Wyldnwoody44 Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 June, 22-23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpandean Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 What day is the draft? You guys reminded me, but I have forgotten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 June, 22-23 So, is round one on Friday evening and then the rest on Saturday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5th line wingnutt Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 The Wingnutt ranking final ## Player 1 Dahlin, Rasmus 2 Svechnikov, Andrei 3 Zadina, Filip 4 Tkachuk, Brady 5 Hughes, Quinton 6 Boqvist, Adam 6 Wahlstrom, Oliver 8 Bouchard, Evan 9 Dobson, Noah 10 Kotkaniemi, Jesperi 11 Farabee, Joel 12 Veleno, Joseph 13 Smith, Ty 14 Hayton, Barrett 15 Kupari, Rasmus 16 Wilde, Bode 17 Lundestrom, Isac 18 Denisenko, Grigori 19 Kravtsov, Vitali 20 Thomas, Akil 21 Mcleod, Ryan 22 Noel, Serron 23 Bokk, Dominik 24 Sandin, Rasmus 25 Miller, K’Andre 26 Kaut, Martin 27 Merkley, Ryan 28 Mcisaac, Jared 29 Olofsson, Jacob 30 Dellandrea, Ty 31 Samuelsson, Mattias 32 Alexeeyev, Alexander 33 Addison, Cale 34 Hållander, Filip 35 Berggren, Jonatan 36 Tychonick, Jonathan 37 Woo, Jett 38 Groulx, Benoit-Olivier 39 Mcbain, Jack 40 Lundkvist, Nils 41 Ginning, Adam 42 Lauko, Jakub 43 Ylonen, Jesse 44 Gustafsson, David 45 Beaudin, Nicolas 46 Mcshane, Allan 47 Foudy, Liam 48 Wise, Jake 49 Bernard-Docker, Jacob 50 Mclaughlin, Blake 51 O’Brien, Jay 52 Nordgren, Niklas 53 Bahl, Kevin 54 Khovanov, Alexander 55 Marchenko, Kirill 56 Fonstad, Cale 57 Drury, Jack 58 Hillis, Cam 59 Ranta, Sampo 60 Johansson, Filip 61 Kurashev, Philipp 62 Jenik, Jan 63 Demin, Stanislav 64 Dudas, Aidan 65 Fortier, Gabriel 66 Jenkins, Blade 67 Roman, Milos 68 Morozov, Ivan 69 Skarek, Jacob 70 Fehérváry, Martin 71 Gruden, Jonathan 72 Eriksson, Albin 73 Back, Oskar 74 Zavgorodniy, Dmitry 75 Rodrigue, Olivier 76 Kotkov, Vladislav 77 Hall, Curtis 78 Clark, Kody 79 Regula, Alec 80 Sutter, Riley 81 Eggenberger, Nando 82 Emberson, Ty 83 Bernard, Xavier 84 Pekar, Matej 85 Andersson, Axel 86 Vallati, Giovanni 87 Dostal, Lukas 88 Madden, Tyler 89 Macdonald, Anderson 90 Douglas, Curtis 91 Harris, Jordan 92 Mandolese, Kevin 93 Kondelík, Jáchym 94 Galenyuk, Danila 95 Král, Filip 96 Bouchard, Xavier 97 Topping, Kyle 98 Gravel, Alexis 99 Dunkley, Nathan 100 Iskhakov, Ruslan 101 Sokolov, Igor 102 Gross, Nico 103 Samuelsson, Adam 104 Durzi, Sean 105 Stotts, Riley 106 Annunen, Justus 107 Wouters, Chase 108 Muranov, Ivan 109 Utunen, Toni 110 Chyzowski, Ryan 111 Burzan, Luka 112 Miftakhov, Amir 113 Weiss, Tyler 114 Hrabik, Krystof 115 Florchuk, Eric 116 Westfalt, Marcus 117 Killinen, Lenni 118 Gogolev, Pavel 119 Giles, Patrick 120 Bitsadzhe, Mikhail 121 Struthers, Matthew 122 Ragnarsson, Jacob 123 Stastney, Spencer 124 Kvasnica, Michal 125 Pivonka, Jacob 126 Wylie, Wyatte 127 Der-Arguchintsev, Semyon 128 Tendeck, David 129 Zhuravlyov, Danil 130 Buchtela, Ondrej 131 Steeves, Alexander 132 Lindbom, Olof 133 Chisholm, Declan 134 Kovalenko, Nikolai 135 Wernblom, Lukas 136 Rippon, Merrick 137 Damiani, Riley 138 Cotter, Paul 139 Salmela, Santeri 140 Perbix, Jack 141 Moskal, William 142 Zhabreyev, Alexander 143 Nevasaari, Arttu 144 Perunovich, Scott 145 Zhilyakov, Bogdan 146 Kovacik, Kristian 147 Kirk, Liam 148 Hain, Gavin 149 Zábranský, Libor 149 Gajarsky, Adam 151 Schmid, Akira 152 Ingham, Jacob 153 Okuliar, Oliver 154 Plasek, Karel 155 Tanus, Kristian 156 Romanov, Alexander 157 Semykin, Dmitri 158 Crookshank, Angus 159 Karki, Keegan 160 Hofer, Joel 161 Rtishchev, Nikita 162 Budy, Brendan 163 Everett, Caleb 164 Svoboda, Matej 165 Lilja, David 166 Mansurov, Demid 167 Pettersen, Mathias Emelio 168 Robertson, Carter 169 Gerber, Jeremi 170 Hoelscher, Mitchell 171 Malyshev, Anton 172 Solopanov, Nikita 173 Kalus, Jan 174 Giroux, Damien 175 Comrie, Sean 176 Thiessen, Matt 177 Stuart, Brodi 178 Loheit, Luke 179 Callahan, Michael 180 Jakobsson, Carl 181 Henman, Luke 182 Randl, Jack 183 Koumontzis, Demetrios 183 Leppard, Jackson 185 Grachyov, German 186 Kizimov, Semyon 187 Bouthillier, Zachary 188 Jensen, Jack 189 Dobias, Vojtech 190 Corcoran, Connor 191 Ducharme, Justin 192 Nizhnikov, Kirill 193 Zamula, Yegor 