JoeSchmoe Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 He needs to be held accountable for his lack of development. Send him to ROC to figure it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Can he even go down without passing waivers? If no then that’s rightfully never going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 He hasn't exactly been put in the best position to succeed. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) Lots of factors we can point to to attempt to alleviate the blame from Krebs himself. He’s likely just not very good. He seems the type of player than can provide the bare minimum useful role if every effort is made to accommodate his success. Not the type of player you want on a good team, but fits ok on a team lacking expectations Edited November 21, 2023 by Thorny 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Sabres Fan in NS said: He hasn't exactly been put in the best position to succeed. Yeah most of his minutes are with Hands-Of-Stone Girgensons and Ol' Rockin' Chair Okposo. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 He has been awful regardless of who he's played with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 3 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Yeah most of his minutes are with Hands-Of-Stone Girgensons and Ol' Rockin' Chair Okposo. Ya, he’s not the type of player that can be the best player on a line. He’s the guy who can fit in as the least effective player on a line in a pinch, and not actively torpedo said line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Krebs is like Johan Larsson but with significantly weaker defensive abilities, but also a Johan Larsson we acquired for our franchise C, which changes his internal positioning 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, Thorny said: Ya, he’s not the type of player that can be the best player on a line. He’s the guy who can fit in as the least effective player on a line in a pinch, and not actively torpedo said line Don't get me wrong: Last year Girgs and especially Okie had more to contribute, but whoever plays on Okie's line is not gonna have a good time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Doohickie said: Don't get me wrong: Last year Girgs and especially Okie had more to contribute, but whoever plays on Okie's line is not gonna have a good time. All off-season and entering into the season itself we heard about how there’s “no room” in the forward ranks, and now there are multiple spots where..players go to die? None of it jives. We are clearly still lacking NHL forward depth and Krebs is a part of that issue if the expectations aren’t more less what we are seeing the team amount to currently I’m not comfortable saying Krebs would be adequate if we simply didn’t play him with KO. There’s A) a reason that’s where he’s lined up and B) we haven’t seen anything to suggest otherwise when he’s been with other players this season Edited November 21, 2023 by Thorny 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 51 minutes ago, Thorny said: Lots of factors we can point to to attempt to alleviate the blame from Krebs himself. He’s likely just not very good. He seems the type of player than can provide the bare minimum useful role if every effort is made to accommodate his success. Not the type of player you want on a good team, but fits ok on a team lacking expectations Agree w/ you other post that he is not going to be the driver of a line. Expect he could be effective on the 4th line if he had a 2nd winger better than Okposo. But he and Girgensons are not good enough to overcome the boat anchor that the captain has become. Wonder if putting Jost onto that line with those 2 or one of the kids (Rousek, Kulich, Rosen, ???) could get that line improved enough to be an effective 4th line. Sliding Okposo to the 3rd line (which ice time wise is actually the 4th line), tanks it. But they aren't getting much from it either. Find a way to get the 4th line effective, and suffer through the 3rd lines minutes. But, right now, at age 22, no Krebs is not good. He's particularly not good enough to pick up a linemate that is even worse. And he's being asked to do that on the 4th line, and has also been asked to do that when he's been put onto the Frankenstein line the handful of times he's been bumped to that 3rd line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JoeSchmoe Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Too many excuses here. Anders Bjork had 5 goals and 3 assists in 58 games back in 21-22. Anyone check who he played with? Krebs is on pace for 0 goals and 3 assists in 58 games. SEND HIM DOWN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: Too many excuses here. Anders Bjork had 5 goals and 3 assists in 58 games back in 21-22. Anyone check who he played with? Krebs is on pace for 0 goals and 3 assists in 58 games. SEND HIM DOWN! Pacing for 0 goals, 5 assists over a season. This isn’t a substantive disagreement with your post I just couldn’t figure out how you came up with those figures Edited November 21, 2023 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 (edited) Krebs has not been that bad. He is producing almost no offense but also allows almost no shots or goals against. He is treading water out there. Edited November 21, 2023 by Curt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmoe Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Just now, Thorny said: Pacing for 0 goals, 5 assists over a season. This isn’t a substantive disagreement with your post I just couldn’t figure out how you came up with those figures In the same 58 games as Bjork 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flashsabre Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Krebs is an enigma. He was a great junior player. A main guy on Team Canada Junior teams but hasn’t transitioned any of that to the NHL Level. Regardless of what some think of guys like Girgs and Okposo, 1 assist in 17 games is just baffling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drag0nDan Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 9 Shots... in 17 games. You really can't score if you don't shoot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
French Collection Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Doohickie said: Yeah most of his minutes are with Hands-Of-Stone Girgensons and Ol' Rockin' Chair Okposo. Gretzky in his prime couldn’t score 100 points with those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Thorny said: All off-season and entering into the season itself we heard about how there’s “no room” in the forward ranks, and now there are multiple spots where..players go to die? None of it jives. We are clearly still lacking NHL forward depth and Krebs is a part of that issue if the expectations aren’t more less what we are seeing the team amount to currently I’m not comfortable saying Krebs would be adequate if we simply didn’t play him with KO. There’s A) a reason that’s where he’s lined up and B) we haven’t seen anything to suggest otherwise when he’s been with other players this season I'll sum up the situation at forward in the off season. It looked on the surface like low expectations, but it really is our GM being overly comfortable and confident in his players. He thinks more of them than they consistently show on the ice. Krebs would have played in the AHL last year if we hade a deeper lineup. He might still be down there and knocking on the door for a shot if they had done more to improve over the past two years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimlach Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 9 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: Too many excuses here. Anders Bjork had 5 goals and 3 assists in 58 games back in 21-22. Anyone check who he played with? Krebs is on pace for 0 goals and 3 assists in 58 games. SEND HIM DOWN! Again. You have been told this already in this thread and in another thread. Sending him down requires he clears waivers. He will be picked up by a bottom feeder that can spend time developing him. You are giving away an asset that you might be able to include in a package as part of a trade. Get it? 7 minutes ago, Drag0nDan said: 9 Shots... in 17 games. You really can't score if you don't shoot. His shot is really weak too. I see most of his shot attempts fail to get to the net. Right now he looks like a AHL to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmoe Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Pimlach said: Again. You have been told this already in this thread and in another thread. Sending him down requires he clears waivers. He will be picked up by a bottom feeder that can spend time developing him. You are giving away an asset that you might be able to include in a package as part of a trade. Get it? Can you show me where I was shown this? Bench him if you have to. Him and his 1 assist are making us lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 1 hour ago, JoeSchmoe said: He needs to be held accountable for his lack of development. Send him to ROC to figure it out. 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: He has been awful regardless of who he's played with. 12 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: Too many excuses here. Anders Bjork had 5 goals and 3 assists in 58 games back in 21-22. Anyone check who he played with? Krebs is on pace for 0 goals and 3 assists in 58 games. SEND HIM DOWN! Assuming by send him down, you just want him off the team as he’ll get claimed on waivers. I’m not Krebs biggest fan but we all wanted to cast away Mitts and Tage. How do we feel about that now? It’s about finding the right niche. I think he can be an adequate cost controlled bottom six player when not playing with two of the worst offensive players in the league. I wouldn’t miss him if he’s gone but I also would not be surprised if he became a decent role player on the right team. Hell, he was looking that way last season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 21, 2023 Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, JoeSchmoe said: In the same 58 games as Bjork Ah, of course. My mistake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSchmoe Posted November 21, 2023 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2023 Not sure how to read this, but from Cap Friendly it looks like he might still be waivers exempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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