Doohickie Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 What if Darcy had been fired first and GMTM came in. Assume Lindy guides us through the tank and we get Reinhart and Eichel. Do you think we would being coming into the same kind of success that Lindy's seeing in Dallas? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) Not this year, no way. Meaning Lindy would have the same success Dan is having Lindy's a great coach, but all of his players are developed. If Reinhart, Jack, Risto, McCabe, Ullmark, and Pysyk had an extra 4 years right now, we'd be in tr same boat they are Edited December 23, 2015 by WildCard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I can't even contemplate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 What if Darcy had been fired first and GMTM came in. Assume Lindy guides us through the tank and we get Reinhart and Eichel. Do you think we would being coming into the same kind of success that Lindy's seeing in Dallas? I think we all know my answer to this. It was stupid to fire him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 At the end I was carrying a pitchfork with the rest. But it was really Darcy that should have been fired, and only Darcy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#freejame Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 What if Darcy had been fired first and GMTM came in. Assume Lindy guides us through the tank and we get Reinhart and Eichel. Do you think we would being coming into the same kind of success that Lindy's seeing in Dallas? I had this same thought the other day after someone made a comment (sarcastically) about Seguin having a coach who stifles offensive talent. I don't think if Lindy were coaching we would have gotten Reinhart and Eichel, as I think we would have probably squeaked out a few extra points over the years, but say we did then I would have to agree WildCard. I think that he would have us in a better position after next season than DD though. That's probably do to my own bias rather than anything I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Lindy,... Luv ya,... Buh bye. DD might not be the coach when we take the next step, but he's doing what we need done right now. No regrets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I think we all know my answer to this. It was ###### stupid to fire him. I for one would welcome Lyndy back with open arms , love a coach with fire and he loves the sabres. Things would have to go bad in dallas, wich I don't see happening soon, and Bylsma would have to screw it up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Why was it stupid to fire Lindy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musichunch Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I don't think Lindy would've handled the tank very well. He would've clashed with Murray big time. For every Lindy, you need a Darcy. For every Dan, you need a Tim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 What if Darcy had been fired first and GMTM came in. Assume Lindy guides us through the tank and we get Reinhart and Eichel. Do you think we would being coming into the same kind of success that Lindy's seeing in Dallas? The move that has the Dallas Stars at the top of the NHL standings is the trade for Tyler Seguin not the hiring of Lindy Ruff. Without Seguin the Stars would be just another team in the league. The question for me is, where would the Sabres be right now if they would have fired Regier earlier and hired Jim Nill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 No. We'd look largely the same. Even still it is unthinkable because once the we set down the road to two consecutive tanks there was absolutely no way either coach or GM would have survived two seasons once the brutal hard truth of what it means to tank met reality. Especially with a coach that had been here 16 years already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 (edited) I can't even contemplate it. IF ANYONE COULD CONTEMPLATE IT, it has to be you,, :flirt: Edited December 23, 2015 by wjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 IF ANYONE COULD CONTEMPLATE IT, it has to be you,, :flirt: But it's unthinkable! No. We'd look largely the same. Even still it is unthinkable because once the we set down the road to two consecutive tanks there was absolutely no way either coach or GM would have survived two seasons once the brutal hard truth of what it means to tank met reality. Especially with a coach that had been here 16 years already. I've always suspected Lindy and Darcy were asked if they wanted to go down that road and they said no, Darcy just a little later when "the extent of the rebuild" (to be determined by the owner, according to Darcy) truly became known. In other words, they got golden parachutes. Under this scenario, they were fired as a favor to loyal Sabres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Why was it stupid to fire Lindy? He is an outstanding NHL coach. I was in that it's all Darcy and, going back a bit further Quinn's, fault, with 11. That said, after 16 years, it was time, but Darcy should have done the decent thing and refused to fire Ruff and resign. Let Pegula, or someone, fire Lindy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Nobody ever said Lindy was a bad coach. Sometimes good coaches get fired because a change is needed. In Lindy's case, Darcy was heavily invested in his core and they largely tuned Lindy out (not Lindy's fault) because his message grew stale. Lindy is good NHL coach, I'm glad he's having success, although expect goaltending and defense will ultimately doom his club in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 The general perception of Lindy by NHL fans on hfboards is that he's mediocre-to-bad, which is interesting considering the near-consensus here that he was at least a decent coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 The general perception of Lindy by NHL fans on hfboards is that he's mediocre-to-bad, which is interesting considering the near-consensus here that he was at least a decent coach. What do those ya hoos over there know anyway ... damn phone ... bloody thing spell phonetically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRobertEichel Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 The general perception of Lindy by NHL fans on hfboards is that he's mediocre-to-bad, which is interesting considering the near-consensus here that he was at least a decent coach. Mediocre-to-bad?! Yeah that's a bit harsh. Dallas winning a Cup would probably be enough to help Lindy make the NHL Hall of Fame. He's a very good coach with a solid reputation around the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristian Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 Nobody ever said Lindy was a bad coach. Sometimes good coaches get fired because a change is needed. In Lindy's case, Darcy was heavily invested in his core and they largely tuned Lindy out (not Lindy's fault) because his message grew stale. Lindy is good NHL coach, I'm glad he's having success, although expect goaltending and defense will ultimately doom his club in the playoffs. Darcy's "core" consisted almost entirely of "non-Lindy Ruff" players. Meaning, none of them were terribly hardworking, or focused on playing well without the puck, and around their own net. That mess was on Darcy, 100% - Too bad the coach is usually the first to go, in those cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woods-racer Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 What do those ya hoos over there know anyway ... damn phone ... bloody thing spell phonetically. O, I'm sure it's all *weather* related up there in Halifax. :flirt: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwampD Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'll just say that I enjoy watching how DD's team plays in its own end way more than I ever did watching a Lindy team do the same thing. And I'm pretty sure it's not personnel related. Let's hope he (DD) figures out the O-zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted December 23, 2015 Report Share Posted December 23, 2015 I'll just say that I enjoy watching how DD's team plays in its own end way more than I ever did watching a Lindy team do the same thing. And I'm pretty sure it's not personnel related. Let's hope he (DD) figures out the O-zone. It's nice going consecutive periods without the every line being changed He is an outstanding NHL coach. I was in that it's all Darcy and, going back a bit further Quinn's, fault, with 11. That said, after 16 years, it was time, but Darcy should have done the decent thing and refused to fire Ruff and resign. Let Pegula, or someone, fire Lindy. Nobody ever said Lindy was a bad coach. Sometimes good coaches get fired because a change is needed. In Lindy's case, Darcy was heavily invested in his core and they largely tuned Lindy out (not Lindy's fault) because his message grew stale. Lindy is good NHL coach, I'm glad he's having success, although expect goaltending and defense will ultimately doom his club in the playoffs. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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