Hoss Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 He's not. But he's a damn near close to the perfect depth roster player. Exactly. I hope he's here for a long time. Sure but are guys like Gallagher, Garbutt, Maroon, Dupuis, Eakin, etc? All top 6 guys on top teams. Some very successful teams' approach is balance, and we're getting closer to being afforded the depth to follow that lead. All I'm saying. Guys like Dupuis, Gallagher and Eakin have a lot more offense to their game and fit into a top-six role. Garbutt is on Chicago's third line. But you're on point with what you're saying. Guys can play in the top-six even if they're not a top-six talent, but they've got to have the type of game that fits there long-term. I don't think Delo does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I promise you all Deslauriers is not a top-six talent. Neither is Justin Abdelkader. He has a very similar style of play and talent level to Deslauriers. Yet there he is on Detroit's top line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Separately, I think McCabe is in the lineup to stay, and Schaller will be here full time next year. I have been quite impressed with both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 Neither is Justin Abdelkader. He has a very similar style of play and talent level to Deslauriers. Yet there he is on Detroit's top line. I think you're under rating Abdelkader. He's an occasionally dirty but very talented player. He's got a finishing touch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I think you're underrating Deslauriers. We'll see who's right. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 31, 2015 Report Share Posted October 31, 2015 I think you're under rating Abdelkader. He's an occasionally dirty but very talented player. He's got a finishing touch. Let's not get carried away on Abdelkader. Last year was the only season in his career above 30 points. He's as much of a top-6 player as Cory Conacher was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Separately, I think McCabe is in the lineup to stay, and Schaller will be here full time next year. I have been quite impressed with both. I'll agree with you on McCabe. You might be right on Schaller too, but my Magic 8 Ball says "Cannot predict now." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Deslauriers has certainly passed my expected ceiling already. I'll give Murray credit for seeing something there. The guy only started playing his position a little over two years ago. Sometimes unexpected players just keep getting better and smash all our expectations. Not saying that's Nick, but it happens. Remember Bobby Nystrom and John Tonelli? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 Schaller is a guy you use in emergency situations sparingly. He's a McCormick type of kid. I don't really think there's much more outside of that. McCabe has improved each and every game since his insertion into the top six under Bylsma. He's entering the rush and making clean passes. He's always had the physical upside that you need to make Mike Weber irrelevant, which is what you ultimately want. All their missing on the back 6 is a bona fide number one defensemen. Ryan Ellis would be a perfect fit from Nashville who has long term contracts on everyone but Seth Jones at this point. He's undersized, but his puck movement and speed are off the charts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted November 1, 2015 Report Share Posted November 1, 2015 I remember him falling a lot his rookie season, but definitely less last year. I had the same impression during his rookie year and second years. I don't yet have an impression regarding falling this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I know Gorges has his detractors, but I like the combination of he and Risto. Seems to be a good match and they've been pretty effective against some tough matchups. The McCabe/Franson combo has also looked like a pretty good complement. My question is what happens when Bogo comes back? If it's me, I stick with the above pairs, shift Pysyk to the left side and match him up with Zach. McCabe and Risto's maturation is actually creating some depth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 The Bogo return, if it ever happens, will be interesting. My gut tells me Colaiacovo goes down. My brain tells me Weber should (wouldn't be shocked to see a team claim him on waivers). If Murray knows ahead of time that Bogo will be returning for sure he should shop whichever vet he plans to send down. You're not going to get much (if anything), but it's worth that rather than waiving them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Is there even a hint of news on Bogo yet? Given how long he's been out you'd figure we'd have heard of the injury type by now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 The Bogo return, if it ever happens, will be interesting. My gut tells me Colaiacovo goes down. My brain tells me Weber should (wouldn't be shocked to see a team claim him on waivers). If Murray knows ahead of time that Bogo will be returning for sure he should shop whichever vet he plans to send down. You're not going to get much (if anything), but it's worth that rather than waiving them. ...Reinhart gets sent down, and Andrew Peters' dreams come true :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Deslauriers has certainly passed my expected ceiling already. I'll give Murray credit for seeing something there. The guy only started playing his position a little over two years ago. Sometimes unexpected players just keep getting better and smash all our expectations. Not saying that's Nick, but it happens. Remember Bobby Nystrom and John Tonelli? The other thing about Nic that I really like is he gives you defensive depth on the bench. There was a game last year when the Sabres had 3 Dmen in the penalty box. No worries, just roll two D pairs, one of which had Deslauriers. Even this year I noticed defensemen joining the rush, the puck turning over and Deslauriers with the remaining Dman backing up and covering as if he'd been playing D all game. You'll see other forwards covering a pinching D, but when they do they look like forwards. Deslauriers just snaps into Dman mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 (edited) This team really needs a bump defensively. Bogo is the hard-nosed type they need. He's in line to help this team. Plus he'll be right there if the other team decides to snow our goaltender. I just hope this injury isn't something serious (i.e. I hope he didn't blow his knee). The Sabres have a sweettooth and Bogo is the sugar to fulfill their needs. Since Bylsma is such a line tweaker we might have to look into the eightball to see who Bogo is paired with. He's also got an awesome personality, occasionally making teammates snort with laughter. Edited November 2, 2015 by Hoss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 This team really needs a bump defensively. Bogo is the hard-nosed type they need. He's in line to help this team. Plus he'll be right there if the other team decides to snow our goaltender. I just hope this injury isn't something serious (i.e. I hope he didn't blow his knee). The Sabres have a sweettooth and Bogo is the sugar to fulfill their needs. Since Bylsma is such a line tweaker we might have to look into the eightball to see who Bogo is paired with. He's also got an awesome personality, occasionally making teammates snort with laughter. I can wait for him to come back, the hero riding his white horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I know Gorges has his detractors, but I like the combination of he and Risto. Seems to be a good match and they've been pretty effective against some tough matchups. The McCabe/Franson combo has also looked like a pretty good complement. My question is what happens when Bogo comes back? If it's me, I stick with the above pairs, shift Pysyk to the left side and match him up with Zach. McCabe and Risto's maturation is actually creating some depth. When Bogo returns, I think he jumps pretty quickly into the top pair with Risto. Then Gorges-McCabe Then Franson-Pysyk, with Franson still getting #1 PP time (unless Bogo grabs it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I can wait for him to come back, the hero riding his white horse. A top-pairing dman is right under our nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I can wait for him to come back, the hero riding his white horse powder. fify :angel: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 Even when he's back our defence will still blow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 He'll definitely make our lines a little more exciting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 I wouldn't be surprised if Bogo got a lot of penalties for trippin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 He'll definitely make our lines a little more exciting And a modest guy. You rarely hear him tooting his own horn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 2, 2015 Report Share Posted November 2, 2015 And a modest guy. You rarely hear him tooting his own horn.Indeed, he's much more the type to rail against such rocky behavior My only concern is the misconducts he could get from so many high hits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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