Weave Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 I actually like that 3rd line. Gus has playmaking ability, and both Gus and Foligno can dig out pucks and make space for Moulson. I should think that those 3 would do well matched up against bottom 6/ bottom 2 players. It's not a traditional 3rd line, but I'm finding that DB is not a coach that uses traditional thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Road games with Rob Ray really drive me nuts. His color never really touches on line changes and who Byslma has on or off the ice. ( I miss Lorenz) at least when I'm there I can see the moves myself. I actually think most hockey announcers are guilty of this. The US national guys never bother to tell us who's out there and most local guys (regrettably including RJ) don't tell us who's out there for the opponents. If the announcers can't do it at least the production guys could put it on a crawl at the bottom of the screen or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 I actually think most hockey announcers are guilty of this. The US national guys never bother to tell us who's out there and most local guys (regrettably including RJ) don't tell us who's out there for the opponents. If the announcers can't do it at least the production guys could put it on a crawl at the bottom of the screen or something. Not on MSG, who's feeds regularly miss the faceoff ~40% of the time because they're showing a replay or Rob Ray's face. Not being able to tell who's on the ice against who is killing me so far this year, so I haven't been watching the games very closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 Not on MSG, who's feeds regularly miss the faceoff ~40% of the time because they're showing a replay or Rob Ray's face. Not being able to tell who's on the ice against who is killing me so far this year, so I haven't been watching the games very closely. I have watched two games so far, each time I had to look for who was playing, nothing was being said about DD's changes. But he does them so much its probably hard to follow :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 I actually think most hockey announcers are guilty of this. The US national guys never bother to tell us who's out there and most local guys (regrettably including RJ) don't tell us who's out there for the opponents. If the announcers can't do it at least the production guys could put it on a crawl at the bottom of the screen or something. It would be easy enough to put the player #'s at the bottom of the screen. Would instantly tell you what the penalty situation was as well. (Could even have the #'s of the guys in the box, just for kicks.) Would barely take any screen space away and if you have them arranged in 2 rows, you could even know who is playing where. In blue w/ gold trim: 23 90 63 4 55 and on the other side of the screen in white w/ blue trim : (18) 91 24 5 6 So Sabres PP, but for some reason not using a pp unit, w/ Palat in the box. Easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted October 17, 2015 Report Share Posted October 17, 2015 I actually think most hockey announcers are guilty of this. The US national guys never bother to tell us who's out there and most local guys (regrettably including RJ) don't tell us who's out there for the opponents. If the announcers can't do it at least the production guys could put it on a crawl at the bottom of the screen or something. This drives me crazy about the simulcasts as well. Dan Dunleavy referred to a graphic on the TV Broadcast and did not explain what it was for the radio listeners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Anyone else care to revise their lines based on what we've seen so far? I'll go Kane - O'Reilly - Reinhart Ennis - Eichel - Foligno Moulson - Girgensons - Gionta Des - Larsson - McGinn Risto - Gorges Pysk -McCabe Franson - Weber Johnson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Flip Foligno and Moulson and I would like to give it a try. Moulson will go to the front and Jack and Tyler will generate. Ror and Kane should be able to dominate possession. I would like to see them for a bit. Also there is enough shelter for Samson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I am starting to see why Kane was rarely used with the best players in the Jets. How about trying him with Zemgus and give Moulson his shot with Jack? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I am starting to see why Kane was rarely used with the best players in the Jets. How about trying him with Zemgus and give Moulson his shot with Jack? That might just work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I am starting to see why Kane was rarely used with the best players in the Jets. How about trying him with Zemgus and give Moulson his shot with Jack? This. So much this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I am starting to see why Kane was rarely used with the best players in the Jets. How about trying him with Zemgus and give Moulson his shot with Jack? That might just work. This. So much this. Then who gets put on that 3rd line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Reinhart - RoR - Ennis - it worked well should have another shot. Kane - Eichel - Girgensons - I think zemgus is the only one that can somewhat keep up, maybe Foligno to. Moulson - Larrson - Gionta - they all had chemistry with each other at some point last season. Deslauriers - Legwand - Foligno - If legwand keeps playing like this I would try to resign him to a two year deal. McGinn out of all the players he dissapointed me the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Then who gets put on that 3rd line? Put Kane with Zemgus and Marcus on the third line. Impossible to play against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Put Kane with Zemgus and Marcus on the third line. Impossible to play against. Kane is not going on a 3rd line. We didn't get him to be centered by Zemgus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Kane is not going on a 3rd line. We didn't get him to be centered by Zemgus. Kane would still get his 18 minutes a game. Bylsma is playing pairs and situations, not a traditional three-line heirarchy. I still want to see the traditional line-up I pitched in August: