Brawndo Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Full Deal Trade details: To PIT: C Derick Brassard F Vincent Dunn F Tobias Lindberg 2018 3rd RD pick (OTT) To VGK: RW Ryan Reaves 2018 4th RD pick (VAN via PIT) Retain 40% of Brassard cap hit To OTT: 2018 1st RD pick (PIT) 2019 3rd RD pick (PIT) D Ian Cole G Filip Gustavsson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) Vegas gets a plug, a 4th, and pays 40% of Brassards salary? How is THAT right? What am I missing? Edited February 24, 2018 by We've Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Reaves goes to VGK. Got tougher for the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 I'm not asking any questions when it comes to the choices Vegas makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Still, there has to be another shoe dropping. I find it hard to believe Vegas is picking up 40% of Brassard's cap hit what's left of this year and all of next year for a Ryan Reeves rental... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 I'm not asking any questions when it comes to the choices Vegas makes. Tru Dat. Got tougher, gave up relatively nothing and have 6 2nd round picks in hand. That’s some qualtiy GMing (in the Bobby Boucher voice) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 I thought Vince Dunn was on St Louis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 I think McPhee is also sending a message to his team that we aren’t mortgaging the future but we also beleive you can make a run and nobody is gonna try and run usnout of the building. McPhee wasn’t available when Tpegs was shopping? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Vegas got Reaves and a fourth for cash only. Pens paid the 31st overall pick for Reaves. Sounds like they did good to me. And there is another Vince Dunn. Who knew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Vegas got Reaves and a fourth for cash only. That's what I men. I thought that cash trades were no go? P-burgh gots sick centers now. Sid, Geno, and Brassard...... wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) If you buy the fact that Pittsburgh was happy to give up a late first for Reaves, then Brassard (with salary retained) essentially was worth a roster player (Coles) and the equivalent of three late 1sts/early 2nds to Pittsburgh (Which was essentially Botts initial ask for Kane.) But Ottawa actually got one piece less because they wouldn’t or couldn’t retain enough. Interesting. Love the creativity. That's what I men. I thought that cash trades were no go?P-burgh gots sick centers now. Sid, Geno, and Brassard...... wow.The cash must have been the hold-up with the NHLThey must have done some kind of shell game involving the minor leaguers and extra picks so it was all legal on paper. Edited February 24, 2018 by Mick O’Manly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabel79 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Reading now that there's speculation floating (worth however much you'd like to invest in it) that Vegas effectively laundered Brassard's salary for Pittsburgh's benefit to keep him out of Winnipeg.... interesting if true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Reading now that there's speculation floating (worth however much you'd like to invest in it) that Vegas effectively laundered Brassard's salary for Pittsburgh's benefit to keep him out of Winnipeg.... interesting if true. Even more interesting. Love this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Reading now that there's speculation floating (worth however much you'd like to invest in it) that Vegas effectively laundered Brassard's salary for Pittsburgh's benefit to keep him out of Winnipeg.... interesting if true. Read that too, they got involved in order to block a trade to a western conference team, so they stepped in to help Pittsburgh to keep him in the East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcsaberks Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Gionta to sign with Eastern Conference playoff contender. http://www.pickinsplinters.com/2018/02/23/gionta-will-be-signing-nhl-contract-very-soon/ Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Brassard was the best center on a Rangers team that won playoff series. Pens aren't fair. Lightning will be even more unfair if they can figure out a way to get Karlsson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Full Deal Trade details: To PIT: C Derick Brassard F Vincent Dunn F Tobias Lindberg 2018 3rd RD pick (OTT) To VGK: RW Ryan Reaves 2018 4th RD pick (VAN via PIT) Retain 40% of Brassard cap hit To OTT: 2018 1st RD pick (PIT) 2019 3rd RD pick (PIT) D Ian Cole G Filip Gustavsson Color me shocked that the Reaves experiment didn't work out for the Pens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottysabres Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 The arms race has swung in to 5th gear now. I can see a package leaving Buffalo for a haul as teams in both conferences start countering the Devils and Penguins moves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Reading now that there's speculation floating (worth however much you'd like to invest in it) that Vegas effectively laundered Brassard's salary for Pittsburgh's benefit to keep him out of Winnipeg.... interesting if true. Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 The arms race has swung in to 5th gear now. I can see a package leaving Buffalo for a haul as teams in both conferences start countering the Devils and Penguins moves. May this be so!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Still, there has to be another shoe dropping. I find it hard to believe Vegas is picking up 40% of Brassard's cap hit what's left of this year and all of next year for a Ryan Reeves rental... John ShannonVerified account @JSportsnetFollowFollow @JSportsnet More So my question...why would Vegas take money on Brassard and help Pittsburgh? It appears otherwise, Brassard was heading to a western team, VGK got involved to keep him in the east. As I was told “Better to face him in round 4 than 2.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weave Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 That is kind of old school. I remember back in the Lindros days, Philly picked up Joel Otto because Buffalo was heavily rumored to be pursuing him and Philly didn't want Otto in the conference to shut down Lindros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 How soon before players with a large cap hit are traded to a cap floor such as Arizona, only to be traded back to the original team in the same season with the floor team holding a percentage of said contract? This reduces the total cap hit for the original team. This may already be illegal per the CBA. Perhaps Taro can weigh in on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Funny how the further we get into a CBA, the more ways around it GMs and agents find. Some call it unfair. I say BS. No rules broken. I want my team run by smart, competitive guys actively looking for any advantage they can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Funny how the further we get into a CBA, the more ways around it GMs and agents find. Some call it unfair. I say BS. No rules broken. I want my team run by smart, competitive guys actively looking for any advantage they can find. Botterill has a Reputation for being a CBA Savant hopefully that continues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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