sabills Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 David Staples @dstaples Oilers rumoured to have interest in Zach Bogosian. Hmmm. At best a Plan B option. http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/edmonton-oilers-rumoured-to-have-interest-in-zach-bogosian-of-buffalo-sabres … Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Make it happen Murray! Craig Rivet this morning: "Bogo is a great defenseman" (emphasis his). I continue to think he has more trade value than on-ice value. Do it! Edited June 17, 2016 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerme1 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 David Staples @dstaples Oilers rumoured to have interest in Zach Bogosian. Hmmm. At best a Plan B option. http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/cult-of-hockey/edmonton-oilers-rumoured-to-have-interest-in-zach-bogosian-of-buffalo-sabres … Expect NY State born BOGO to say no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Expect NY State born BOGO to say no thanks. It's not up to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) It's not up to him. I heard on the way in that WGR thinks his NMC is still in effect..... If so, he must be protected under the Expansion draft and would throw a wrench into who to protect if we can add another top 4 dman. Edited June 17, 2016 by Derrico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I heard on the way in that WGR thinks his NMC is still in effect..... If so, he must be protected under the Expansion draft and would throw a wrench into who to protect if we can add another top 4 dman. His NMC becomes effective 7/1/17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 His NMC becomes effective 7/1/17. So two things.....first WGR is wrong in that Bogo has no say if he were traded today? Secondly, does this mean we have to protect him in Expansion draft? WGR was talking for like 10 minutes on how the Sabres would have to convince Bogo to go to Edmonton if the trade went down now. So once again they were out to lunch I take it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 His NMC becomes effective 7/1/17. Thats what I've gleaned, but I keep hearing conflicting reports. Say what you want about the WGR guys, but I feel like one of them would have come to that conclusion at some point and mentioned it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 I heard on the way in that WGR thinks his NMC is still in effect..... If so, he must be protected under the Expansion draft and would throw a wrench into who to protect if we can add another top 4 dman. Murray said a few months ago he couldn't think of anyone with a NMC, only a few limited no trades. I'm assuming he chose not to honor Bogo's NMC after acquisition. And really, why would he honor it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ct fab Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 His NMC doesn't kick in until 2017. I'm pretty sure we could send Bogo and #8 to Edm for Reinhart and #4, but this makes our RHD weaker now. Why not: Bogo, Girgs,3rd rounder and #8 for Eberle and #4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 His NMC becomes effective 7/1/17. So two things.....first WGR is wrong in that Bogo has no say if he were traded today? Secondly, does this mean we have to protect him in Expansion draft? WGR was talking for like 10 minutes on how the Sabres would have to convince Bogo to go to Edmonton if the trade went down now. So once again they were out to lunch I take it? But according to the CBA, Murray does not have to honor that NMC if he chooses not to, and as per previous comments, it appears he isn't. I believe Bogo no longer has any NMC. Therefore, he does not have to be protected in the expansion draft, and he has no say in any trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Ok, all of my information on Bogosian's NMC has come from you Bozogians, So someone please do the math.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Ya that clarification would be nice. WGR is either really out to lunch or Sabrespace is mistaken. I would probably bet on WGR being wrong.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 spndnchz did post this in the expansion thread: CBA 11.8 (a) says pretty much: "it is up to the acquiring team whether they honor any NMC of the acquired player and will be evidenced in writing". So assuming his NMC was kicking in later, after the trade (even if not, he would have had to waive it to come here), it appears teams have the option of declining the NMC in the contract upon acquiring the player. Murray has said no one has a NMC, so from that I infer that he declined the option on Mr. Bogosian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Make it happen Murray! Craig Rivet this morning: "Bogo is a great defenseman" (emphasis his). I continue to think he has more trade value than on-ice value. Do it! Craig Rivet thinks Roman Polak is a huge reason the Sharks went to the final, and is really high on Cody Franson. Edited June 17, 2016 by Randall Flagg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Craig Rivet thinks Roman Polak is a huge reason the Sharks went to the final, and is really high on Cody Franson. No offense to Rivet but I think he likes defenders who are similar in some ways to him. Rivet wasn't the best skater but he was heavy to play against in his own zone. I think the trend will be heavy guys who can skate like the wind. Speed helped both the Hawks and the Pens win their series. Speed from the backend was necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) Craig Rivet thinks Roman Polak is a huge reason the Sharks went to the final, and is really high on Cody Franson. :w00t: He's out to lunch. Not the way the game is played now of days. Edited June 17, 2016 by Derrico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Fun fact: Cody Franson is a new strain of marijuana where it takes a long time to get going but once it finally does it hits like a truck... or not sometimes it just misses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Craig Rivet thinks Roman Polak is a huge reason the Sharks went to the final, and is really high on Cody Franson. Rivet :52 Then Rivet said, "Let Us make defensemen in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the frozen sea and over the pucks and the nets. Slow footed skating things that creep on the ice. Rivet created defensemen in His own image" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 (edited) From Bob Stauffer My "Guess" is that the Oilers do not have a lot of interest in Zach Bogosian at this time Edited June 17, 2016 by BRAWNDO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Rivet :52 Then Rivet said, "Let Us make defensemen in Our image, according to Our likeness; and let them rule over the frozen sea and over the pucks and the nets. Slow footed skating things that creep on the ice. Rivet created defensemen in His own image" LOL! Funny stuff here. GO SABRES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresith Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Fun fact: Cody Franson is a new strain of marijuana where it takes a long time to get going but once it finally does it hits like a truck... or not sometimes it just misses. Post of the day!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 From Bob Stauffer My "Guess" is that the Oilers do not have a lot of interest in Zach Bogosian at this time If I had to place a wager, I'd say we likely don't trade for #3 or #4, we draft at #8, (probably Chychrun), and no larger trades take place either at the draft or before, for us. Murray fills some gaps in FA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 If I had to place a wager, I'd say we likely don't trade for #3 or #4, we draft at #8, (probably Chychrun), and no larger trades take place either at the draft or before, for us. Murray fills some gaps in FA. This is likely. But oh so boring.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted June 17, 2016 Report Share Posted June 17, 2016 Rivet is a good analyst, but he does love players similar to him. But that does make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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