Huckleberry Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) I think we are fine with our goalie prospects with makarov and Ullmark, and hacket after that. Even Neuvirth might work out well for us. Edited April 11, 2014 by Heimdall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Good on ya, Ted. Let this be the end of the hangers-on, dead-enders and former Sabres who need a job. :thumbsup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 With regard to Scott, I think Nolan is really trying to salvage the guy's career. Post suspension, Scott was penalized virtually every time he hit someone. Every time. I doubt that Scott will ever be a complete hockey player, but Nolan is trying to teach him how to play without the rough stuff. Personally, I do not think he has much value outside of intimidation, but if it is only going to cost the team, and ultimately run him out of the league, what is the point. Noble but will not likely work for the guy. Charitable or not, Scott has been a much better player out there. I think he hasn't been asked to be anything but a goon for years. No matter Nolan's motivation, he's been asking more of Scott and Big John is responding admirably. He'll be a casualty of the rebuild and will be displaced at some point, but geez, you gotta love the imagination of Nolan in even seeing that Scott was capable of more, and the effort Scott has put in to improve. He's always been respectable with the puck along the boards when the pile was stationary, and a decent passer to move the puck up ice. In recent weeks he's been much better positionally and has been hustling a lot more to make sure he keeps position. I think they've been working on his skating and conditioning. Let him work out with Myers- the Big Guys Club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I guess I don't understand getting rid of Corsi. Nolan should have every right to bring in his own guys, it just doesn't make sense to me. I don't consider "just because" to be a particularly strong reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I guess I don't understand getting rid of Corsi. Nolan should have every right to bring in his own guys, it just doesn't make sense to me. I don't consider "just because" to be a particularly strong reason. Do we really know if Corsi was that good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) Do we really know if Corsi was that good? Nope. We also don't know if he's bad. All I know is we haven't had a goaltending problem in my entire adult life. I'm not saying that's because of Corsi, I'm just not sure what he's done to earn a firing. Edited April 11, 2014 by TrueBluePhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Nope. We also don't know if he's bad. All I know is we haven't had a goaltending problem in my entire adult life. I'm not saying that's because of Corsi, I'm just not sure what he's done to earn a firing. Part of the old regime. That's just how this stuff works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Nope. We also don't know if he's bad. All I know is we haven't had a goaltending problem in my entire adult life. I'm not saying that's because of Corsi, I'm just not sure what he's done to earn a firing. The mustache would be enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I guess that's what losing the interim tag means. You get to pick your staff. Fair enough. I'm fine with Ted as coach as long as the Sabres are team of AHL third liners. Do I think he has the head to match wits with Babcock and Quineville? Well at this point that hardly matters....On the chessboard Nolan only has pawns, the better coaches have major pieces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Hamilton is hypothesizing that Nolan wants Irbe in as goaltender coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Do we really know if Corsi was that good? Exactly. No one here has any freakin' idea as to whether Corsi was any good as a coach. Everyone knows they named a stat after him -- but that's all we know. I guess that's what losing the interim tag means. You get to pick your staff. Fair enough. I'm fine with Ted as coach as long as the Sabres are team of AHL third liners. Do I think he has the head to match wits with Babcock and Quineville? Well at this point that hardly matters....On the chessboard Nolan only has pawns, the better coaches have major pieces. It would be nice, and fair, to give him a chance with a real NHL team though, innit? He did pretty well with the Hasek Sabres and the mid-90s Islanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) Exactly. No one here has any freakin' idea as to whether Corsi was any good as a coach. Everyone knows they named a stat after him -- but that's all we know. I'm going to be a bit contrarian: do you think it's possible to judge the quality of a coach based on his team's results? If so, can you apply this to position coaches? Edit: personally, especially in hockey, I think players are about 90% of the equation. But we've had such a long run of goaltending success that I don't think it's insane to think Corsi contributed. Edited April 11, 2014 by TrueBluePhD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'm going to be a bit contrarian: do you think it's possible to judge the quality of a coach based on his team's results? If so, can you apply this to position coaches? Edit: personally, especially in hockey, I think players are about 90% of the equation. But we've had such a long run of goaltending success that I don't think it's insane to think Corsi contributed. He did