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37 minutes ago, JustOneParade said:

This is an understated comment. I was considering the Ravens/Chiefs/Bills* division schedules yesterday. The Ravens play four games against the Steelers and Bengals. The Chiefs four games against the Chargers and Broncos. The Bills four games against (pick two) Pats/Jets/Fins. Advantage: Buffalo. Last night's win is obviously huge if playoff seeding comes down to head-to-head and/or conference record.

*The supposition is that these are the three best AFC teams. But the NFL is weird.

Until proven otherwise, the supposition is a good one.

The thing that might be a fly in the Bills ointment as far as getting the 1 seed is the Texasses play in a division that is at least as bad as the East and very possibly even worse.  The results of the Dolt Fishies game not withstanding.  😉 

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3 minutes ago, Taro T said:

Until proven otherwise, the supposition is a good one.

The thing that might be a fly in the Bills ointment as far as getting the 1 seed is the Texasses play in a division that is at least as bad as the East and very possibly even worse.  The results of the Dolt Fishies game not withstanding.  😉 

The Tex-***** will not be near the #1 seed.  Who do they play outside the division - not sure, but this part of the schedule will keep them in the 10 to 12 win range.

What a game.  Play of the game has to be Oliver poking it out with 2 or 3 minutes left.  This is what the NFL craves.

Of the big 3 (may have to include Cincy at some point this year) in the AFC only the Bills are on 1 win after week 1.

I think the Chiefs will have a down year and will end up a wildcard.  Kelce is obviously distracted.  Mahomes does not look right - just a bit off in game 1.  All those close wins last year was an indication of them faltering a bit.  I don't think the same luck will prevail this season.

Not sure how it would all work out, but I would love to see a Bills - Ravans AFCCG in Orchard Park.

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24 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

A post-game caller to WGR - who was surprisingly sober and coherent - observed that Harbaugh screwed up how he called his timeouts at the end. He basically played right into how the Bills wanted him to exhaust all three timeouts and let the Bills have a chance to kick a walk-off field goal. If Harbaugh had called his last timeout with maybe 12 seconds to go, the Bills would have been forced to kick during that timeout because they would not have had time to run another kneel down play and get the field goal off (although maybe then the Bills would have run a time-wasting pass play?).

The 'Battered Bills Fan' in me was glad that Coleman got tripped up at the end. The Bills would have had to make the 2-point conversion then kick off to the Ravens putting the ball back in Lamar's hands with however many seconds remained and all (?) their timeouts. Feels like we've been down that road before and it didn't end well.

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7 minutes ago, JustOneParade said:

The 'Battered Bills Fan' in me was glad that Coleman got tripped up at the end. The Bills would have had to make the 2-point conversion then kick off to the Ravens putting the ball back in Lamar's hands with however many seconds remained and all (?) their timeouts. Feels like we've been down that road before and it didn't end well.

It worked out, but in an alternate universe where McClappy leaves the first extra point on the board and doesn't go for two, and continues to kick the PATs, the Bills would have been at 41 points without the field goal.  But then the Bills would be in the opposite situation toward the end:  Up by less than a field goal and in a position to kill the clock.  Changes the dynamic of the game.  It all worked out, but I thought that was awful game management to keep doubling down (literally) and going for the two-pointers. 

If they just moved on after the first unconverted 2-point attempt and kicked PATs thereafter, they would have been tied at the end and each team would be driving for a game winning FG.  What happens then?

I mean, we got the desired result, but if the Bills coaching staff had made "better" decisions after touchdowns they might have lost.  They won by playing wrong.

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2 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

It worked out, but in an alternate universe where McClappy leaves the first extra point on the board and doesn't go for two, and continues to kick the PATs, the Bills would have been at 41 points without the field goal.  But then the Bills would be in the opposite situation toward the end:  Up by less than a field goal and in a position to kill the clock.  Changes the dynamic of the game.  It all worked out, but I thought that was awful game management to keep doubling down (literally) and going for the two-pointers. 

If they just moved on after the first unconverted 2-point attempt and kicked PATs thereafter, they would have been tied at the end and each team would be driving for a game winning FG.  What happens then?

I mean, we got the desired result, but if the Bills coaching staff had made "better" decisions after touchdowns they might have lost.  They won by playing wrong.

Or how about if the last two point conversion actually works? Baltimore gets the ball with around 2 minutes left in a tie game, only needing a field goal to win. The whole thing is just a perfect (and lucky) sequence of events that resulted in the perfect ending. 

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21 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:

Not sure how it would all work out, but I would love to see a Bills - Ravans AFCCG in Orchard Park.

For my part, I would not relish a playoff rematch with the Ravens. They are just a bad matchup for the Bills. Plus they have Lamar.

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27 minutes ago, Sabres Fan in NS said:

 

Not sure how it would all work out, but I would love to see a Bills - Ravans AFCCG in Orchard Park.

Not me, I would love to pound the crap out of KC in the AFC championship game, preferable at home in the Bills last game ever at Highmark.  

Beating Reid and Mahommes in the playoffs, and KC being an old AFL Rival, that would be fantastic.

