GASabresIUFAN Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Is this thread premature? Maybe, but the structure of this team for this season has been permanently altered by the injuries to Jack and Kane. Add in the lack of ability of Franson and Gorges to play at the pace of today's NHL and we have a real problem on our hands if GMTM wants this team to progress in the standings this season. So what is GMTM to do to fix this team or at least keep it afloat for the next 8 weeks? We have discussed adding Fowler and I think this is the first move. We need to drive O from our D and he is a great available upgrade. Girgensons and picks is probably the cost. I do think that adding Fowler probably means that this is Kulikov's only year here. Is there anything we can do up front? I think the first thing is to move Sam back to center. The next move would be to get pick up another cheap vet or two. Maybe even Legwand or a Tomas Fleischmann. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 https://www.nhl.com/player/mike-weber-8473426 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 Weber? He is younger Gorges. What about Wisneiwski? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) In the real world, there's not much to be done right now other than wait. Hope that Okposo and Kulikov help stabilize things, O'Reilly's back gets better fast, and we grind out some close wins. The other shoe to drop is Lindolm's extension, at which point hope we can out-bid the other teams without an exorbitant price (which I don't have think Murray will pay, or Fowler would already be here). In the TrueBlue fantasy world? 1) Fire Bylsma 2) Trade Bogosian for Trouba; sign Trouba to a Risto extension. 3) Trade Foligno + 2nd for Fowler. 4) Enjoy the ride to the playoffs. Edit: I wanted to include a Lindolm offer sheet in my fantasy, but even in my fantasy world I couldn't find a taker for two of Gorges/Moulson/Franson to free up the necessary cap space. Edited October 14, 2016 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 In the real world, there's not much to be done right now other than wait. Hope that Okposo and Kulikov help stabilize things, O'Reilly's back gets better fast, and we grind out some close wins. The other shoe to drop is Lindolm's extension, at which point hope we can out-bid the other teams without an exorbitant price (which I don't have think Murray will pay, or Fowler would already be here). In the TrueBlue fantasy world? 1) Fire Bylsma 2) Trade Bogosian for Trouba; sign Trouba to a Risto extension. 3) Trade Foligno + 2nd for Fowler. 4) Enjoy the ride to the playoffs. Edit: I wanted to include a Lindolm offer sheet in my fantasy, but even in my fantasy world I couldn't find a taker for two of Gorges/Moulson/Franson to free up the necessary cap space. In your world why would the Jets take Bogo back much less give up anything for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 In your world why would the Jets take Bogo back much less give up anything for him? He's already signed long term at a price they're comfortable with. Hey, I did say it was my fantasy world...emphasis on fantasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 What should he do? No major moves for now. This team is not winning the cup this year...play what you have and give it time to see who steps up when the opportunity presents itself. Of course, if there is a trade out there that you really love and is a steal, make it...but do NOT force anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 It's.................... One....................... Freaking.................... Game..................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesportsbuff Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 It's.................... One....................... Freaking.................... Game..................... I don't think anybody is really too worked up about the game that was played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 It's.................... One....................... Freaking.................... Game..................... It's not about the one game, it's about how to keep the team moving forward during the 2 month absence of two key components of the offense. It's also about the structure of the defense. I have been worried about Franson and Gorges all off-season. They were exposed by the fast Canadian team as no longer being fast enough to play at the pace NHL hockey is played at as I and many others feared. With one such D you can probably survive, but with two, who DD placed on two different lines, your are starting the game with a hand tied behind your back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ct fab Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Fire bylsma because the sabres only improved by 28 points from 2 years ago to last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkard Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Is this thread premature? Maybe, but the structure of this team for this season has been permanently altered by the injuries to Jack and Kane. Add in the lack of ability of Franson and Gorges to play at the pace of today's NHL and we have a real problem on our hands if GMTM wants this team to progress in the standings this season. So what is GMTM to do to fix this team or at least keep it afloat for the next 8 weeks? We have discussed adding Fowler and I think this is the