Kane/O'Reilly/Ennis Moulson/Eichel/Girgensons Foligno Reinhart Gionta McGinn/Larsson/Deslauriers Or why not this? Moulson/Eichel/O'Reilly Kane/Reinhart/Girgensons Ennis/Larsson/Gionta Foligno/Legwand/Deslauriers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Kane would still get his 18 minutes a game. Bylsma is playing pairs and situations, not a traditional three-line heirarchy. I still want to see the traditional line-up I pitched in August: Kane/O'Reilly/Ennis Moulson/Eichel/Girgensons Foligno Reinhart Gionta McGinn/Larsson/Deslauriers Or why not this? Moulson/Eichel/O'Reilly Kane/Reinhart/Girgensons Ennis/Larsson/Gionta Foligno/Legwand/Deslauriers Kane on a 3rd line with 18 minutes/game means that the Eichel or O'Reilly line sees 3rd line minutes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Kane on a 3rd line with 18 minutes/game means that the Eichel or O'Reilly line sees 3rd line minutes What I'm saying is Kane/Girgensons doesn't have to be a third line. Maybe they are the second line with Reinhart or Gionta or Moulson, while Eichel Ennis and O'Reilly is the first. Maybe we run three equal lines and kane pads his ice time on special teams. Remember the lines aren't static, even during a game, and special teams has a big impact on ice time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I think Eichel and Kane are the Sabres' 2 best forwards, and 5 games is too early to pull the plug. I think they will figure it out. I also like the idea of having Kane's understated menace there to protect the franchise. Kane had a goal disallowed on an offside replay review and, separately, was extremely close to converting an amazing Eichel feed on the doorstep. If he's got those 2 goals in his account, are we having this conversation right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 If he's got those 2 goals in his account, are we having this conversation right now? Coulda-woulda-shoulda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 What I'm saying is Kane/Girgensons doesn't have to be a third line. Maybe they are the second line with Reinhart or Gionta or Moulson, while Eichel Ennis and O'Reilly is the first. Maybe we run three equal lines and kane pads his ice time on special teams. Remember the lines aren't static, even during a game, and special teams has a big impact on ice time. I get that Byslma has pairs rather than lines, and that he will change the lines mid-game, but it still remains he has to put 3 forwards out as a group, and that means we have 2 guys that don't belong getting equal minutes at the cost of our higher skilled guys. I think Eichel and Kane are the Sabres' 2 best forwards, and 5 games is too early to pull the plug. I think they will figure it out. I also like the idea of having Kane's understated menace there to protect the franchise. Kane had a goal disallowed on an offside replay review and, separately, was extremely close to converting an amazing Eichel feed on the doorstep. If he's got those 2 goals in his account, are we having this conversation right now? If they're our two best forwards, they shouldn't be on the same line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I think Eichel and Kane are the Sabres' 2 best forwards, and 5 games is too early to pull the plug. I think they will figure it out. I also like the idea of having Kane's understated menace there to protect the franchise. Kane had a goal disallowed on an offside replay review and, separately, was extremely close to converting an amazing Eichel feed on the doorstep. If he's got those 2 goals in his account, are we having this conversation right now? Extremely close? He blasted it into the defender's leg. And I still think we are having this conversation if Kane had 2 goals. I think O'Reilly and Eichel are our best forwards, Kane is a close 3rd. I just don't see a fit in Kane and Eichel's styles. I want both of these guys to be the ones carrying the puck. I love the idea of Zemgus and Marcus following Evander in on the forecheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 I think Eichel and Kane are the Sabres' 2 best forwards, and 5 games is too early to pull the plug. I think they will figure it out. I also like the idea of having Kane's understated menace there to protect the franchise. Kane had a goal disallowed on an offside replay review and, separately, was extremely close to converting an amazing Eichel feed on the doorstep. If he's got those 2 goals in his account, are we having this conversation right now? I'm not opposed to more patience, I just think they are too similar in that they both want the puck. Extremely close? He blasted it into the defender's leg. And I still think we are having this conversation if Kane had 2 goals. I think O'Reilly and Eichel are our best forwards, Kane is a close 3rd. I just don't see a fit in Kane and Eichel's styles. I want both of these guys to be the ones carrying the puck. I love the idea of Zemgus and Marcus following Evander in on the forecheck. That would be interesting to watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 Buffalo Sabres @BuffaloSabres 5h5 hours ago #Sabres lines at practice this AM: Reinhart-O'Reilly-Ennis Kane-Eichel-McGinn Moulson-Girgensons-Gionta Deslauriers-Legwand/Larsson-Foligno Buffalo Sabres @BuffaloSabres 4h4 hours ago Defense at practice: Gorges-Ristolainen McCabe-Pysyk Weber-Colaiacovo Franson and Bogosian are not on the ice this morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted October 19, 2015 Report Share Posted October 19, 2015 (edited) Well, here's a surprise for everyone http://sabres.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=783890&navid=DL|BUF|home MONDAY’S PRACTICE Forwards 23 Sam Reinhart – 90 Ryan O’Reilly – 63 Tyler Ennis 9 Evander Kane – 15 Jack Eichel – 88 Jamie McGinn 26 Matt Moulson – 28 Zemgus Girgensons – 12 Brian Gionta 44 Nicolas Deslauriers – 17 David Legwand/22 Johan Larsson – 82 Marcus Foligno Defense 4 Josh Gorges – 55 Rasmus Ristolainen 29 Jake McCabe – 3 Mark Pysyk 25 Carlo Colaiacovo – 6 Mike Weber 31 Chad Johnson50 Nathan Lieuwen Franson had a maintenance day and is day-to-day, Bogosian still not practicing Dammit Liger! Edited October 19, 2015 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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