Brawndo Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Per LeBrun The Rasmus Dahlin Sweepstakes will be decided then. Edited March 7, 2018 by Brawndo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Per LeBrun The Rasmus Dahlin Sweepstakes will be decided then. So another 6 weeks until hopes are crushed once again? Edited March 7, 2018 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 The later draw has been the recent trend. I don't like it- let me down early, then give me more time to speculate!! We lost the '14 lottery on 4/15 McEichel lottery in '15 was 4/18 TO's tank was rewarded on 4/30 Last year's crazy lottery was 4/29 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 To announce the winner they should have Dahlin standing behind a curtain wearing the winning team's jersey. They lift the curtain in front of an audience of GMs while the winning team's goal song plays in the background with ice girls dancing on stage, balloons and confetti flying. Hosted by Oprah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) Anyone want to calculate our total chance at a first overall these last 6 years? It was like 50% in 14 and 25% in 15 I think? Calculated: we have had in total a 62.7% of first overall since the tank started Edited March 7, 2018 by Trettioåtta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 To announce the winner they should have Dahlin standing behind a curtain wearing the winning team's jersey. They lift the curtain in front of an audience of GMs while the winning team's goal song plays in the background with ice girls dancing on stage, balloons and confetti flying. Hosted by Oprah.Better Oprah than Steve Harvey. I would immediately become a fan of any team that sent their mascot to represent them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 12.5% this year if standings hold 7.6% last year 6.0% in 2016 20.0% in 2015 25.0% in 2014 3.6% in 2013 Chances of getting 6 consecutive #1 picks assuming same standings: 0.00000103% :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 If you ever wanna dissuade a team from tanking, screw the lottery and implement relegation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 12.5% this year if standings hold 7.6% last year 6.0% in 2016 20.0% in 2015 25.0% in 2014 3.6% in 2013 Chances of getting 6 consecutive #1 picks assuming same standings: 0.00000103% :P So basically, if we miss out this year we have failed on the odds of 75% (pretty much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 If you ever wanna dissuade a team from tanking, screw the lottery and implement relegation Someone brought up the notion that the NHL should follow the EPL with the 3 lowest teams relegated to the AHL and the 3 top AHL coming up to the NHL. I think that would be awesome, but it would never fly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trettioåtta Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Someone brought up the notion that the NHL should follow the EPL with the 3 lowest teams relegated to the AHL and the 3 top AHL coming up to the NHL. I think that would be awesome, but it would never fly. It also doesn't really work, as they are affiliated with NHL teams, so suddenly the Rochester Americans roster has Eichel and Reinhart on it and plays in the NHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Someone brought up the notion that the NHL should follow the EPL with the 3 lowest teams relegated to the AHL and the 3 top AHL coming up to the NHL. I think that would be awesome, but it would never fly. It wouldn't work because the AHL is the NHL's minor league. What happens when the Marlies get promoted and have to play Toronto? Would the GM's even let their teams take the ice? How would the league handle players getting sent down and called up? You couldn't do the way it stands with many of the players in the AHL being the property of an NHL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Someone brought up the notion that the NHL should follow the EPL with the 3 lowest teams relegated to the AHL and the 3 top AHL coming up to the NHL. I think that would be awesome, but it would never fly. It also doesn't really work, as they are affiliated with NHL teams, so suddenly the Rochester Americans roster has Eichel and Reinhart on it and plays in the NHL Agreed. I love the relegation idea, but there's really no way of implementing it outside of cutting 10 teams off the league and creating a B league like the EPL has. It's also worth noting that those teams that are relegated in EPL usually stay there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 It also doesn't really work, as they are affiliated with NHL teams, so suddenly the Rochester Americans roster has Eichel and Reinhart on it and plays in the NHL Yeah. There would have to be a provision that the affiliate of a relegated club could not come up. It wouldn't work because the AHL is the NHL's minor league. What happens when the Marlies get promoted and have to play Toronto? Would the GM's even let their teams take the ice? How would the league handle players getting sent down and called up? You couldn't do the way it stands with many of the players in the AHL being the property of an NHL team. Yup. Agreed. I love the relegation idea, but there's really no way of implementing it outside of cutting 10 teams off the league and creating a B league like the EPL has. It's also worth noting that those teams that are relegated in EPL usually stay there And, yup. But a guy can dream, eh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 As soon as the Sabres become respectable again, the NHL is going to scrap the lottery. You heard it here first! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Yeah. There would have to be a provision that the affiliate of a relegated club could not come up. Yup. And, yup. But a guy can dream, eh? As a side note, with hockey being so miserable lately and my buddy moving here (he's a huge soccer fan), I've gotten really into soccer lately. Bought some tickets to NYC to see NYCFC and the Subway Series, and have just started a ton more Champions League, MLS, and EPL games. Fun stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Better Oprah than Steve Harvey. I like Family Fued :ph34r: Mostly because I feel smarter THAN the contestants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 It's rigged, and I already have the script written for exactly why it's rigged for every possible scenario of different teams winning, and nothing anyone says can convince me otherwise. I have nothing but bad memories of this thing so I'll probably sit it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Instead of two equal conferences, a first and second division of 16 teams each with an interlocking schedule. And Oprah. Lots of Oprah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Instead of two equal conferences, a first and second division of 16 teams each with an interlocking schedule. And Oprah. Lots of Oprah. That's a really interesting idea for the regular season. Still play every team in the other conference twice. I'm not sure how you'd get 4 rounds of playoffs though, so it's a non-starter losing out on the revenue. I guess you could play the two conferences against each other at the end, but 1-8 match-ups aren't always that great. I'm trying to figure some solution where you'd take the losers from the first round and play them against the opposite conference winners, I guess. That doesn't fix the issue where the 8 teams in the premier league that don't make the playoffs are out, but the top 8 in the B-league are in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 It's rigged, and I already have the script written for exactly why it's rigged for every possible scenario of different teams winning, and nothing anyone says can convince me otherwise. I have nothing but bad memories of this thing so I'll probably sit it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 If "JFK is living on an island with Marilyn Monroe and Tupac" isn't the top pick, something's fishy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 Tinfoil Kevin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerreaultForever Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 As soon as the Sabres become respectable again, the NHL is going to scrap the lottery. You heard it here first! So never then? :doh: Come on guys think positive. The odds are with us now. This is the one that turns us around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted March 7, 2018 Report Share Posted March 7, 2018 So basically, if we miss out this year we have failed on the odds of 75% (pretty much) Actually, the probability of getting at least one #1 pick in those 6 years was/is 56% (=1-Product(1-Probability(#1))). The average number of #1's that we would get by playing those lotteries over and over again would be about 0.75. In fact, we had about exactly a coin flip's chance of getting at least one #1 during the previous 5 lotteries. The average number would have been 0.62. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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