CallawaySabres Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I have been hoping that I see a consistency that shows that this guy can be a number 1 for Buffalo but I just don't see it happening. He has his moments but let's face it, this team is thinking one of two things: 1) Trade Miller and all but assure yourself of a top 3 pick next year 2) Do everything they can to make Miller happy and have one hell of an off-season. I think we all know that they are leaning towards option 1 so I sure hope they have a solid plan to fill that tender spot eventually. I really don't think a lot people realize how valuable someone like Miller is to building a champion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I believe Enroth is a bridge to Ullmark/Makarov. I'm not concerned about the net tending for next season, it's the following season where I'd like to see a plan being executed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 By the time this team is ready to compete again Millers days in the league will be numebred. There are some solid goaltending prospects in the Sabres system.. but Enroth just isn't #1 material... Ya have to trade Miller and maintain the rebuild IMO. Way to late to turn back now. Your also not going to bring in any top FA's with this team... So until the youth they've brought in starts to show promise and the Sabres are a playoff team with the youth movement in place... going fishing for high profile players is a waste of time. Hopefully Miller can be traded for solid youth assets or picks or both to a team who is trying to win it all now and willing ot part with those assets for that chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Let's see him as a number one and we'll have an answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Beat me to it -- I was thinking about starting an Enroth thread. (If you feel like it, you might consider adding a poll, and asking whether people here think Enroth is good enough to be a #1 NHL goalie for a playoff team -- just a suggestion, as this is what I was thinking about doing.) I think that Miller is probably gone and that if they don't bring in another goalie during the summer, that will mean they are planning on tanking again next season -- because IMHO they can't be looking at Enroth and thinking that he can carry the mail next year for a team that is trying to get into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Let's see him as a number one and we'll have an answer. Exactly. While I don't think he's shown us enough to give us confidence in him as a number one, you never know what will happen if he becomes the full-time starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy22 Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I can not put my final hammer on enroth. It's a difficult job for a goalie to play ...wait 10 days...play again...wait 6 days play again...wait 12 days ... play again.. If I remember correctly when Miller was injured and he played many games in a row, he found his zone and was on top of his game night in and night out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 In Enroth we trust! #Tank2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mphs mike Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Enroth and Hackett next year and the management team will know what needs to be done for future goaltending needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny DangerFace Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I think enroth definitely has the potential to be a good starting goalie with a solid defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assquatch Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I'd like to see Enroth in enough games to see if he can adjust to cover the top of the net better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I think enroth definitely has the potential to be a good starting goalie with a solid defense. Numark, I love that avatar man, kudos to you for that one.................. :flirt: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I really don't think a lot people realize how valuable someone like Miller is to building a champion. Is it really the ONE thing that all Stanley Cup Champs excelled at? Many of the post lock out winners has goalies that just went on fantastic runs during the playoffs and may not even be considered franchise goalies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Is it really the ONE thing that all Stanley Cup Champs excelled at? Many of the post lock out winners has goalies that just went on fantastic runs during the playoffs and may not even be considered franchise goalies. Definitely. It's all about the defense and the system for goaltenders lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Is it really the ONE thing that all Stanley Cup Champs excelled at? Many of the post lock out winners has goalies that just went on fantastic runs during the playoffs and may not even be considered franchise goalies. But all Stanley Cup teams have legitimate starting gt. Washington failed at winning playoffs because of crap gt, Philly too. Niemi, Crawford, fleury, Thomas all were good and all but Thomas have been good since. Quick has been okay since. I think you need a gt that can play at a higher level and I think Miller gives you that option. I think Enroth is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I'm an old-school guy who believes a team should have an upper-echelon goalie. I like Jhonas. Best back-up this team has had since Marty, may even be good enough to be a decent NHL starter on a lockdown team like the Blues. But he is not the answer for this team long-term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FolignosJock Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Enroth is an ok backup tender. Not a starter. Never should be. He will make sure of the tank for next season if he is the starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I see it as: Philly_average_GT < Enroth < Miller. I think Enroth tops out around where Miller is most years, but if I were fantasty betting I'd Enroth being Marty Biron 1.9 (not 2.0 because Enroth is too short, hey-oooh). He'll be good enough as a backup that people will think he's a starter, but when given the job he'll just barely not be good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 He'll be good enough as a backup that people will think he's a starter, but when given the job he'll just barely not be good enough. This. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 If Miller is traded there is most likely a goalie coming back. For example a trade with St. Louis......Halak or Eliot starts over Enroth. Halak is straight up better. Ad Halak. Elliot is about equal...but more experience and size. Ad...Elliot Most trade scenarios I see this playing out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 If Miller is traded there is most likely a goalie coming back. For example a trade with St. Louis......Halak or Eliot starts over Enroth. Halak is straight up better. Ad Halak. Elliot is about equal...but more experience and size. Ad...Elliot Most trade scenarios I see this playing out. Halak and/or Elliott are UFAs. So we could easily ship them off or not resign them in the offseason. If the team brings one back and doesn't move them, they might not start either simply because they may not be in the plans going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 This organization should be looking for a young goalie coming back in at least one of the fire sale trades. And using one of our many seconds to grab another. Someone to compete with Enroth and Hackett now and someone to compete with Ullmark and Peterson in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 This organization should be looking for a young goalie coming back in at least one of the fire sale trades. And using one of our many seconds to grab another. Someone to compete with Enroth and Hackett now and someone to compete with Ullmark and Peterson in the future. Disagree, especially on the 2nd part. We should be drafting good solid scoring forwards with the 2nd round picks. No reason to draft GT when we have 3 already in the system showing potential. They should do what they did last year and draft a GT in the 4th or later rounds. For isntance Cal Petersen in the 5th round last year is exactly the type of thing to look for. Linus Ullmark was a 6th rounder. Miller was a 5th rounder. As for trades, if that was an add on (a decent young gt) than fine. If it is a major piece (Miller for Allen and a late pick (3rd or later)) than screw that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric William Richardson Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 I believe in Enroth. It's very hard to pass judgement. for the most part he has a team playing in front of him that has gone through two coaches, is not very good, and is learning how to win. He plays every once in a while and when he has the team has left him high and dry for the most part. When he has come in during millers injury or during the world games for his home nation he has been very good when given a regular role. Trade Miller and extend Enroth for two years. If he does not pan out we have a plethora of goaltenders in the system. But we have to be fair and give him at least the rest of the season after miller is gone to prove he can do this on a constant basis. He has never been the number one guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted January 24, 2014 Report Share Posted January 24, 2014 Disagree, especially on the 2nd part. We should be drafting good solid scoring forwards with the 2nd round picks. No reason to draft GT when we have 3 already in the system showing potential. They should do what they did last year and draft a GT in the 4th or later rounds. For isntance Cal Petersen in the 5th round last year is exactly the type of thing to look for. Linus Ullmark was a 6th rounder. Miller was a 5th rounder. As for trades, if that was an add on (a decent young gt) than fine. If it is a major piece (Miller for Allen and a late pick (3rd or later)) than screw that. You want us to pick forwards with every draft pick we have? I would love to pick up thatcher Demko this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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