steveoath Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago Once GB are eliminated I’ll be cheering for Ras and Sweden. Quote
JoeSchmoe Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago 14 minutes ago, steveoath said: Once GB are eliminated I’ll be cheering for Ras and Sweden. GB still has a chance to qualify for the Olympics? Quote
Eleven Posted 11 hours ago Report Posted 11 hours ago (edited) 42 minutes ago, steveoath said: Once GB are eliminated I’ll be cheering for Ras and Sweden. I never understand your sports. Olympics: Four countries, but you call yourselves GB and not UK. Cricket: England and Wales are together but the others are separate. Soccer: All of them are separate. Some other sports: Ireland and NI are a unified team, but GB is still split into three. Can you get your king or minister of magic or whatever to fix this? It is confusing. Edited 11 hours ago by Eleven 1 2 1 Quote
Demoted Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago (edited) Good to see Dalhin will get some winning under his belt. Even though they won't win gold. Edited 10 hours ago by Demoted Quote
inkman Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Indabuff said: Trade him while his value is high! He’ll be next to ask to get out. I would have a long time ago if I was any player or prospect. I’d go so far to tell them pre draft don’t bother drafting me to you poverty loser franchise. 22 minutes ago, Demoted said: Good to see Dalhin will get some winning under his belt. Even though they won't win gold. Did they already play? Quote
Demoted Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 42 minutes ago, inkman said: Did they already play? Not till Feb 2026 Quote
steveoath Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago 2 hours ago, Eleven said: I never understand your sports. Olympics: Four countries, but you call yourselves GB and not UK. Cricket: England and Wales are together but the others are separate. Soccer: All of them are separate. Some other sports: Ireland and NI are a unified team, but GB is still split into three. Can you get your king or minister of magic or whatever to fix this? It is confusing. It’s a moot point. Turns out GB didn’t qualify- I was mixing up olympics and the IIHF worlds. Quote
darksabre Posted 8 hours ago Report Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, Indabuff said: Trade him while his value is high! Actually, they should consider it. Unless this team surprises us with a huge jump in production or they add some really compelling players, they are likely still several years away from even sniffing the playoffs. By the time they do, the window for them to win it with Dahlin here will be closing. He's a UFA summer of 2032, which isn't that long from now. The cost to keep him will be substantial. Probably too high to even entertain. Trading him now while he still has term could net a return that would reshape the franchise overnight... Edited 8 hours ago by darksabre 1 1 1 Quote
Thorny Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, darksabre said: Actually, they should consider it. Unless this team surprises us with a huge jump in production or they add some really compelling players, they are likely still several years away from even sniffing the playoffs. By the time they do, the window for them to win it with Dahlin here will be closing. He's a UFA summer of 2032, which isn't that long from now. The cost to keep him will be substantial. Probably too high to even entertain. Trading him now while he still has term could net a return that would reshape the franchise overnight... Making the playoffs is a year over year enterprise The average time spent out of the playoffs is one year. Being “years away” is a job security sales tactic, im sort of surprised more don’t realize that by now. Long rebuilds aren’t actually a thing - that’s nhl ea sports GM mode fodder. The nhl is a professional league not developmental: no one should fall for that. The few and far between “decade long” rebuilds we’ve seen are the exceptions that prove the rule - another term that should be frankly more familiar they Sabres haven’t made the playoffs because they haven’t chosen to. They’ve yet to make it the priority. people get there’s an active conflict of interest with the fans, right? The organization hasn’t had the same goals trading Dahlin only helps if you trade him for better players. And it only helps even then if you don’t care about, ya know…..THE most precious resource known to mankind in Time Edited 7 hours ago by Thorny 1 Quote
7+6=13 Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago Not surprising to anyone I'm sure, he's one of the best players in the world. Quote
