Adams: we have an elite D corps

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3 hours ago, dudacek said:

In 2006, Hank Tallinder had 43 hits, Teppo Numminen had 10.

The following year Teppo had 37 and Hank 26 (in 47 games)

Nick Lidstrom routinely put up 40-something hits a year.

Teams need physical defencemen, but idea you need to be physical to play good defence is utter fallacy.

Owen Power doesn’t need to punish anybody, he needs to use that reach, those feet and that vision to kill plays.

Hits and physicality are not the same thing.  They guys you mentioned knew how to muscle someone out of the crease or get their bodies in people’s way.  Power Ole’s people as they skate by and has no idea how to move someone out of the crease.

[Taro T]

3 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Hits and physicality are not the same thing.  They guys you mentioned knew how to muscle someone out of the crease or get their bodies in people’s way.  Power Ole’s people as they skate by and has no idea how to move someone out of the crease.

Was Power this bad at the defensive side of playing D as a youth and in college?  Serious question.

Wondering how much having an actual coach in his formative NHL years might've helped his development.

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18 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Was Power this bad at the defensive side of playing D as a youth and in college?  Serious question.

Wondering how much having an actual coach in his formative NHL years might've helped his development.

He was so much bigger that it didn't matter in college or lower levels.  

[Taro T]

5 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

He was so much bigger that it didn't matter in college or lower levels.  

So, giving him a real coach here, rather than a Wilford, would've been a good thing.

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Just now, Taro T said:

So, giving him a real coach here, rather than a Wilford, would've been a good thing.

Yes certainly, but also he has to have a willingness to engage physically.  I don't mean running around and hitting people just to hit them (Clifton).  I mean challenging a forward at the blueline,  clearing the crease, using his big frame to take away time and space from opponents.  So far in his career he is unwilling to engage physically.  No amount of coaching will fix a player unwilling to do what is necessary to get better on the ice. 

[Taro T]

10 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Yes certainly, but also he has to have a willingness to engage physically.  I don't mean running around and hitting people just to hit them (Clifton).  I mean challenging a forward at the blueline,  clearing the crease, using his big frame to take away time and space from opponents.  So far in his career he is unwilling to engage physically.  No amount of coaching will fix a player unwilling to do what is necessary to get better on the ice. 

You're never going to make Whimpy into Popeye.  But you can teach a guy how to at least not embarrass himself and eventually even become passable at that skill.

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29 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

He was so much bigger that it didn't matter in college or lower levels.  

Bigger and better than the other players. 

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9 minutes ago, Taro T said:

You're never going to make Whimpy into Popeye.  But you can teach a guy how to at least not embarrass himself and eventually even become passable at that skill.

It’s not turning Power into Popeye, it about Power willingness to do his job properly.  He isn’t good enough offensively to rely on offense alone like Karlsson.  He needs to become a 2 way defenseman or he’ll remain a drag on this team.