Derrico Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Ok but how does that help us next season? Is either Thomas or Mittelstadt even close to being ready to take over any of ROR’s duties? I want to start winning bad. I really do. But I want this damn thing turned around the right way and in a sustainable way. Tim Murray was always trying to improve the team based on the upcoming season and it set us back atleast 3 years IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 @BHCdotcom This is from @TheDraftAnalyst "Anton Andersson - He skates well and can play physically, but his puck management and reads are brutal. He’s nothing more than a long-term project who could turn into a decent bottom-pair option if he can sharpen his decision making." #Sabres #Blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 https://theathletic.com/194852/2018/01/16/pronman-2017-18-midseason-top-50-nhl-prospects/ Thanks @BHCdotcom This is from @TheDraftAnalyst "Anton Andersson - He skates well and can play physically, but his puck management and reads are brutal. He’s nothing more than a long-term project who could turn into a decent bottom-pair option if he can sharpen his decision making." #Sabres #Blues I have no interest in a long term project who is a LHD from Sweden. We have 5 of them already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuuuuuuuuu Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 I value speed and IQ a lot in today's NHL. I think Mittelstadt has both. I think Thomas has 1 of them Every scouting report on Thomas I have read has mentioned both of those as strengths. Where are you seeing that he is not a + skater? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Every scouting report on Thomas I have read has mentioned both of those as strengths. Where are you seeing that he is not a + skater? http://lastwordonsports.com/2017/04/23/robert-thomas-scouting-report-2017-nhl-draft-24/ But, he looked plenty fast here https://www.thedraftanalyst.com/2017-nhl-draft-headquarters/2017-draft-profiles/c-robert-thomas/ He does remind you a lot of a slower Casey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 I want to start winning bad. I really do. But I want this damn thing turned around the right way and in a sustainable way. Tim Murray was always trying to improve the team based on the upcoming season and it set us back atleast 3 years IMO. If you get a Parayko you are doing both, you make our top 4 better now and for the next 5-7 years. The difference is this is a hockey trade ROR for Parayko (a proven top 4 D) and pieces where the team actually gets a little younger and adds more prospects to the pipeline for the future vs a TM deal which was sacrifice the future for the prayer of immediate returns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Thomas is definitely not an A+ skater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuuuuuuuuu Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Thomas is definitely not an A+ skater. absolutely not an A+ skater. Certainly can be considered a plus skater though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 absolutely not an A+ skater. Certainly can be considered a plus skater though. I think Kyrou is a better skater if we are talking about Blue's skaters. That said Thomas is probably a bit better in the IQ department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 @frank_seravalli Sounds like #Hawks renewed efforts to move Marian Hossa’s contract in last few days. Hossa, 39, has three years remaining at $5.25 million in one of those back-diving deals and league proved his medical condition worthy of LTIR exception this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 @frank_seravalli Sounds like #Hawks renewed efforts to move Marian Hossa’s contract in last few days. Hossa, 39, has three years remaining at $5.25 million in one of those back-diving deals and league proved his medical condition worthy of LTIR exception this season. Oh Hi Arizona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 If you get a Parayko you are doing both, you make our top 4 better now and for the next 5-7 years. The difference is this is a hockey trade ROR for Parayko (a proven top 4 D) and pieces where the team actually gets a little younger and adds more prospects to the pipeline for the future vs a TM deal which was sacrifice the future for the prayer of immediate returns. I agree that I would rather Parayko but that's mainly due to position. I haven't watched a second of Thomas (although maybe I did during WJC) but any prospect ranked 6th overall is someone that should be a top 6 forward very soon. From what I've read, Blues fans think he's ready for full time this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Oh Hi Arizona Perfect :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dejeanerret Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 LeBrun is tweeting Hutton the lead in Buffalo, Bernier in Detroit, and Ward in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Pi, is that you :nana: TRpm is what really matters.... and if IIRC, Okposo's TRpm was somewhere in the high minus teens..... God awful on a last place team... he was the biggest anchor. That said, I'll give him 2 months to turn it around, because his history dictates he should be much much better than he was last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 I think Thomas lacks top end speed, but he has good short-area burst and agility. Good forechecker. Coupled with his IQ, he plays a fast game. Different game overall, but like Danny Briere in that area. Blues fans are pencilling him as their 3rd line centre this year and seem to regard him like we regard Casey. I’d say both are overrated by their fanbases, but still among the best prospects outside the NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 LeBrun is tweeting Hutton the lead in Buffalo, Bernier in Detroit, and Ward in Chicago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 TRpm is what really matters.... and if IIRC, Okposo's TRpm was somewhere in the high minus teens..... God ###### awful on a last place team... he was the biggest anchor. That said, I'll give him 2 months to turn it around, because his history dictates he should be much much better than he was last season. Which history do you refer to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Chris Peters on WGR just said that ROR would not get you Robert Thomas straight up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Chris Peters on WGR just said that ROR would not get you Robert Thomas straight up Who? Seems like the entire world outside of me and Liger are in love with this kid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 I lied he was Sixth on Pronman’s Board 6. Robert Thomas, C, St. Louis Age: 18 | Height: 6-foot | Weight: 192 pounds Drafted: First round, 20th overall in 2017 2017-18 team: Hamilton Bulldogs Thomas’ development has been shooting upwards at a rocket speed the past few years, as he is now clearly one of the best players in his age group. He’s a complete player who can drive play as a center and make high-level offensive plays. He’s such an intelligent forward who sees the ice very well and understands how to use his skill and speed to create space and make plays. Every game this season I’ve watched Thomas I don’t remember a bad outing. He shows you flashes of being a dynamic player while staying committed defensively. Thomas has the potential to be an important center for the Blues. Must be that's why some of our board members don't want him.(sarcasm). Again, I like ROR and hate to see him traded but if it's going to happen Thomas is what sounds like the type of prospect we would gun for. Have to wait and see if there is a deal exactly who is involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 28, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Who? Seems like the entire world outside of me and Liger are in love with this kid Prospect and Draft Analyst for ESPN. Took over for Pronman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Sabres message board - Everyone freaking out the return isn't enough for O'Reilly. Blues message board - Everyone freaking out with the thought of giving up Thomas for O'Reilly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 (edited) Chris Peters on WGR just said that ROR would not get you Robert Thomas straight up By what I've read he is thought of that highly by the Blues organization. The only thing is the Blues are in a win now mode and might look at ROR as filling the need now and yet not that old. His contract is also a factor. It's one that some teams won't or can't take on. Edited June 28, 2018 by Radar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 28, 2018 Report Share Posted June 28, 2018 Which history do you refer to? When he had a consistently neutral TRpm with the Islanders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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