alright considering the average material he had to work with. :ph34r: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kishoph Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 (edited) What will they do without the Teppo Numminem coached "power play" ? Edited April 11, 2014 by kishoph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastPommerFan Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I'm going to be a bit contrarian: do you think it's possible to judge the quality of a coach based on his team's results? If so, can you apply this to position coaches? Edit: personally, especially in hockey, I think players are about 90% of the equation. But we've had such a long run of goaltending success that I don't think it's insane to think Corsi contributed. How long has he been the coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Supposedly Corsi developed his number to gauge the amount of work a goalie was getting. Meanwhile, Ryan Miller would be a skeleton come April and May year after year. That was reason enough in my mind to fire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Supposedly Corsi developed his number to gauge the amount of work a goalie was getting. Meanwhile, Ryan Miller would be a skeleton come April and May year after year. That was reason enough in my mind to fire him. Hold up there. One* of my two constant criticisms of Ruff--and I did!--was that he didn't manage his goalies correctly. Why is this on Corsi now? *The other was that he juggled lines too frequently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 How long has he been the coach? Apparently since 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Dwight Drane Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Hold up there. One* of my two constant criticisms of Ruff--and I did!--was that he didn't manage his goalies correctly. Why is this on Corsi now? *The other was that he juggled lines too frequently. If that is your claim to fame and you can't convince your coach that he needs to space Miller more often as he melts in front of your eyes with a giant workload year after year....what good is you? I guess we should look at how many goalies came through the system since 2001 and what they did. I also would resent that Darcy supposedly used the Corsi numbers to build his team, and that Corsi was always in the press box attached to Darcy's hip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted April 12, 2014 Report Share Posted April 12, 2014 Any word on Rip and George? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelo Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 What will they do without the Teppo Numminem coached "power play" ? I detect a note of cynicism here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted April 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 Any word on Rip and George? You know, there's something about Rip that bugs me. And it's this: The assignment of "NASCAR numbers" to rookies is stupid and demeaning. If they made the cut, or even if they get called up, let them pick the number that they wear. If some kid wants 9, let him have 9. There's no reason to arbitrarily give him 67 instead. That kid fought his whole life to get a shot. You do laundry. I've met Rip a few times, and I like him and I like his stories, but allowing him to control who wears what number is as stupid as his assignment "system" is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tondas Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 You know, there's something about Rip that bugs me. And it's this: The assignment of "NASCAR numbers" to rookies is stupid and demeaning. If they made the cut, or even if they get called up, let them pick the number that they wear. If some kid wants 9, let him have 9. There's no reason to arbitrarily give him 67 instead. That kid fought his whole life to get a shot. You do laundry. I've met Rip a few times, and I like him and I like his stories, but allowing him to control who wears what number is as stupid as his assignment "system" is. Didn't know that was a Rip function. I agree with you wholeheartedly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 You know, there's something about Rip that bugs me. And it's this: The assignment of "NASCAR numbers" to rookies is stupid and demeaning. If they made the cut, or even if they get called up, let them pick the number that they wear. If some kid wants 9, let him have 9. There's no reason to arbitrarily give him 67 instead. That kid fought his whole life to get a shot. You do laundry. I've met Rip a few times, and I like him and I like his stories, but allowing him to control who wears what number is as stupid as his assignment "system" is. Mildly agitated eleven is almost as good as angry eleven. And I agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted April 13, 2014 Report Share Posted April 13, 2014 You know, there's something about Rip that bugs me. And it's this: The assignment of "NASCAR numbers" to rookies is stupid and demeaning. If they made the cut, or even if they get called up, let them pick the number that they wear. If some kid wants 9, let him have 9. There's no reason to arbitrarily give him 67 instead. That kid fought his whole life to get a shot. You do laundry. I've met Rip a few times, and I like him and I like his stories, but allowing him to control who wears what number is as stupid as his assignment "system" is. Absolutely hate that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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