first move. We need to drive O from our D and he is a great available upgrade. Girgensons and picks is probably the cost. I do think that adding Fowler probably means that this is Kulikov's only year here. Is there anything we can do up front? I think the first thing is to move Sam back to center. The next move would be to get pick up another cheap vet or two. Maybe even Legwand or a Tomas Fleischmann. Thoughts? If Fowler could be had for Girgensons and picks he would already be in a Sabres uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 If Fowler could be had for Girgensons and picks he would already be in a Sabres uniform. Not necessarily. Ana had a price of X, but that was there was no urgency and he obviously didn't get that price. Now with the season already started and Lindholm is still un-signed, the urgency has increased and desperate sellers have to sell at clearance prices. The question is what is GMTM willing to give up and are there other options out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Trade Franson to Edm for a 3rd and a 5th Sign Wisniewski to the vet minimum for 1 year. Then just sit some more. The idea would be to free up some cap space and just let the Ducks sweat. And we get rid of Franson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Wait until the wounded return to the lineup and see how that goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Trade Franson to Edm for a 3rd and a 5th Sign Wisniewski to the vet minimum for 1 year. Then just sit some more. The idea would be to free up some cap space and just let the Ducks sweat. And we get rid of Franson. Is trade with Edm your default? They have no reason to take Franson much less give anything up to get him. You need to find another whipping boy team, because Edmonton is much improved if for no other reason than McDavid is feeling his oats and dominating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Wait until the wounded return to the lineup and see how that goes. Yes indeedly, although if we can get Fowler for Nylander we have to seriously consider it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Yes indeedly, although if we can get Fowler for Nylander we have to seriously consider it. No, we don't have to seriously consider it. In fact, I would assume it was already considered and rejected around the draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Is trade with Edm your default? They have no reason to take Franson much less give anything up to get him. You need to find another whipping boy team, because Edmonton is much improved if for no other reason than McDavid is feeling his oats and dominating. Edm and LAK are the two team which supposedly had a bit of interest in him over the off season Yes indeedly, although if we can get Fowler for Nylander we have to seriously consider it. I certainly would not; Nylander/a 1st > Fowler for the Sabres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Are the odds better that Nylander becomes another Gaborik, or another Armia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 (edited) I'm not trading Nylander to get Fowler, not now not ever. We are short of LW talent in the pipeline and we need Nylander to take over for Kane (or maybe Ennis) within a year or two. Also we are really talking about upgrading the 3rd D pairing. I'd love get Fowler, but our top 4 when healthy is good between Bogo, Kulikov, Risto and McCabe. The goal here is to get a puck mover who can skate to replace Franson. Edited October 15, 2016 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubkev Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Are the odds better that Nylander becomes another Gaborik, or another Armia? Legit, probability based odds? Or sports analytic odds? I know it has nothing to do with it, but the list of 8th overall picks is kinda depressing. http://www.mynhldraft.com/nhl-draft-picks/8th-overall/80509/ But I chose to believe that the kid will be alright. I like Swedish players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 One other note, where we can afford to trade a prospect is RW. With Fasching, Bailey and Baptiste in the pipeline and Okposo and Reinhart in Buffalo we have enough depth to trade one of the prospects to get a Franson replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Legit, probability based odds? Or sports analytic odds? I know it has nothing to do with it, but the list of 8th overall picks is kinda depressing. http://www.mynhldraft.com/nhl-draft-picks/8th-overall/80509/ But I chose to believe that the kid will be alright. I like Swedish players. I don't think that list is that bad.. One other note, where we can afford to trade a prospect is RW. With Fasching, Bailey and Baptiste in the pipeline and Okposo and Reinhart in Buffalo we have enough depth to trade one of the prospects to get a Franson replacement. Yup, we have a lot of depth at the Center and RW positions, for sure. Even Nylander, who can also play LW, is a right hand shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted October 15, 2016 Report Share Posted October 15, 2016 Are the odds better that Nylander becomes another Gaborik, or another Armia? According to Winnipeg media Armia dazzled in the home opener and is quickly tipping the balance of that trade in the jets favour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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