LGR4GM Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Boyes passed his physical and is on the plane to NYC. Connolly still sucks and I dont see this getting him going and i dont know why Boyes vanek and stafford arent on a line... even scoring sucks (because it ='s no scoring) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 When Max went to ATL. In a big way too. Yeah dude tore it up right outta the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 It's safe to say that the "most people online at once" record for SabreSpace will not fall today. It was set last deadline day at 3:52 -- 840 people. I don't think it was really threatened today, not surprisingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Yeah, I figure that with the upgrades at wing there isn't room for Gerbe. And I only added Byron in deference to the fact that he and Adam are the only two centers in Portland with any shot of playing at the next level. Most teams have a smurf somewhere on the roster. I am comfortable with our token smurf being Ennis. Ideally I'd like to see Goose, Hecht and Pommers gone simply because their role can be done by less spendy players freeing up more cap room for an all star or two. Realistically, I don't see any team swallowing those salaries though. And I am comfortable with them being role players on the team. It should allow the top 6 players to exert more influence in the locker romm and on the ice. The group I posted in the OP isn't an ideal group but I think the wingers have contender potential. Now we need a center and a PP D-man with contender potential. As far as the D group, I am not sold on Shaone. First, I have a hard time spelling his name. Second, his play has been less than impressive all year, although he and Weber seem to be forming a decent pairing, playing a defense-first, simple game. I think the pairing with Myers was a mismatch. Leopold played out of his head the first three months, but has come back to earth. Shakira could be the next Brian Campbell or the next Jean Luc Grand-Pierre. Butler is driving me batty. He's not particularly good at anything: he 's not offensive, not defensive and doesn't hit. He's Nathan Paetsch. Montador is a slightly more reliable Butler now that he no longer hits or fights. Gaustad must have convinced him that fighting would be bad for their post-hockey modeling careers. In summation, I think our defense is in need of some help. Myers, Weber and Leopold are legit. The rest are simply parts. Get better parts if you can. I would cream my jeans if we pickled up a legit PP QB to man the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 As far as the D group, I am not sold on Shaone. First, I have a hard time spelling his name. Second, his play has been less than impressive all year, although he and Weber seem to be forming a decent pairing, playing a defense-first, simple game. I think the pairing with Myers was a mismatch. Leopold played out of his head the first three months, but has come back to earth. Shakira could be the next Brian Campbell or the next Jean Luc Grand-Pierre. Butler is driving me batty. He's not particularly good at anything: he 's not offensive, not defensive and doesn't hit. He's Nathan Paetsch. Montador is a slightly more reliable Butler now that he no longer hits or fights. Gaustad must have convinced him that fighting would be bad for their post-hockey modeling careers. In summation, I think our defense is in need of some help. Myers, Weber and Leopold are legit. The rest are simply parts. Get better parts if you can. I would cream my jeans if we pickled up a legit PP QB to man the point. I can't really disagree with any of this. I suppose I could put a half-hearted effort into it just for entertainment purposes. :death: :death: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wonderbread Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Gene, I went with "######" with. You stumped me. Now I am intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 My guess is they sit Gerbe? :thumbdown: Edit: I'm sure lost somewhere in 13 pages is this very topic; forgive me for not digging through it all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 On paper, I like what you are doing here, but I think we need to change a few more bodies (Hecht and/or Pommers and/or Gaustad) to really change the culture in the locker room. I notice an absence of smurfs in your lineup, which I like, but forgive me if I choke when you say Byron. The guy weighs a buck fifty. He would be incapable of playing in an outdoor game, because the wind would only allow him to skate in one direction. He means well and tries hard, but is smaller than many 15 year old Junior C players. I am starting to have my reservations about Ennis. I like his game, but he is so slight that he has to avoid all contact. That stuff may work in the first half of the season, but as the playoffs get nearer the ice gets smaller. Its hard to be an effective player when you are limited to the perimeter. Just ask Connolly. Ennis has been really good about dodging contact to this point, but I am deathly afraid one of these days he will get caught with his head down and that will be the end of it. It happened to E. Stall, it could happen to little Tyler. Not even close to being right. He hits. He flattened someone the other night and never shys away from fighting for the puck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 How hurt/out of shape can he be? He's scored 16 points in his last 17, and would have had the game tying goal last night but Backes hit it to him with a high stick. I guess I should have put this after the hurt or out of shape comment >>> <_< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJBuffalo Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 On paper, I like what you are doing here, but I think we need to change a few more bodies (Hecht and/or Pommers and/or Gaustad) to really change the culture in the locker room. I notice an absence of smurfs in your lineup, which I like, but forgive me if I choke when you say Byron. The guy weighs a buck fifty. He