Brawndo Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Ian Cole is that cap related element. Yep and Ottawa intends to flip him before the trade deadline per LeBrun. Hmm so that depending on structure should be close what Sabres get for Kane. I hope so, the fear is that Brassard is a Center and there are so few of them on trade market that drove up Brassard’s Price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Interesting that the goalies moving around are all bargain bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Interesting that the goalies moving around are all bargain bin. So, you're sayin' there's a chance. :thumbsup: :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 So, you're sayin' there's a chance. :thumbsup: :lol: Bargain bin, not trash bin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Bargain bin, not trash bin. :censored: :w00t: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Per LeBrun more details to come in Brassard Trade, perhaps a third team involved in some manner Edited February 23, 2018 by Brawndo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Yep and Ottawa intends to flip him before the trade deadline per LeBrun. I hope so, the fear is that Brassard is a Center and there are so few of them on trade market that drove up Brassard’s Price The Coyotes did move Tobias Rieder.... :) Looks like they need to start their TradeCentre coverage today and carry it through the weekend... who wouldn't want 96 hours of trade talk and coverage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Seems like Pittsburgh is out on Kane then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 From John Shannon Just talked to someone who said of the Brassard deal "The league hasn't weighed in on it yet, this one is a complex one." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Seems like Pittsburgh is out on Kane then. Why? Ones a center Kane is a wing. If Pittsburgh was looking for only a center that wouldn't involve Kane plus fans rumor mill had Pittsburgh interested in Kane. Edited February 23, 2018 by Radar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Brassard to Pittsburgh for a 1st, goalie Gustavsson and other cap related elements. Per Dreger Good return. Good player but maybe inflated a bit by being the only Centre on the market. Can’t see Kane returning more, but I could see him returning similar. I still have this sense that Kane might end up in Calgary. They can pay what we would want and can just see Brian Burke being a big fan of Kane’s game. Why? Ones a center Kane is a wing. Can’t see the Pens moving futures in two big moves. They are thin there already. When Sid and Geno hit the wall it’s going to get ugly there. Rhutherford wont care though, enjoying retirement in the sunshine, polishing his Stanley Cup rings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 I feel a lot better about Kane's return now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) Why? Ones a center Kane is a wing. If Pittsburgh was looking for only a center that wouldn't involve Kane plus fans rumor mill had Pittsburgh interested in Kane. Because we want a 1st in return for Kane and they just used that up on Brassard. I suppose I should have said we're out on trading Kane to Pittsburgh. Edited February 23, 2018 by Mustasch av gud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 @PierreVLeBrun And needless to say, plan is for Ottawa to flip pending UFA Ian Cole before Monday's trade deadline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) From McKenzie PIT-OTT deal involving Brassard is ultra-complicated, so much so that Brassard will likely first be traded to a team other than PIT. Then flipped to PIT. Hearing that third team is likely VGK. Potential for layers of salary retention. Edited February 23, 2018 by Brawndo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 How much you wanna bet the NHL puts the kibosh on that Brassard deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Per Cap Friendly The max salary a team can retain is 50% & the max number of times a contract can be retained is twice. Theoretical max retained salary scenario for Brassard is therefore: Trade 1: 50% of 5M (2.5M) Trade 2: 50% of 2.5M (1.25M) Final cap hit for #Pittsburgh: $1.25M (Theoretical) How much you wanna bet the NHL puts the kibosh on that Brassard deal. I wouldn’t be surprised, but anything is possible in Bettman’s NHL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Per Kypreos Hearing @NHL has rejected the Brassard trade unless @penguins @Senators @GoldenKnights can restructure the trade to leagues satisfaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Not recently. Give Kane the puck he's going to shoot, sometimes score, that's about it. Various places on tv talk is a first and a prospect or a second and a good prospect. Eight teams still interested. Kane is a really good player. Even after this huge slump, likely because he took his foot off the gas due to injury concerns, he’s sitting at 20/20/40. He’s scoring, passing better, and is a young, energetic, physical player that’ll be a nice addition for any team looking to make a playoff run. Kane isn’t going to get a huge return, simply because he’s a rental. It really does just come down to that. To my mind his value is much, much closer to what we paid for him, in the hypothetical world he had term right now. In fact, he’s a better player now than then, and is staying out of trouble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 Per Kypreos Hearing @NHL has rejected the Brassard trade unless @penguins @Senators @GoldenKnights can restructure the trade to leagues satisfaction. Color me surprised. Didn't think the league would smack Pittsburgh that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 23, 2018 Report Share Posted February 23, 2018 (edited) 'If you have to ask you'll never know. If you know, you need only ask.' Only one Horcrux left after that... OK, fine ... Persistent, ain't he. ;) Barry Beck. Told you it wouldn't be worth the buildup. :p +100 From McKenzie PIT-OTT deal involving Brassard is ultra-complicated, so much so that Brassard will likely first be traded to a team other than PIT. Then flipped to PIT. Hearing that third team is likely VGK. Potential for layers of salary retention. I’m confused, what’s so complicated about the deal? Seemed straightforward. Edited February 23, 2018 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Only one Horcrux left after that... +100 I’m confused, what’s so complicated about the deal? Seemed straightforward. Brassard will have part of his contract retained by VGK, but for them to do that the league requires Brassard to first be acquired by VGK. So Ottawa has to trade Brassard to VGK then VGK trades him to PIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Per John Shannon Would not be surprised to see Ian Cole in Vegas in the Brassard deal to balance the books. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted February 24, 2018 Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 Per John Shannon Would not be surprised to see Ian Cole in Vegas in the Brassard deal to balance the books. Because Vegas can’t ever have too many 5th defencemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 24, 2018 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2018 (edited) Per McKenzie The Brassard Trade has been approved by the NHL Now Shannon is reportng Ian Cole will not be going to VGK Per LeBrun Pittsburgh sending Ryan Reaves to Vegas Cole also going to Ottawa Edited February 24, 2018 by Brawndo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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