After that bring home the Lombardi Trophy! 

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10 minutes ago, shrader said:

Or how about if the last two point conversion actually works? Baltimore gets the ball with around 2 minutes left in a tie game, only needing a field goal to win. The whole thing is just a perfect (and lucky) sequence of events that resulted in the perfect ending. 

Oh yeah, all the "alternate universe" scenarios are mind numbing.

We should just take the W and never speak of this game again.

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16 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

Not me, I would love to pound the crap out of KC in the AFC championship game, preferable at home in the Bills last game ever at Highmark.  

Beating Reid and Mahommes in the playoffs, and KC being an old AFL Rival, that would be fantastic.

After that bring home the Lombardi Trophy! 

I don't want KC in another consecutive AFC CG. F that.

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1 hour ago, JustOneParade said:

This is an understated comment. I was considering the Ravens/Chiefs/Bills* division schedules yesterday. The Ravens play four games against the Steelers and Bengals. The Chiefs four games against the Chargers and Broncos. The Bills four games against (pick two) Pats/Jets/Fins. Advantage: Buffalo. Last night's win is obviously huge if playoff seeding comes down to head-to-head and/or conference record.

*The supposition is that these are the three best AFC teams. But the NFL is weird.

Also, the Bills are matched up against the NFC South this year, which is a division that shouldn't even exist in pro sports.  The Chiefs and Chargers have it tougher with the NFCE, and the Ravens have to deal with the stacked NFCN.

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Was the D shot handed and need a lot of work? Yes

Will they get better? Yes

Did they make big plays when they needed them most? Yes

Did the Bills stand in against their toughest opponent this year and find a way to win when it seemed impossible? Yes

I read last night that they have one of the easiest schedules in the league the rest of the way.

I was encouraged with Coleman and Palmer and how they might transform this offence as the year progresses.

If they can stay healthy until week 7 then I think things will change on the defensive side of the ball.

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33 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

Did the Bills stand in against their toughest opponent this year and find a way to win when it seemed impossible? Yes

Nice recap/overview - I like the Q&A format too.

As for the item above: The Eagles may want a word. But I take your point. I think that the Eagles and Ravens have the best two rosters in the NFL.

Effin' birds.

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4 minutes ago, That Aud Smell said:

Nice recap/overview - I like the Q&A format too.

As for the item above: The Eagles may want a word. But I take your point. I think that the Eagles and Ravens have the best two rosters in the NFL.

Effin' birds.

Nope you are right. I had a brain fart and forgot the Eagles game. That will be their biggest challenge. Hopefully the D is all back and better equipped for that game.

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5 hours ago, That Aud Smell said:

For my part, I would not relish a playoff rematch with the Ravens. They are just a bad matchup for the Bills. Plus they have Lamar.

Not sure what is a good playoff matchup for the Bills among the top teams.  I get what you say about Baltimore, but the Bills have had chance after chance and can't beat the Chiefs in the playoffs. And when Cincy was good, they haven't looked all that good vs them.

My personal opinion is the Bills have a slightly worse overall roster (or at least more injury problems) vs the other top teams in the conference usually, but how well Josh Allen plays can make up for (or doesn't) that slight difference in talent.

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14 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

the Bills have had chance after chance and can't beat the Chiefs in the playoffs.

it's coming.

15 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

Not sure what is a good playoff matchup for the Bills among the top teams.  I get what you say about Baltimore, but the Bills have had chance after chance and can't beat the Chiefs in the playoffs. And when Cincy was good, they haven't looked all that good vs them.

My personal opinion is the Bills have a slightly worse overall roster (or at least more injury problems) vs the other top teams in the conference usually, but how well Josh Allen plays can make up for (or doesn't) that slight difference in talent.

more seriously, though. i hear all of this. i'd just prefer to avoid D. Henry if possible.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Demoted said:

Teams down by 15 with 5mins left in the game that ended up winning...

1-715 

The Saints were down 15 to the Redskins in 2017 with less than 3 minutes to go and won.

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10 minutes ago, JujuFish said:

The Saints were down 15 to the Redskins in 2017 with less than 3 minutes to go and won.

Was that win in regulation?

Posted
1 hour ago, Demoted said:

Ed ***** Oliver! That was a dominant performance from him. 

 

 

Teams down by 15 with 5mins left in the game that ended up winning...

1-715 

 

16 minutes ago, JujuFish said:

The Saints were down 15 to the Redskins in 2017 with less than 3 minutes to go and won.

Those teams down by 15 with some random amount of time left were 3 & a couple thousand since IIRC 2000.  They're now 4 & a couple thousand and this is the only one of those that ended in regulation.

The stat he was trying to quote seems to be this (have no idea who the tweeter is, so take the stat for what it's worth).  Will try to find the ESPN stat about being down by that much with so little time left.

 

 

 

And the Ravens are now either 11-1 or 10-1 including playoffs when Henry rushes for at least 100 yards.  He had 1 playoff game for them with over 100 yards rushing, so believe it is 11-1, but might've given them 1 extra win.

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