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42 minutes ago, steveoath said:

Once GB are eliminated I’ll be cheering for Ras and Sweden. 

I never understand your sports.

Olympics:  Four countries, but you call yourselves GB and not UK.

Cricket:  England and Wales are together but the others are separate.

Soccer:  All of them are separate.

Some other sports:  Ireland and NI are a unified team, but GB is still split into three.

Can you get your king or minister of magic or whatever to fix this?  It is confusing.

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15 minutes ago, Indabuff said:

Trade him while his value is high!

He’ll be next to ask to get out. I would have a long time ago if I was any player or prospect. I’d go so far to tell them pre draft don’t bother drafting me to you poverty loser franchise. 

22 minutes ago, Demoted said:

Good to see Dalhin will get some winning under his belt. Even though they won't win gold.

Did they already play? 

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2 hours ago, Eleven said:

I never understand your sports.

Olympics:  Four countries, but you call yourselves GB and not UK.

Cricket:  England and Wales are together but the others are separate.

Soccer:  All of them are separate.

Some other sports:  Ireland and NI are a unified team, but GB is still split into three.

Can you get your king or minister of magic or whatever to fix this?  It is confusing.

It’s a moot point. Turns out GB didn’t qualify- I was mixing up olympics and the IIHF worlds. 

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Indabuff said:

Trade him while his value is high!

Actually, they should consider it. 

Unless this team surprises us with a huge jump in production or they add some really compelling players, they are likely still several years away from even sniffing the playoffs. 

By the time they do, the window for them to win it with Dahlin here will be closing. He's a UFA summer of 2032, which isn't that long from now. The cost to keep him will be substantial. Probably too high to even entertain.

Trading him now while he still has term could net a return that would reshape the franchise overnight...

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1 hour ago, darksabre said:

Actually, they should consider it. 

Unless this team surprises us with a huge jump in production or they add some really compelling players, they are likely still several years away from even sniffing the playoffs. 

By the time they do, the window for them to win it with Dahlin here will be closing. He's a UFA summer of 2032, which isn't that long from now. The cost to keep him will be substantial. Probably too high to even entertain.

Trading him now while he still has term could net a return that would reshape the franchise overnight...

Making the playoffs is a year over year enterprise 

The average time spent out of the playoffs is one year. Being “years away” is a job security sales tactic, im sort of surprised more don’t realize that by now. Long rebuilds aren’t actually a thing - that’s nhl ea sports GM mode fodder. The nhl is a professional league not developmental: no one should fall for that. The few and far between “decade long” rebuilds we’ve seen are the exceptions that prove the rule - another term that should be frankly more familiar 

they Sabres haven’t made the playoffs because they haven’t chosen to. They’ve yet to make it the priority.

people get there’s an active conflict of interest with the fans, right? The organization hasn’t had the same goals 

trading Dahlin only helps if you trade him for better players. And it only helps even then if you don’t care about, ya know…..THE most precious resource known to mankind in Time

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1 hour ago, darksabre said:

Actually, they should consider it. 

Unless this team surprises us with a huge jump in production or they add some really compelling players, they are likely still several years away from even sniffing the playoffs. 

By the time they do, the window for them to win it with Dahlin here will be closing. He's a UFA summer of 2032, which isn't that long from now. The cost to keep him will be substantial. Probably too high to even entertain.

Trading him now while he still has term could net a return that would reshape the franchise overnight...

No it won't. We literally have done this before. How does Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, a vet cap dump and a 1st turn around the franchise? The going rate is good roster player, good prospect, some bonus player, and a 1st rounder. That ain't turning around ***** when the only good defender is Dahlin. 

Awful idea. 

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1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

No it won't. We literally have done this before. How does Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, a vet cap dump and a 1st turn around the franchise? The going rate is good roster player, good prospect, some bonus player, and a 1st rounder. That ain't turning around ***** when the only good defender is Dahlin. 

Awful idea. 

I think a healthy Dahlin nets you much more substantial parts than a critically injured Eichel. 

Dahlin, to me, poses a dilemma. This team is basically only good when he's on the ice. They depend on him so much it's crippling them. What Dahlin brings by making everyone around him better isn't a nice little bonus, it's a necessity. 

The Sabres, as currently constituted, could not hope to compete without him. We all agree on that. But I think he's such a drain on resources that they will probably never be able to really compete with him either. Especially with all of the money they have committed to Power and Samuelsson. 

Something has to give or they're never going to be able to build a team. They'll have a collection of nice pieces, but it'll never get them anywhere. 

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12 minutes ago, darksabre said:

I think a healthy Dahlin nets you much more substantial parts than a critically injured Eichel. 

Dahlin, to me, poses a dilemma. This team is basically only good when he's on the ice. They depend on him so much it's crippling them. What Dahlin brings by making everyone around him better isn't a nice little bonus, it's a necessity. 

The Sabres, as currently constituted, could not hope to compete without him. We all agree on that. But I think he's such a drain on resources that they will probably never be able to really compete with him either. Especially with all of the money they have committed to Power and Samuelsson. 

Something has to give or they're never going to be able to build a team. They'll have a collection of nice pieces, but it'll never get them anywhere. 

Is this a bit? If so it's boring. 

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37 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

Is this a bit? If so it's boring. 

Not a bit. I don't expect anyone to agree with it, because who would want to, but I don't see the Sabres contending at any point in Dahlin's tenure here. 

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