dudacek Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, Thorny said: Plenty did exactly that, league wide. The form the conversation took was not analytics, but there was still plenty of "can this hold up?" going on. The narrative was often "over-matched roster bailed out by Hall of Fame goalie" (even if that often wasn't the case, as Sabres fans who followed closely would know) It was seen as a pretty big surprise we made it as far as we did, the perception outside (ask any Leafs media) was that we were lucky to beat them, that Hasek was carrying them all year, and folks were waiting for the bubble to burst. It wasn't a "This team is in the final, this must be a great team top to bottom, you are your record, only wins matter" type deal. There's also a line where perceived sustainability just won't matter anymore to many. Sure Hasek was standing on his head, but considering who Hasek was, expecting the sublime from him seemed logical. It was easy to enjoy the hell out of it. Don’t disagree with any of this, or your previous post above it. It may only be perception on my part, but the difference between ‘99 and today was that some today will hold up analytics as “proof” that a team is good, or bad, or will prevail or fail, when all it means is that generally they should. The perception you referred to of ‘99 was false, created by the analytics of the time - shots on goal, and firepower up front. That team, which included that goalie, was that good. They were not a bubble that burst. They were the 2nd most successful team in the league. The only real proof of who is better is the team that wins. It’s a results-oriented basis, and success is very clearly defined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Thorny said: It was seen as a pretty big surprise we made it as far as we did, the perception outside (ask any Leafs media) was that we were lucky to beat them, that Hasek was carrying them all year, and folks were waiting for the bubble to burst. As Tale of the Tape will tell you, the Leafs never had a chance against the Sabres '99 squad. But also, the Leafs would have been roadkill against Dallas (and probably Detroit and Colorado, too, had they gotten through --- just as we were). The '99 Sabres team was really solid, but those Western teams at the end of the century were absolutely stacked. Edit: I also need to point out that the Sabres were in the ECF the year before with a worse roster -- so they got Juneau, and got Barnes, and got Warrener. They were a darn good team and were much improved for the follow-up in '99. But, again --- look at Dallas, Detroit, and Colorado those years... we could've won, but we were going to be underdogs+Hasek, regardless. 31 minutes ago, JohninMinn. said: Caps underestimate 50 year anniversary You underestimate the power of the fifty. Unlimited anniversary! Edited November 1, 2019 by DarthEbriate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakeSabresGrr8Again Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 6 hours ago, French Collection said: Caps have no trouble scoring but their D and GT look suspect. This will be a good test, bring your A game boys. Heads up for Tom Wilson, he could cause someone to miss the Sweden trip. Let’s go Buffalo! Don't trust Gudas either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 NS reporting for duty. This one starts at 8 PM here in Halifax, so I may be able to stay up for the whole thing (insert that winkie thingie ............ here). MUST WIN!! GO SABRES!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DarthEbriate Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 All wings report in. 3 minutes ago, New Scotland (NS) said: NS reporting for duty. This one starts at 8 PM here in Halifax, so I may be able to stay up for the whole thing (insert that winkie thingie ... ? done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 I heard the voice before i saw the face and I thought oh great I get the caps feed but then I see Dunleavy and Ray. Too funny. Anyhoo, Go Sabres! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beer Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Let’s go! GO SABRES! ⚔️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Who crushed Wilson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 PP time!! .../ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Olofsson wouldn't be out of place in a Twilight movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Jokiharju looking good so far Dammit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Bad Jack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Eichel!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Bad pass by Jack 1 minute ago, Brawndo said: Jokiharju looking good so far Dammit And Gilmore too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bunomatic Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Ayayay Eichel with the brainfart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Oh boy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 JFC Guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R_Dudley Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Yikes look like we left the defense at home.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 WTF is going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Urgh the play was a good one to start by Dahlin but you can't miss that pass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Poor passes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torpedo Forecheck Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Can't create transition for these guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 1, 2019 Report Share Posted November 1, 2019 Just now, bunomatic said: WTF is going on? They are making bad passes against a good team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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