LGR4GM Posted 7 hours ago Author Report Posted 7 hours ago 1 hour ago, darksabre said: Actually, they should consider it. Unless this team surprises us with a huge jump in production or they add some really compelling players, they are likely still several years away from even sniffing the playoffs. By the time they do, the window for them to win it with Dahlin here will be closing. He's a UFA summer of 2032, which isn't that long from now. The cost to keep him will be substantial. Probably too high to even entertain. Trading him now while he still has term could net a return that would reshape the franchise overnight... No it won't. We literally have done this before. How does Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, a vet cap dump and a 1st turn around the franchise? The going rate is good roster player, good prospect, some bonus player, and a 1st rounder. That ain't turning around ***** when the only good defender is Dahlin. Awful idea. Quote
darksabre Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: No it won't. We literally have done this before. How does Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, a vet cap dump and a 1st turn around the franchise? The going rate is good roster player, good prospect, some bonus player, and a 1st rounder. That ain't turning around ***** when the only good defender is Dahlin. Awful idea. I think a healthy Dahlin nets you much more substantial parts than a critically injured Eichel. Dahlin, to me, poses a dilemma. This team is basically only good when he's on the ice. They depend on him so much it's crippling them. What Dahlin brings by making everyone around him better isn't a nice little bonus, it's a necessity. The Sabres, as currently constituted, could not hope to compete without him. We all agree on that. But I think he's such a drain on resources that they will probably never be able to really compete with him either. Especially with all of the money they have committed to Power and Samuelsson. Something has to give or they're never going to be able to build a team. They'll have a collection of nice pieces, but it'll never get them anywhere. 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Posted 5 hours ago 12 minutes ago, darksabre said: I think a healthy Dahlin nets you much more substantial parts than a critically injured Eichel. Dahlin, to me, poses a dilemma. This team is basically only good when he's on the ice. They depend on him so much it's crippling them. What Dahlin brings by making everyone around him better isn't a nice little bonus, it's a necessity. The Sabres, as currently constituted, could not hope to compete without him. We all agree on that. But I think he's such a drain on resources that they will probably never be able to really compete with him either. Especially with all of the money they have committed to Power and Samuelsson. Something has to give or they're never going to be able to build a team. They'll have a collection of nice pieces, but it'll never get them anywhere. Is this a bit? If so it's boring. Quote
darksabre Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 37 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Is this a bit? If so it's boring. Not a bit. I don't expect anyone to agree with it, because who would want to, but I don't see the Sabres contending at any point in Dahlin's tenure here. Quote
LGR4GM Posted 2 hours ago Author Report Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, darksabre said: Not a bit. I don't expect anyone to agree with it, because who would want to, but I don't see the Sabres contending at any point in Dahlin's tenure here. "Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?" Quote
Indabuff Posted 56 minutes ago Report Posted 56 minutes ago 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: "Why don't you knock it off with them negative waves?" Geezus, is that a young Donald? Quote
DarthEbriate Posted 18 minutes ago Report Posted 18 minutes ago 5 hours ago, darksabre said: I think a healthy Dahlin nets you much more substantial parts than a critically injured Eichel. Dahlin, to me, poses a dilemma. This team is basically only good when he's on the ice. They depend on him so much it's crippling them. What Dahlin brings by making everyone around him better isn't a nice little bonus, it's a necessity. The Sabres, as currently constituted, could not hope to compete without him. We all agree on that. But I think he's such a drain on resources that they will probably never be able to really compete with him either. Especially with all of the money they have committed to Power and Samuelsson. Something has to give or they're never going to be able to build a team. They'll have a collection of nice pieces, but it'll never get them anywhere. So... move Power or Samuelsson (or buy him out while he's so cheap). The finances will work. In 2 years, at the halfway point of Dahlin's contract, his percentage of the cap will be 9.69%, which is very close to what Hedman's cap percentage was when Tampa won their back-to-back Cups (9.66% with a $7.875M salary to 81.5 cap ceiling. After that there will be 4 more seasons where the cap could be even higher with expansion. The resources will be there. Now, whether Adams/Pegula can effectively put that cap to reasonable use for the rest of the roster, I'll agree with you there. But Dahlin making money isn't really a negative. The no one wins the Cup with a $10M/year salary days are long over; Eichel busted that. Then Bob did. And this year someone will do it again. Quote
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