would be incapable of playing in an outdoor game, because the wind would only allow him to skate in one direction. He means well and tries hard, but is smaller than many 15 year old Junior C players. I am starting to have my reservations about Ennis. I like his game, but he is so slight that he has to avoid all contact. That stuff may work in the first half of the season, but as the playoffs get nearer the ice gets smaller. Its hard to be an effective player when you are limited to the perimeter. Just ask Connolly. Ennis has been really good about dodging contact to this point, but I am deathly afraid one of these days he will get caught with his head down and that will be the end of it. It happened to E. Stall, it could happen to little Tyler. Im not sure I agree with you. In last years tight playoff series vs the Bruins Ennis was our only playmaker! He was the only one creating space on the ice. He is stil very young and I agree needs to get to the dirty areas of the ice like he was for a 3 week stretch earlier this year. Surprisingly he wins plenty of battles in the corners. Bringing in another winger in Boyes should take some of the pressure off Vanek, Staff and Ennis and hopefully wake up Pominville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Not even close to being right. He hits. He flattened someone the other night and never shys away from fighting for the puck He will hit someone every once in a while, and he will stick fight on the boards for a puck, but there is a huge difference between throwing a hit when the recipient isn't expecting it from a smurf, and taking the puck into the dirty areas of the ice where you know you are going to get your clock cleaned and absorbing a hit to make a play. He doesn't do that. He floats on the perimeter looking to make a play. I don't buy the Max comparisons but I am worried about where his game is going. I wish I knew what Briere looked like his first couple years in the league. That's the direction I hoped ennis would go, but his game hasn't really progressed this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 He will hit someone every once in a while, and he will stick fight on the boards for a puck, but there is a huge difference between throwing a hit when the recipient isn't expecting it from a smurf, and taking the puck into the dirty areas of the ice where you know you are going to get your clock cleaned and absorbing a hit to make a play. He doesn't do that. He floats on the perimeter looking to make a play. I don't buy the Max comparisons but I am worried about where his game is going. I wish I knew what Briere looked like his first couple years in the league. That's the direction I hoped ennis would go, but his game hasn't really progressed this year. Briere did not have his breakout season until he was 24. Ennis just turned 21 at the start of this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Im not sure I agree with you. In last years tight playoff series vs the Bruins Ennis was our only playmaker! He was the only one creating space on the ice. He is stil very young and I agree needs to get to the dirty areas of the ice like he was for a 3 week stretch earlier this year. Surprisingly he wins plenty of battles in the corners. Bringing in another winger in Boyes should take some of the pressure off Vanek, Staff and Ennis and hopefully wake up Pominville. That was last year. He was an unknown then. Now that teams have seen him they seem to have learned how to defend him. Add in the unwillingness to go to the dirty areas and he is not as effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Briere did not have his breakout season until he was 24. Ennis just turned 21 at the start of this season. I wasn't expecting 90 points out of him, but I was hoping to see more consistency and effectiveness than I have seen to this point. He has an amazing skill set. He just needs to learn to use it to generate points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROC Sabres Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Yeah dude tore it up right outta the NHL. Ink. I like you. Don't be that guy. Just messing with you. But he did do a hell of a job in the one year he was in a "new scene". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BetweenThePipes00 Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I don't buy the Max comparisons but I am worried about where his game is going. I wish I knew what Briere looked like his first couple years in the league. That's the direction I hoped ennis would go, but his game hasn't really progressed this year. This is something I have been thinking about ... you are not the first to see some of Briere in Ennis, and I think it is probably a good comparison. Thing is, many also have talked about Ennis as if he is borderline untouchable and a big part of the future ... well, Briere was 24 when he had his first good season in PHX (32 G, 60 pts ... and remember he was waived during the next season) and 26 when he played his first full season with the Sabres in 2003-04 and showed a glimpse of what was to come after the lockout. So, If Ennis=Briere, can the Sabres afford to wait until he is 26 for him to develop? Keep in mind Ryan Miller will be 35 years old at that point. Point is, if Ennis is a piece that can be used to get better up the middle, I say they need to be willing to deal him. They have to view building of a true Cup contender through the window of Ryan Miller's career. (If you don't think he is the guy to win you one, well, that's another discussion, but obviously they believe in him.) So with all the wingers the Sabres have now and have coming up, if Ennis is the most trade-able commodity, they need to turn him into something that makes them better ASAP. He could be Briere ... he could even be Marty St. Louis (who was 28! before he had a year with more than 40 pts but then obviously blew up) ... but it is going to take a while. The little guys seem to take a little longer, and keep in mind the game seems to be sliding back toward the pre-lockout grind. There is probably a better chance he