TrueBlueGED Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 12 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Aaron Rodgers was the backup in GB for 3 seasons behind Farve. Not being the man in Year 2 doesn't mean your a bust. With our terrible O Line I much rather someone other then our prized rookie QB gets beaten up. Rodgers didn't sit because he wasn't ready, though. He sat because he was behind a HoFer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 54 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Rodgers didn't sit because he wasn't ready, though. He sat because he was behind a HoFer. I’m not sure I’d agree with that statement. GB was 4-12 Rodgers first year. If he had been ready there was ample opportunity to play him. The same goes for the 8-8 team the following year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: How else would you describe a QB who management paid an arm and a leg to acquire. A mistake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, inkman said: A mistake How bout a self inflicted wound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, TrueBlueGED said: Rodgers didn't sit because he wasn't ready, though. He sat because he was behind a HoFer. Green Bay drafted him with the knowledge that he would sit behind Favre. Like what the Cheats wanted to do with Garrappolo. They took the time to groom the next guy and it paid off. Same goes for San Diego with Rivers (although they weren't so smart with Brees and gave up on him way too quickly.) Edited November 1, 2018 by Eleven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 hours ago, LGR4GM said: He's always going to be a big armed inaccurate QB. That's what he is. I would try and get the best WR and OL help available. For WR look for guys with great hands and body control outside their normal catch window. Javon Wims springs to mind. I believe that, and you believe that, but they clearly don't. They think they can fix him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, sabills said: I believe that, and you believe that, but they clearly don't. They think they can fix him. The list of former HCs and GMs who believed they could fix a player is quite long. My fear is they will be in a position to draft an another QB and they will pass because they have Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: The list of former HCs and GMs who believed they could fix a player is quite long. My fear is they will be in a position to draft an another QB and they will pass because they have Allen. This QB draft sucks anyways. Might as well wait for Fromm and Lawrence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, WildCard said: This QB draft sucks anyways. Might as well wait for Fromm and Lawrence Lawrence won't be in Fromm's class unless Fromm stays for his senior year. Tua will be though unless he stays his senior year. The Bills will be in a position to draft a better QB in 2020 but McBeane isn't drafting another QB. They aren't smart enough. Edited November 1, 2018 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, WildCard said: This QB draft sucks anyways. Might as well wait for Fromm and Lawrence The 2020 Draft is the one I’m worried they will pass on a QB in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Just now, LGR4GM said: Lawrence won't be in Fromm's class unless Fromm stays for his senior year. Tua will be though unless he stays his senior year. Good point Just now, Brawndo said: The 2020 Draft is the one I’m worried they will pass on a QB in Gotcha. Trevor Lawrence is gonna be the real deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 minute ago, WildCard said: Good point Gotcha. Trevor Lawrence is gonna be the real deal Trevor is better than Fromm was last year IMPO. There are things Trevor does that Jake doesn't. That said Tua does it all. The real question for him will come this weekend. First time as a starter playing a legit defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 Fromm's arm is good. He can toss it about 60yrds I would guess fairly well. He is also accurate. His throws to the sidelines on fades or back shoulders are pretty to watch. He can and does change up protections and plays at the line of scrimmage. That is something you don't always see even for Sophomore QB's. I think he leans on the run a little too much and looked like absolute trash against LSU. While LSU has a good defense he missed reads and throws in that game. I would need to see more from Jake before wanting to draft him early in 2020. That's my opinion anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Eleven said: Green Bay drafted him with the knowledge that he would sit behind Favre. Like what the Cheats wanted to do with Garrappolo. They took the time to groom the next guy and it paid off. Same goes for San Diego with Rivers (although they weren't so smart with Brees and gave up on him way too quickly.) Green Bay had no idea how long he'd sit behind Favre. Favre was firmly in his year-to-year state at that point. They drafted Rodgers because he was an incredible value at their pick and they knew they would need a Favre replacement at any moment. He certainly wasn't drafted with the plan to sit him for 3 years. Anyway, playing quarterback is easier than ever before. No way should a player drafted #7 overall need to sit for two freaking years. 4 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: I’m not sure I’d agree with that statement. GB was 4-12 Rodgers first year. If he had been ready there was ample opportunity to play him. The same goes for the 8-8 team the following year. No, there wasn't. Favre was still there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, TrueBlueGED said: Green Bay had no idea how long he'd sit behind Favre. Favre was firmly in his year-to-year state at that point. They drafted Rodgers because he was an incredible value at their pick and they knew they would need a Favre replacement at any moment. He certainly wasn't drafted with the plan to sit him for 3 years. Anyway, playing quarterback is easier than ever before. No way should a player drafted #7 overall need to sit for two freaking years. No, there wasn't. Favre was still there. But Favre wasn’t playing well. In fact he should have been benched at time in both years. His QB rating was 70 and 72 for those two years. He threw 29 ints Rodgers first season and had a completion % of 56% the second year. Frankly Farve sucked those two seasons and should have been benched had Rodgers been ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 37 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Fromm's arm is good. He can toss it about 60yrds I would guess fairly well. He is also accurate. His throws to the sidelines on fades or back shoulders are pretty to watch. He can and does change up protections and plays at the line of scrimmage. That is something you don't always see even for Sophomore QB's. I think he leans on the run a little too much and looked like absolute trash against LSU. While LSU has a good defense he missed reads and throws in that game. I would need to see more from Jake before wanting to draft him early in 2020. That's my opinion anyways. That's nice and all, but: 1> did he grow up on a farm? 2> what glove size does he wear? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted November 1, 2018 Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 And anyone who suggests that Rodgers could have played more during those first couple years clearly does not know the ego that is Brett Favre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 1, 2018 Author Report Share Posted November 1, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said: But Favre wasn’t playing well. In fact he should have been benched at time in both years. His QB rating was 70 and 72 for those two years. He threw 29 ints Rodgers first season and had a completion % of 56% the second year. Frankly Farve sucked those two seasons and should have been benched had Rodgers been ready. And after all that sitting, how did Rodgers do his first year? Edit: Never mind, he did really well. For some reason I thought he did awful his first years starting Edited November 1, 2018 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 (edited) Gregg RosenthalVerified account @greggrosenthal 39m39 minutes ago More The Raiders are giving up more yards-per-play than any defense in NFL history. A morbid part of me would like to see a team with McDermott as OC and Gruden as DC. Edited November 2, 2018 by TrueBlueGED 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 2, 2018 Report Share Posted November 2, 2018 16 hours ago, MattPie said: That's nice and all, but: 1> did he grow up on a farm? 2> what glove size does he wear? He did not grow up on a farm as far as I know. He has smaller hands than Josh Allen. Although he something completely unrelated to football ability, religious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JujuFish Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 The Cardinals dropped Bradford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 No chance the Bills snag him. It would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, JujuFish said: The Cardinals dropped Bradford. Gotta sign him. The Bills need to set a record for different QBs to start games in one season. They're at 4 so far (Peterman, Allen, Anderson, McCoy--yes, that counted as a QB start last week) and can start Barkley, Pryor, and then Bradford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, JujuFish said: The Cardinals dropped Bradford. How many bones did he break when they did that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 4, 2018 Report Share Posted November 4, 2018 Sign Bradford asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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