194 Hutsko, Logan 195 Krygier, Christian 196 Zummack, Eli 197 Pospisil, Martin 198 Golod, Maxim 199 Granberg, Fredrik 200 Barteaux, Dawson 201 Roberts, Connor 202 Fagemo, Samuel 203 Dyadenkin, Danila 204 Laferriere, Matthias 205 Ivan, Michal 206 Shafigullin, Bulat 207 Kowalczyk, Daniel 208 Siikanen, Patrik 209 Ersson, Samuel 210 Diliberatore, Peter 211 Mccourt, Riley 212 O’Reilly, Ryan 213 Reichel, Kristian 214 Pucek, Roman 215 Almeida, Justin 216 Kalabushkin, Evgeny 217 Hartje, Chase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasmus_ Posted June 17, 2018 Report Share Posted June 17, 2018 Article on top 10 picks being traded https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/often-top-10-nhl-draft-picks-traded-june/ Short answer, doesn’t happen much, but Jeff Carter, Jordan Staal, Corey Schneider and Derek Stepan made it happen. So theoretically, O’Reilly is of similar worth and could return a top 10 pick, but not a top 5. I think that is dependent on pressures to pursue the right fit for a top six center as well as the team's window for a push at the cup and the cap flexibility available. So I do think it's not impossible to get in around the top five area. Bergevin already took a downgrade on Galchenyuk. Rakish has Berggren #10 in his model. I should probably have him higher than #32 in my rankings. Berggren is an interesting case of a high riser who makes sense for the teams build going forward. I also like Olofsson a bit. There are a number of interesting prospects that should be in that range. Somewhere I want to snag Jack Drury, the more I watch of this kid, the more I just want him in the system. He seems like a sneaky good play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 If Wingnutt's rankings hold true, I'd think that the Sabres would have an easy decision at 32 with Berggren Started doing some investigation on Nils Lundkvist today. Sounds intriguing at 32 as well, RD known for his puck moving skills. Another riser on a lot of draft boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) only 5 days till Wopner.... rapture! Edited June 18, 2018 by North Buffalo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) Berggren is an interesting case of a high riser who makes sense for the teams build going forward. I also like Olofsson a bit. There are a number of interesting prospects that should be in that range. Somewhere I want to snag Jack Drury, the more I watch of this kid, the more I just want him in the system. He seems like a sneaky good play. Berggren, Oloffson, Back all played on the same Swedish WJC18 team. Berggren had 10pts and lead the team. Olofsson had 3points and no goals. Back had 4 points, 1g, 1a. When playing against players his age, Berggren was significantly better than a couple other forwards in his draft class on his team all projected to go in the general area of the draft. Speaking of Berggren (#48) The goal 55 seconds in... omg. Edited June 18, 2018 by Skurk Liger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 And my final draft week rankings. I know I said the last post of these was it but I have had more time to digest some info and I moved a few players around. Final Rankings, 2018 NHL Draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 And my final draft week rankings. I know I said the last post of these was it but I have had more time to digest some info and I moved a few players around. Final Rankings, 2018 NHL Draft I'm always a big proponent of moving up into the later 1st early 2nd round of drafts; who the hell cares what your 3-6th picks are gonna be anyways? Point being, how do we get Dellandrea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I'm always a big proponent of moving up into the later 1st early 2nd round of drafts; who the hell cares what your 3-6th picks are gonna be anyways? Point being, how do we get Dellandrea So here is the thing. Dellandrea is currently a center and is pretty good at it. He played on a trash team and still lead them in points even though he was basically the youngest guy on it. What we might see happen, teams in that 25-32 range may go defense because they just don't need a center that they could view as under performing. A lot of