Rumor: Tim Graham “Sources He has are strongly hinting this is the end for Kevyn Adams”

[Doohickie]

36 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Appert's last three years with the Amerks. 112-79-20-9. (.575) Won 4 of 7 playoff series. Made the final 4 in 22/23. His first year was shortened by COVID.

That's nice.  Now show it translates to NHL success.

[Doohickie]

 

[That Aud Smell]

9 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Appert's last three years with the Amerks. 112-79-20-9. (.575) Won 4 of 7 playoff series. Made the final 4 in 22/23. His first year was shortened by COVID.

Adams’ hand selected successor to Lindy. The architect of a chronically underperforming power play.

Can we please not?

(Pegula likely will.)

[GASabresIUFAN]

If Jarmo becomes the GM, he’ll select the coach.  

If they are going to do this, just go it already. Other teams are making moves, see the Jarry and Hughes trades.  No time like the present to get something done.  

[Scottysabres]

38 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

If Jarmo becomes the GM, he’ll select the coach.  

If they are going to do this, just go it already. Other teams are making moves, see the Jarry and Hughes trades.  No time like the present to get something done.  

“But it’s hard to make moves in today’s nhl”

[JohnC]

52 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

If Jarmo becomes the GM, he’ll select the coach.  

If they are going to do this, just go it already. Other teams are making moves, see the Jarry and Hughes trades.  No time like the present to get something done.  

Even if Jarmo becomes the GM, I don’t see a coaching change being made this season. 

[JohnC]

17 minutes ago, Scottysabres said:

“But it’s hard to make moves in today’s nhl”

It is harder for the Sabres to make big and consequential deals because so many players have Buffalo listed on their NTCs. When you become a scorned team because of your wretched reputation, the trade pool to consider is much smaller to draw from. Embarrassing reality. 

[LGR4GM]

In order to fix the culture you need to burn the front office and start over, that includes the coaching. 

[tom webster]

10 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

In order to fix the culture you need to burn the front office and start over, that includes the coaching. 

Generally I agree with this and understand why Appert would be thought of as unqualified. However, professional coaching is amongst the least predictive of all professions. So who knows?

[JohnC]

16 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

In order to fix the culture you need to burn the front office and start over, that includes the coaching. 

I don’t see a HC change this season even with a newly installed GM unless there is a team meltdown. Replacing the current GM is the priority, and then whatever follows be in the hands of someone who is more competent. 

[PromoTheRobot]

I'm looking forward to Monday when nothing happens and we all lose our minds. 😜

(It will more likely be Tuesday just to give everyone a chance to rest up from getting in late Monday from Seattle and Finland.)

Edited 4 hours ago by PromoTheRobot

[PASabreFan]

21 hours ago, JohnC said:

Any non-sober person who followed the Sabres recognized early on that Terry P was a virus that was infecting this plagued franchise. It didn't take much talent to come to that obvious conclusion early on. It's like saying that crap stinks. You may not be aware of it but most of us were aware of it as soon as he started acting like a drunken fool once he took over. 

Were you posting here then?

[PromoTheRobot]

 

 

[JohnC]

2 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

Were you posting here then?

Yes. It didn’t take long to recognize that he didn’t know what he was doing. The confusion in the organization started right away with the Lafontaine saga that ended with a settlement that included a non-disclosure clause.

The Pegula franchise has always been known for its instability and foolishness. The inexplicable hiring of KA to be the GM was odd, reckless and jaw dropping stupid. 
 

It really doesn’t take much talent to recognize stupendous incompetence. It’s there for everyone to see.

 

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

 

 

Everyone knows that I am a harsh critic of KA. However, that doesn’t mean 😪  I don’t have some empathy for the public flogging he is getting. He should never have been placed in the position that he was manifestly unqualified for. The worst part of his hiring is that it has been going on for so long. He never should have been hired for the position and he never should have accepted it when offered.

[Pimlach]

18 hours ago, Brawndo said:

The extra year may have prevented Adams from making a desperation move that would have set the franchise back even further 

Terry could have just said I want to approve all moves.  There was no need to extend him for these reasons. 