WILL turn into something closer to Max ... Not saying I would give him away for just anyone, but if someone wants him in a deal for a true #1 center or even someone the equivilent of Roy, I would not balk assuming the rest of the deal is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korab rules Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I can't really disagree with any of this. I suppose I could put a half-hearted effort into it just for entertainment purposes. :death: :death: We agree? What fun is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sloth Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 That was last year. He was an unknown then. Now that teams have seen him they seem to have learned how to defend him. Add in the unwillingness to go to the dirty areas and he is not as effective. I'm sorry, but how many times have you watched Ennis play? The guy makes his own teammates look super slow. His hands are insanely fast, and he is very quick. Ennis has been doing a great job of getting the puck deep into the other team's zone and buying time for the Sabres to get positioned. Stats won't tell you that. Ennis has an "unwillingness to go to the dirty areas?" Give me a break. He is often the first Sabre to enter a "dirty area." Ennis has been playing well for the Sabres, and he has a lot of potential. Remember, Ennis is only 21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calvin Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I'm sorry, but how many times have you watched Ennis play? The guy makes his own teammates look super slow. His hands are insanely fast, and he is very quick. Ennis has been doing a great job of getting the puck deep into the other team's zone and buying time for the Sabres to get positioned. Stats won't tell you that. Ennis has an "unwillingness to go to the dirty areas?" Give me a break. He is often the first Sabre to enter a "dirty area." Ennis has been playing well for the Sabres, and he has a lot of potential. Remember, Ennis is only 21. agreed. my only issue with Ennis is overhandling the puck, and then losing it creating a turnover going the other way, quick. and that is something with experience he will overcome, he shows more of a willingness to learn than say Max, who till the end stubbornly decided to play one way, his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 I'm sorry, but how many times have you watched Ennis play? The guy makes his own teammates look super slow. His hands are insanely fast, and he is very quick. Ennis has been doing a great job of getting the puck deep into the other team's zone and buying time for the Sabres to get positioned. Stats won't tell you that. Ennis has an "unwillingness to go to the dirty areas?" Give me a break. He is often the first Sabre to enter a "dirty area." Ennis has been playing well for the Sabres, and he has a lot of potential. Remember, Ennis is only 21. I would agree, I've seen Ennis hold on to the puck in the offensive zone countless times, while his linemates stand around and do nothing. Of course he ends up overhandling and losing the puck, if nobody wants to make themselves available for a pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 He will hit someone every once in a while, and he will stick fight on the boards for a puck, but there is a huge difference between throwing a hit when the recipient isn't expecting it from a smurf, and taking the puck into the dirty areas of the ice where you know you are going to get your clock cleaned and absorbing a hit to make a play. He doesn't do that. He floats on the perimeter looking to make a play. I don't buy the Max comparisons but I am worried about where his game is going. I wish I knew what Briere looked like his first couple years in the league. That's the direction I hoped ennis would go, but his game hasn't really progressed this year. Can't say I watched a lot of Yotes games back then, but Briere was a pp specialist in his 2nd stint w/ them. So, I doubt he spent a lot of time in the corners or camped just outside the blue paint. What you wrote just before the bolded part sounds an awful lot like Satan. I don't see too many Miro-like tendancies in his game. I also don't see much Max in him either. Wishful thinking on my part, but I see more St. Louis in his game than any of those other 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Seinfeld flashback. Is it "Brad Boys" or "Brad BOO-ees"? Someone said "Boy-ez" on TV last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR HOLLIDAY Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 agreed. my only issue with Ennis is overhandling the puck, and then losing it creating a turnover going the other way, quick. and that is something with experience he will overcome, he shows more of a willingness to learn than say Max, who till the end stubbornly decided to play one way, his way. I agree with you on the overhandling the puck. The problem I have with it is when I see he should just get the puck on the net, to often, like near the end of the Detroit game when he had a chance to get the puck on the net, he tried to make another move and ended up getting crunched and losing the puck instead of taking a shot and hoping for a rebound. But I like his determination and his skill set is great. Imagine him playing with a Kassian or a Foligno and how much more ice he will get with one of those bruisers opening up some lanes for him. Trading him at this point would be really short sighted, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Rick's due for a good new call. Here's Boyes in over the line, Boyes busting to the net, he scoooooooores! Bee bee bee bee bee bee bee bee bee bee bee BRAAAAADDDD BOYYYYYYYYYS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Rick's due for a good new call. Here's Boyes in over the line, Boyes busting to the net, he scoooooooores! Bee bee bee bee bee bee bee bee bee bee bee BRAAAAADDDD BOYYYYYYYYYS! i was thinking more "Ohhhhhhh my! Boyes will be Boyes!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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