LGR4GM Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Let me put it this way.... he was a mid round pick, below average size for an NHL goaltender, very mediocre stats in the USHL, no world juniors appearances, stats are decent for a mid-upper tier college goalie. What makes you believe he'll be an exception and become a regular starter in the NHL when all the evidence suggests otherwise? Never said Matthews would suck in the NHL, but go ahead and keep putting words in my mouth. Okay what you said exactly to a T was... Again.... I expected Matthews to impress out of the gate. When his ELC expires, and he signs his max deal, he'll experience a sharp steady decline into oblivion.... I said this back in June: http://forums.sabrespace.com/topic/24179-vesey-signs-with-rangers-huge-thread-now-moot/?view=findpost&p=837412 "WRT Matthews we'll see how it plays out. For the record, I predicted he would peak as a top 10 scorer in the league, he'll sign a franchise deal, and then the downward spiral will begin." But I agree with your point about our GT. He has worse numbers than Ryan Miller but we are expecting him to be better than Miller which seems odd. Edited June 15, 2017 by LGR4GM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabre fan Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) strange if they sign him hen leave him unprotected...great for Vegas I have to think there is more to this. Maybe Vegas agrees to take some salary (like Moulson and/or Bogo) if we sign and leave Ullmark unprotected Edited June 15, 2017 by Sabre fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I just looked at capfriendly's waivers tool and Ullmark is exempt from waivers next season. The rule is 4 years or 60 games and he has only been a pro 3 years and played 21 nhl games. Ullmark's new contract is only somewhat of a disincentive to taking him, because LV would have to pay himall 750K in the AHL. The biggest disincentive is that he isn't close to being one of the top 4 goalies available. Fleury, Grubauer, Pickard and Raanta are easily ahead of Ullmark. I might also go after Dansk to be my AHL goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I just looked at capfriendly's waivers tool and Ullmark is exempt from waivers next season. The rule is 4 years or 60 games and he has only been a pro 3 years and played 21 nhl games. Ullmark's new contract is only somewhat of a disincentive to taking him, because LV would have to pay himall 750K in the AHL. The biggest disincentive is that he isn't close to being one of the top 4 goalies available. Fleury, Grubauer, Pickard and Raanta are easily ahead of Ullmark. I might also go after Dansk to be my AHL goalie. This is correct. It always slips my mind that a "one-way" or "two-way" contract has nothing to do with waiver eligibility. Refers to salary whether in AHL or NHL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetlou Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 With Ulmark signed cheap for the next two years I propose JBott does the following with the Sabres goalie situation. Expose Lehner in the expansion draft and protect Ullmark. Have Vegas take Lehner to be their young proven goalie. As part of this arrangement of exposing Lehner to Vegas, Vegas would also take Fluery from Pittsburgh. Vegas then trades us Fluery for a second rd pick this year and next year and Matt Moulson or Tyler Ennis. Sabres then could talk with Peterson about competing with Ullmark for the back up role to Fluery for the next two years with one of them eventually taking over the starting role. Sabres- Fluery- starter, Ullmark- back up Rochester- Peterson- starter, Johansson- back up Cincinnati- Kasdorf- starter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) I am in favor of moving on from Lehner. Not sure Fluery is the final answer. Edited June 15, 2017 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 In before second attempt at merge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I like Lehner, but if they let him go to Vegas, then so be it, not the end of the world... as long as there's a plan in place which doesn't include Cal Petersen in a Sabres sweater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Buffalo Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 I like Lehner, but if they let him go to Vegas, then so be it, not the end of the world... as long as there's a plan in place which doesn't include Cal Petersen in a Sabres sweater. See Peterson thread.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 See Peterson thread.. Yeah, I think you're talking about the tweet that JBOT reached out to him. I think Petersen could be a good AHL goalie, but I just don't see anything about his game that would foresee him as an NHL starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 (edited) Wait b4 you disappear, Victor Olofsson, he played for MODO, I think he might come over next year. Do you think he was good or did you ever notice him on the ice? I made a post last year about Victor, you should watch that clip. If he does, i believe he has same skills as Reinhart. Edit: Thing is, Victor is a sniper and has more speed than Reinhart but their playstyle is similar. Edited June 15, 2017 by MODO Hockey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 15, 2017 Report Share Posted June 15, 2017 With Ulmark signed cheap for the next two years I propose JBott does the following with the Sabres goalie situation. Expose Lehner in the expansion draft and protect Ullmark. Have Vegas take Lehner to be their young proven goalie. As part of this arrangement of exposing Lehner to Vegas, Vegas would also take Fluery from Pittsburgh. Vegas then trades us Fluery for a second rd pick this year and next year and Matt Moulson or Tyler Ennis. Sabres then could talk with Peterson about competing with Ullmark for the back up role to Fluery for the next two years with one of them eventually taking over the starting role. Sabres- Fluery- starter, Ullmark- back up Rochester- Peterson- starter, Johansson- back up Cincinnati- Kasdorf- starter Can't see a way having Fleury makes sense for the Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Hope, Please prove your disbelievers wrong Linus! :w00t: :beer: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I love Ullmark, hope he makes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I love Ullmark, hope he makes it. I love MODO, I hope Ullmark makes it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 And Olofsson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) I don't think it's a brilliant, mind-blowing move, but Botterill signing Ullmark now to a one-way deal is a thoughtful, no-risk disincentive to Vegas and a statement to Petersen and to Ullmark about where they fit into the team's plans. Well-considered, and a good, easy-to-overlook early sign of the type of GM we hired. Edited June 16, 2017 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I don't think it's a brilliant, mind-blowing move, but Botterill signing Ullmark now to a one-way deal is a thoughtful, no-risk disincentive to Vegas and a statement to Petersen and to Ullmark about where they fit into the team's plans. Well-considered, and a good, easy-to-overlook early sign of the type of GM we hired. Interesting. In what respect do you see it as a statement to Peterson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 The Sabres have promoted the number one goalie in Rochester so the path is clear for Petersen to take that job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I made a post last year about Victor, you should watch that clip. If he does, i believe he has same skills as Reinhart. Edit: Thing is, Victor is a sniper and has more speed than Reinhart but their playstyle is similar. Thank you! I really want Olofsson to come over. He just looks good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Thank you! I really want Olofsson to come over. He just looks good. This is from season 2014/2015, this little wizzard has the most insane wristshot i tell you. If you have not seen it already, enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I think Olofsson could be Jack's winger... I really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MODO Hockey Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 I think Olofsson could be Jack's winger... I really do. Maybe in the future, he probably needs a year in AHL first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted June 16, 2017 Report Share Posted June 16, 2017 Maybe in the future, he probably needs a year in AHL first. For sure. I wish he was coming Stateside this year but we can wait for him. I am curious to see how he handles the NA game. He could make the jump straight to the NHL. He will have roughly 4 years of pro hockey experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted June 17, 2017 Report Share Posted June 17, 2017 I think Olofsson could be Jack's winger... I really do. Your swede obsession has officially gone too far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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