those teams won't need him either. They will need a 2-4 defender which in this draft you can definitely get. 25, is TOR and they don't need a center but desperately need defense 26, is NYR and they could use a center but have a chance of taking a "better" one at 9 27, is Chicago and they are fine at center for awhile unless they are worried about Toews. They need defense for sure but did take 1 last year. 28, is NYR so they could take a defender or forward here. Will be options 29, is STL and they need defense way more than a forward, their prospect pool is deep with Centers 30, is Detroit and they need everything, idk what they will do but they have more good forwards than defenders 31, is Washington and they will need defense 32, is Buffalo... Berggren or Dellandrea could be there. They could also take O'Brien who I don't like as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I am pulling this little tidbit from a Kris Baker article: "would be a nice send off to Sabres’ Swedish scout Jan-Axel Alavaara, who is leaving the job at the end of June to take over managerial duties for German club Adler Mannheim." Considering that the Sabres Swedish scouting has been pretty solid the last couple years this is saddening to hear but all the best to him. Also a player for round 4 that Baker dug up, Ryan Chyzowski. Don't know much about him but his work ethic sounds good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 "For the period from 2006 to 2011, every single defenceman to play primarily in the SHL at age 17 went on to appear in at least one NHL game. In fact, there’s really only one comparable for Dahlin in this window: Victor Hedman." - Jonathan Willis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Who would you have that is 100% going in Round 1? The obvious are: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Hughes, Dobson, Wahlstrom, Tkachuk, Bouchard, Boqvist, Kotkaniemi, Valeno, Hayton, Smith, Farabee, Denisenko, Kravtsov, Kupari Anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 No, it gets really hazy after about pick 18 so that's probably a solid list. I would expect Sandin and Wilde to go in round 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Key to development: Sabres need to find success through NHL Draft, not just at the top ★ ‘The Sabres have just seven goals from any player drafted in the third round or later since 2010, and all those have come from 2013 third-rounder Nick Baptiste. The only skater drafted No. 100 or higher since 2007 to make a contribution is Marcus Foligno, taken at No. 104 in 2009. Foligno is the only player drafted outside Round 2 since 2006 to play at least 50 games for Buffalo.’ BUFFALO NEWS | 10 HOURS AGO Ya, we have said this before, but have not seen it summed up. We have not drafted well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Bob McKenzie’s Final Scouts Draft Rankings http://www.tsn.ca/kc-1.1115400 The scouts have Jay O’Brien at 34, I have a strong feeling he is the pick at 32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Tkachuk is going to get overdrafted... probably by Montreal who thinks he play center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Tkachuk is going to get overdrafted... probably by Montreal who thinks he play center. I'm so close to making my avatar Bergevin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Who would you have that is 100% going in Round 1? The obvious are: Dahlin, Svechnikov, Zadina, Hughes, Dobson, Wahlstrom, Tkachuk, Bouchard, Boqvist, Kotkaniemi, Valeno, Hayton, Smith, Farabee, Denisenko, Kravtsov, Kupari Anyone else? I thought Wilde too until this weekend. He wasn't invited to the US summer camp for the World Juniors, Corey Pronman dropped him in his rankings due to "off-ice and conditioning issues", whatever that means as I can't find anything else about that. and now from Bob Mckenzie: Like any draft, and like any rankings, there are some wild cards. U.S. defenceman Bode Wilde takes that to a new literal level. Quite aside from the easy pun, Wilde fits the bill. Four of our surveyed scouts had him top 20, four had between 40 and 60. Wilde is No. 25 on the TSN list. It goes without saying, but we’ll say it anyway, he