Ronzer Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Would you trade all of Buffalo's 2017 picks long with Moulson and Ennis for a couple of expiring contracts? We would still have Minnesota's second and Washington's third rounder and get rid of those asshats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Would you trade all of Buffalo's 2017 picks long with Moulson and Ennis for a couple of expiring contracts? We would still have Minnesota's second and Washington's third rounder and get rid of those asshats.So just to check, you want to trade our entire 2017 draft just to get rid of Moulson and Ennis? That doesn't make sense for a number of reasons. The value is way off. Those picks and players have value. It's not like they are Leino. You always need to maximize the value and that would be like pissing against the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 So just to check, you want to trade our entire 2017 draft just to get rid of Moulson and Ennis? That doesn't make sense for a number of reasons. The value is way off. Those picks and players have value. It's not like they are Leino. You always need to maximize the value and that would be like pissing against the wind. Warms you up on a cold day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Would you trade all of Buffalo's 2017 picks long with Moulson and Ennis for a couple of expiring contracts? We would still have Minnesota's second and Washington's third rounder and get rid of those asshats. This is like a reverse Wookie proposal :lol: So just to check, you want to trade our entire 2017 draft just to get rid of Moulson and Ennis? That doesn't make sense for a number of reasons. The value is way off. Those picks and players have value. It's not like they are Leino. You always need to maximize the value and that would be like pissing against the wind. Small correction: Moulson is most definitely Leino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 This is like a reverse Wookie proposal :lol: Small correction: Moulson is most definitely Leino. Moulson is not Leino imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronzer Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 So just to check, you want to trade our entire 2017 draft just to get rid of Moulson and Ennis? That doesn't make sense for a number of reasons. The value is way off. Those picks and players have value. It's not like they are Leino. You always need to maximize the value and that would be like pissing against the wind. Find me the actual return value of those players and I'll eat an endless buffet of crow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Moulson is not Leino imo. You're right, he's actually worse because he's more expensive. Moulson is a net negative on the ice just like Leino was. Find me the actual return value of those players and I'll eat an endless buffet of crow. There is zero value in Moulson, but that doesn't mean it's worth an entire draft to get rid of him. And Ennis still has a reasonable chance to return next year and reestablish value. If his concussion is career threatening, then we stash him on LTIR and get out from under the cap hit for free (well, minus Pegula's wallet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Find me the actual return value of those players and I'll eat an endless buffet of crow.it's not a question a can answer. Ennis is easily wOrth a pick healthy, Moulson I don't believe is as bad as he appears, he doesn't fit Bylsma system. But adding our 1st round pick to Moulson is crazy talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 You're right, he's actually worse because he's more expensive. Moulson is a net negative on the ice just like Leino was. Is Moulson really more expensive than Leino was? Leino was the "second best" FA "center" available the year of the Richards saga. I recall him signing for a pretty nice contract, there's no way that was lower than $5M/yr. Maybe my recollection is piss poor though. :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Is Moulson really more expensive than Leino was? Leino was the "second best" FA "center" available the year of the Richards saga. I recall him signing for a pretty nice contract, there's no way that was lower than $5M/yr. Maybe my recollection is piss poor though. :unsure: Leino's cap hit was $4.5 million. Hey, I never said Moulson was a lot more expensive :) it's not a question a can answer. Ennis is easily wOrth a pick healthy, Moulson I don't believe is as bad as he appears, he doesn't fit Bylsma system. But adding our 1st round pick to Moulson is crazy talk. I really dislike Bylsma. I'd be thrilled if he miraculously got canned after this year. But Moulson's not on him. The guy is finished, and the signs he was going downhill were there before Bylsma got here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Please do not post in threads with links to illegal/pirate streams. Thanks. Thanks for clarification! They are live streamed through YouTube, but I do not know the legality of their source. I'll play it safe and leave it be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Thanks for clarification! They are live streamed through YouTube, but I do not know the legality of their source. I'll play it safe and leave it be. Hey PA I found the Eichel snipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Leino's cap hit was $4.5 million. Hey, I never said Moulson was a lot more expensive :) I really dislike Bylsma. I'd be thrilled if he miraculously got canned after this year. But Moulson's not on him. The guy is finished, and the signs he was going downhill were there before Bylsma got here. Thanks TrueBlue. I was just glad I was able to execute the rare double air quotes comment in my original post. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Thanks TrueBlue. I was just glad I was able to execute the rare double air quotes comment in my original post. :thumbsup: I didn't even notice! I'm sorry, I know the double air quotes means a lot to you. I'll make it up to you later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetterDays06 Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I want Eriksson on this team today. He would make a great addition next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 (edited) I want Eriksson on this team today. He would make a great addition next year Sorry, but you're talking about an in-season trade with a playoff team, for an unrestricted free agent on pace for 75 or so points. Not to mention an in-division rival to a bottom feeder. 0.0000000000000% chance that happens. Buffalo selling not adding. Eriksson is a heck of a player, who you can overpay in the offseason. However, even then that seems unlikely. Edited February 29, 2016 by TheCerebral1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samson's Flow Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I have a feeling a lot of Sabres fans expecting big things today are going to be sorely disappointed. After last year's remake of the whole roster in the few weeks around deadline day, today I'm thinking all we will see is trading away UFA's like Chad Johnson and McGinn for a few picks. Nothing to see here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Sense of asks from Ottawa: Patrick Wiercioch RD3 Shane Prince RD2 I think that's probably negotiable downwards, too. Per Yost. With three thirds this go for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I have a feeling a lot of Sabres fans expecting big things today are going to be sorely disappointed. After last year's remake of the whole roster in the few weeks around deadline day, today I'm thinking all we will see is trading away UFA's like Chad Johnson and McGinn for a few picks. Nothing to see here. I think you're right. Though I'm still holding out hope to offload Gorges and cheaply add the young players Ottawa is dangling (Wiercioch and Prince). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Rumors say Sabres will move players and clear out some money but probably won't be big players today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 Sense of asks from Ottawa: Patrick Wiercioch RD3 Shane Prince RD2 I think that's probably negotiable downwards, too. Per Yost. With three thirds this go for it :unsure: Hitting the bottle early? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I have a feeling a lot of Sabres fans expecting big things today are going to be sorely disappointed. After last year's remake of the whole roster in the few weeks around deadline day, today I'm thinking all we will see is trading away UFA's like Chad Johnson and McGinn for a few picks. Nothing to see here. This is what I'm thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 :unsure: Hitting the bottle early? It is Christm.....errrr Trade Deadline Day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I have a feeling a lot of Sabres fans expecting big things today are going to be sorely disappointed. After last year's remake of the whole roster in the few weeks around deadline day, today I'm thinking all we will see is trading away UFA's like Chad Johnson and McGinn for a few picks. Nothing to see here. I think you're right. Though I'm still holding out hope to offload Gorges and cheaply add the young players Ottawa is dangling (Wiercioch and Prince). Me too, and I have a feeling that there won't be a buyer for CJ. I'd say it's 90% likely that McGinn gets traded today, Franson and CJ are both around 50%, Foligno and Larsson are around 25% and a bigger name like Zemgus around 10%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 29, 2016 Report Share Posted February 29, 2016 I'd keep Larsson, he's proved his value in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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