Jerry Jabber Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) Mike Schopp @Schopptalk now Do Terry and Kim think they got screwed? Not outbid -- screwed. That is my question. Good question. Sounds like Bab "the Co-ck" used Buffalo to get more money out of Toronto. Edited May 20, 2015 by Jerry Jabber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 It was before July 1 but the point still stands. 'We'll never know what happened on July 1.' 'This happened on July 1.' 'Uh, that didn't happen on July 1.' 'Yeah, but it should have.' :lol: PS - the Drury offer sat on TG's desk, not LQ's. And he did EVENTUALLY agree to sign it; but well after Drury'd had enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 In what way were they screwed? Schopp being Schopp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 'We'll never know what happened on July 1.' 'This happened on July 1.' 'Uh, that didn't happen on July 1.' 'Yeah, but it should have.' :lol: PS - the Drury offer sat on TG's desk, not LQ's. And he did EVENTUALLY agree to sign it; but well after Drury'd had enough. And my point is proved. There won't ever be agreement on this, and there won't ever be agreement on what happened with Babcock. We're just the fans and customers, who create all the wealth these guys are scrambling for — we don't deserve to know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Babs will get 8 years $50M from Toronto. If that's the case, why didn't he sign with Buffalo? easy that more than $5 mil a year, and it became obvious Babcock was playing the play the offers against each other game Sabres picked up their offer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 In what way were they screwed? Schopp being Schopp. So that's their angle? Great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphs mike Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 If Murray's unwillingness to cede power was the main issue, how much power should he have been wiling to give? I'm really not sure where I stand on this, but I do believe Murray is a more qualified GM than Babcock, and that an uncertain hierarchy is a recipe for disaster. This is where I am. To this day I remain convinced that the reason Buffalo is the only place Scotty coached without playing in a Cup final is because it was his initial foray into coach/GM. As Gm he drafted Jiri Dudacek in the first round - essentially forfeiting the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 It means she's being silent. Ah, quite so. That you are two years late in unfollowing her... Well, there is that. I suppose she's implying that she has much to say about this, but can't. Mike Schopp @Schopptalk now Do Terry and Kim think they got screwed? Not outbid -- screwed. That is my question. I do not appreciate Schopp suggesting that Mrs. Pegula got screwed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Babs will get 8 years $50M from Toronto. If that's the case, why didn't he sign with Buffalo?more control of the roster.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josie Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Cool! Another reason to hate Toronto! (sorry milbank) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Breaking: Kessel seen dusting off his workout bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 In what way were they screwed? Schopp being Schopp. So that's their angle? Great. Poor choice of words. "Used" is apt, as a theory. more control of the roster.... Friedman tweeted that the deal involves Shanahan and Babcock, together, having final say on all personnel matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsixspd Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 He hates us. Buffalo ends up losing yet again. We'll never get a good coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Poor choice of words. "Used" is apt, as a theory. Friedman tweeted that the deal involves Shanahan and Babcock, together, having final say on all personnel matters. Used? Maybe. Business is business, though. The Pegulas should know that more than most folks. Buffalo ends up losing yet again. We'll never get a good coach. We'll never be happy. WE'LL NEVER GET HUGS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Yea, that's what he said. I don't understand why people (apparently him included) feel the need to disparage Babcock's character here. I was all-in on getting him here, and I'm disappointed it didn't work out...but to go about accosting his character with basically no information about the what and why? Yeesh. I really dislike Hamilton....he is so small market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Poor choice of words. "Used" is apt, as a theory. Friedman tweeted that the deal involves Shanahan and Babcock, together, having final say on all personnel matters. And the two old pals in Buffalo couldn't have made that work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PASabreFan Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 So, no Richards? No Ekblad. No McDavid. No Babcock. So Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 imo this was about having FINAL SAY on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Used? Maybe. Business is business, though. The Pegulas should know that more than most folks. We'll never be happy. WE'LL NEVER GET HUGS Business is predicated on trust. If Babcock gave them a verbal, or said get to this number/ structure and i'll sign...and they did and he didn't ...that is not business. I am not saying that happened, I have no clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 So, no Richards? No Ekblad. No McDavid. No Babcock. So Buffalo. who cares. whats next time to move forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 So is there white smoke yet? No, PopeCock will not be coming to Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 And the two old pals in Buffalo couldn't have made that work? Dunno. Also reading that the deal is so front-loaded that, with the out clause at year 5, this is potentially $8M per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 So, no Richards? No Ekblad. No McDavid. No Babcock. So Buffalo. Richards flamed out mightily with that contract, and he certainly wouldn't have put us over the top. There was a 75% chance we weren't getting Ekblad, an 80% chance we weren't getting McDavid. We also have no idea at this point how Reinhart and Eichel will stack up against Ekblad and McDavid. It's certainly not enough of a difference to complain about. I've never been more excited about the future of Buffalo hockey, even though we didn't get Babdick. Lighten up, ya big depressing lunk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Makes me curious...how many of you are willing to bet the Sabres make the playoffs before the Leafs do? Here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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