could go higher or lower than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 That group of defensemen in the top ten look great. Noah Dobson, 6'3" 179lb, 69 points in 67GP for Bathurst in the Q. The big 6-foot-3 defenceman from the Acadie–Bathurst Titan played so well and so long in leading his team to the Memorial Cup title. Dobson is a strong skater with a high degree of creativity, vision and offensive prowess. Scouts feel we’re only seeing the tip of the iceberg here. Worth noting: Four of 10 scouts surveyed by TSN have Dobson in their top five. Evan Bouchard 6'2" 192lb, 87 points in 67GP for London in the O. The third-year OHL defenceman from the London Knights put up spectacular offensive numbers. The heady 6-foot-2 blueliner is arguably the best passer in the game. Long bombs, short outlets to get the attack started – he can do it all. He makes great passes to the right people at the right time, but also has a good shot from the blueline. Bouchard’s skating is said to be good, not necessarily great, but by no means a liability. Although Bouchard is less than three months older than Dobson, he is technically viewed a year older, a late 1999 birth date as opposed to 2000. Quinn Hughes 5'10" 174lb, 29 points in 37GP for Michigan as a freshman. The University of Michigan American freshman defenceman has a wow factor to his game. He is the first of a plethora of smart, skilled and dynamic sub-6 foot offensive blueliners in this draft. He plays a go-go-go offensive game, at times more like a rover than a defenceman. He’s fearless, not afraid to make high-risk, high-reward but also high-danger plays. Critics would say he’s not defensively sound or aware; boosters would say he doesn’t need to play much D because the puck is always on his stick. Also a late 1999 birthdate, Hughes played well for Team USA at the senior men’s World Championship. Adam Boqvist 5'11" 175lb, 24 points in 25GP for Byrnas J20 in SuperElit, got promoted to cut his jib in 15 games in the SHL. At a shade under six feet tall, the Swede is a dynamic offensive defenceman. He started and finished the season on extremely high notes — he was the best defenceman at the Ivan Hlinka U-18 tourney last August and again at the Under-18 World Championship in April. In between those two events, his game wavered a bit at times as he bounced around to three different teams in three different leagues, playing mostly in the Swedish junior loop but also seeing some time in the elite league and second division. Like Hughes, Boqvist’s defensive acumen is sometimes questioned. It'd be nutty to trade up into Dobson or Bouchard and end up with a Scandella-Dahlin Dobson-Ristolainen top four in two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) Future Considerations mock rounds 1-3 https://futureconsiderations.ca/fcs-2018-nhl-draft-staff-mock/ That group of defensemen in the top ten look great. It'd be nutty to trade up into Dobson or Bouchard and end up with a Scandella-Dahlin Dobson-Ristolainen top four in two years. How on earth would you trade up that high? Also Bouchard IMPO is not worth trading up for. Hughes, Boqvist, and Dobson would be. Edited June 18, 2018 by Skurk Liger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crusader1969 Posted June 18, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 (edited) Future Considerations mock rounds 1-3 https://futureconsiderations.ca/fcs-2018-nhl-draft-staff-mock/ How on earth would you trade up that high? Also Bouchard IMPO is not worth trading up for. Hughes, Boqvist, and Dobson would be. ROR? Montreal isn't that crazy though are they???? They do really need that C If Bob's top 31 go exactly that way. Who are you taking at 32? 1) Merkley 2) O'Brien 3) Lundkvist 4) Ylonen 5) Berggren 6) Other Edited June 18, 2018 by Crusader1969 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 Berggren, Merkley, Lundkvist, O'Brien, Ylonen in that order. I'd have to look at the board to suggest others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derrico Posted June 18, 2018 Report Share Posted June 18, 2018 I have zero interest for Merkley at 32. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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