The extension was an act of good faith by Terry that Adams will have a job after this shakeup, or at a minimum, have one year of severance pay in the form of the extension.  

11 hours ago, Doohickie said:

That's nice.  Now show it translates to NHL success. power play.  

I lowered the bar. 

[Spoonman]

12 hours ago, Doohickie said:

 

Yep saw this. I was going to post,

‘70 curse. 

Hockey Guy is smhaaat.

 

[JP51]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

In order to fix the culture you need to burn the front office and start over, that includes the coaching. 

And scouts and scouting methods and over concept of what type of team it takes to be successful in today's NHL

[Demoted]

49 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Everyone knows that I am a harsh critic of KA. However, that doesn’t mean 😪  I don’t have some empathy for the public flogging he is getting. He should never have been placed in the position that he was manifestly unqualified for. The worst part of his hiring is that it has been going on for so long. He never should have been hired for the position and he never should have accepted it when offered.

You cash the paycheck you deserve the criticism. 

[JohnC]

11 minutes ago, Demoted said:

You cash the paycheck you deserve the criticism. 

Absolutely. That goes with the territory. That doesn't mean that one can't have some compassion for someone who most likely (hopefully) will lose his job.  

[Rhyno716]

Kevyn got that job because he fired tons of employees during the pandemic on the Pegulas behalf after Botterill stood his ground. So no I don't have much compassion for him.

[#freejame]

Kevyn Adams will get the same amount of empathy from me for losing his job as he has had for the fans during his tenure. 

[Flashsabre]

Hey Kevyn Adams:

[Pimlach]

2 hours ago, PASabreFan said:

Were you posting here then?

 

2 hours ago, JohnC said:

Yes. It didn’t take long to recognize that he didn’t know what he was doing. The confusion in the organization started right away with the Lafontaine saga that ended with a settlement that included a non-disclosure clause.

The Pegula franchise has always been known for its instability and foolishness. The inexplicable hiring of KA to be the GM was odd, reckless and jaw dropping stupid. 
 

It really doesn’t take much talent to recognize stupendous incompetence. It’s there for everyone to see.

I don't recall when you started posting @JohnC but I do recall you were 100% behind the Adams/Granato re-build plan which emphasized almost exclusively young players and draft and develop.  For awhile you were lock step with the Adams.  

It is nice that you have sympathy for him now, but this is a business, just as it was a business when he laid off a big portion of the staff. 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Pimlach

[JohnC]

4 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

 

I don't recall when you started posting @JohnC but I do recall you were 100% behind the Adams/Granato re-build plan which emphasized almost exclusively young players and draft and develop.  For awhile you were lock step with the Adams.  

It is nice that you have sympathy for him now, but this is a business, just as it was a business when he laid off a big portion of the staff. 

 

You didn't fully accurately read my response to @PASabreFan. I made it clear that it was evident almost from the start that Pegula was chaotically steering the franchise ship. He was constantly lurching back and forth with no foundational strategy to build upon. That's accurate. And I was an open Granato supporter. He took over for Krueger who was an unmitigated failure. Granato's talent was with working with young players. He was the right coach for young players. To be candid, I would rather have kept Granato than bring in Ruff. In my view, Granato was a scapegoat for a failed GM. He did his best with what he had to work with. 

I was never on board with KA. I've had scathing criticisms for him since he was bizarrely hired. And once he assumed the reins he had a publicly stated rebuild strategy to go mostly with their own drafted and develop approach. I'm not against emphasizing young players once that approach is established as policy. However, his execution has been dismal because he doesn't have the imagination and ability to successfully carry it out. 

I hope this clears up your misconception about my position. 

[PASabreFan]

I'm starting to get a little queasy about all this. I never wanted KA and won't miss him. But Terry has to be delighted by all the scorn directed at his GM.

Seriously, all we're going to do is send KA over the Falls with Thurman's helmet and expect both curses to lift?

It has to go much deeper than that.

I'm almost ready to root for a win tonight to officially save KA's job.

Another thing: let's say KA does get shitcanned. The team comes alive and makes the playoffs. How much credit does KA deserve?

Shrooms.

Edited 1 hour ago by PASabreFan