... Damn phone. He's more of a lawyer than I am. Or he at least played one on message boards. I heard the news will be talking about Supreme Court Justice Smell any day now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Maybe an attorney like Smell can correct me here but I don't think it was really up to Bettman and the NHL to control how long this process took ... the NHLPA filed the appeal and it followed the procedures which were collectively bargained. The decision was handed down by an independent arbiter. If the NHLPA doesn't like how long it took, they can negotiate a different system into the next CBA. No doubt it is skewed against the player but a lot of individual issues in CBAs are not split right down the middle from a fairness standpoint on their own. Again, I say this all with the big caveat that I am no lawyer ... I see your point, I'm like you and am not entirely sure how the process works. But I do find it highly coincidental that the decision came on the day of what would have been his 20th game. What I did hear, however, is it was up to Bettman whether or not Wideman could play while the appeal took place. That might be a key factor in this mess. The man is becoming a tyrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I see your point, I'm like you and am not entirely sure how the process works. But I do find it highly coincidental that the decision came on the day of what would have been his 20th game. What I did hear, however, is it was up to Bettman whether or not Wideman could play while the appeal took place. That might be a key factor in this mess. The man is becoming a tyrant. Bettman is a clown but he had little choice here. He can't admit he thinks Wideman was concussed, and he can't look soft on violence against an official. Given that it's not a high-profile player ... and anon-playoff team ... I totally understand the ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I'm betting Wideman gets his paycheck for the 10 games. And I'm betting that is the most important part of it for Wideman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Bettman is a clown but he had little choice here. He can't admit he thinks Wideman was concussed, and he can't look soft on violence against an official. Given that it's not a high-profile player ... and anon-playoff team ... I totally understand the ruling. Very true, it's a lose-lose for Napoleon no matter what. But it's not the length of the suspension that I'm questioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Well I just the wideman video again, find it weird so many defend him. He clearly cross checks the linesman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 It was so obvious Napoleon was stringing this out to 20 games no matter what happened, couldn't they have put it off one more day to make it 20 games officially? I hope the NHLPA gets involved in this. ###### move that I hope ends in a lawsuit. The NHL is slowly becoming as corrupt as the NFL. 2 appeals take time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 2 appeals take time. It doesn't take a month and a half. You don't find it awfully coincidental that the decision came out on the day of his 20th game? If he allowed Wideman to play during the appeal like most other organizations, the appeal would have been done a month ago (my opinion of course). Napoleon knew damn well how to play this out so he got his 20 games and he would look good to the refs. Not to mention he can now force the retirement of another veteran ref. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 It doesn't take a month and a half. You don't find it awfully coincidental that the decision came out on the day of his 20th game? If he allowed Wideman to play during the appeal like most other organizations, the appeal would have been done a month ago (my opinion of course). Napoleon knew damn well how to play this out so he got his 20 games and he would look good to the refs. Not to mention he can now force the retirement of another veteran ref. It could very easily take a month and a half with a private arbitrator with other matters to attend to. He's not going to drop all of his pther clients and cases just because a hockey appeal comes in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 It still doesn't negate my point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) It still doesn't negate my point. Let me add...I've now looked the arbitrator up. Professor at Georgetown Law. He has a schedule. These things do take time. I have waited months for arbitrators' decisions on numerous occasions. Could it be a conspiracy? Sure. But it's probably not. Edited March 12, 2016 by Eleven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Let me add...I've now looked the arbitrator up. Professor at Georgetown Law. He has a schedule. These things do take time. I have waited months for arbitrators' decisions on numerous occasions. Could it be a conspiracy? Sure. But it's probably not. Bettman didn't let him play during his appeal. Bettman also waited a few games to announce the 20 games to prolong the process. Bettman knew exactly what he was doing to get him his 20 games. He is a tyrant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 The guy does have quite a lineup. http://www.law.georgetown.edu/faculty/oldham-james-c.cfm# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 NJ-LA has a total of 35 shots with 2 left in the 3rd. St.Louis and Dallas each had that when they entered OT, or very close to it. I really don't want you watch LA in another Cup final Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Sorry to be absent. I don't imagine either side is enamoured of a system that worked like this. They oughta put their heads together and come up with something better. As far as Sabrespace lawyering goes, I'll happily defer to Eleven, 3putt, et al. (there's another of us whose avatar I can see in my mind, but whose name escapes me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Sorry to be absent. I don't imagine either side is enamoured of a system that worked like this. They oughta put their heads together and come up with something better. As far as Sabrespace lawyering goes, I'll happily defer to Eleven, 3putt, et al. (there's another of us whose avatar I can see in my mind, but whose name escapes me). I think nfreeman is a lawyer too, but I could have that all wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 NJ-LA has a total of 35 shots with 2 left in the 3rd. St.Louis and Dallas each had that when they entered OT, or very close to it. I really don't want you watch LA in another Cup final In all fairness, NJ isn't the team known for offense the past 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Malkin out 6-8 weeks with UBI. Goodbye, Pens season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 13, 2016 Report Share Posted March 13, 2016 Malkin out 6-8 weeks with UBI. Goodbye, Pens season #tankingformatthews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted March 14, 2016 Report Share Posted March 14, 2016 Toronto about to beat Detroit in a very un-tank move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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