qwksndmonster Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 I've no idea. Sorry, man. ooooohhhh. How does it feel to be a loser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 ooooohhhh. How does it feel to be a loser? How do you think I feel? I just watched an aging Mickey Mantle strike out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 22, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Scott Levin at WGRZ (who clearly has a well placed source - Eoannou?) tweeting that accuser's attorneys may hold press conference tomorrow to address leaks regarding the forensic results. Edited September 22, 2015 by That Aud Smell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Scott Levin at WGRZ (who clearly has a well placed source - Eoannou?) tweeting that accuser's attorneys may hold press conference tomorrow to address leaks regarding the forensic results. Speaking of the leaks, the timing was quite curious, so close to Kane's presser, wasn't it? I guess, like we talked about when the story of Kane's cop cabbie came out, it's good to have friends in law enforcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Scott Levin at WGRZ (who clearly has a well placed source - Eoannou?) tweeting that accuser's attorneys may hold press conference tomorrow to address leaks regarding the forensic results. It's confirmed to actually be happening. 1pm IIRC. I guess they feel obligated to present counter-points to the leaks and the Kane presser? On the one hand I can see why they'd want to do that, on the other hand I'm not sure how compounding leaks with more leaks will be beneficial to the overall process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 It's confirmed to actually be happening. 1pm IIRC. I guess they feel obligated to present counter-points to the leaks and the Kane presser? On the one hand I can see why they'd want to do that, on the other hand I'm not sure how compounding leaks with more leaks will be beneficial to the overall process. I really don't think if it's coming straight from the lawyer that it is considered a leak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 This press conference will not help the legal process. But then again, a resolution of this matter is not only being pursued through the courts of law -- the court of public opinion is also being petitioned. Like a mofo, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 ooooohhhh. How does it feel to be a loser? How do you think I feel? I just watched an aging Mickey Mantle strike out. :w00t: This board has its moments... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I really don't think if it's coming straight from the lawyer that it is considered a leak I'd consider any piecemeal release of information outside the official legal process to be a leak, regardless of source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 :w00t: This board has its moments... Ha! I just read that stuff. Funny stuff. PA, now, more clearly in the light of day, I think the conviction would be reversed because the prosecution withheld evidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I'd consider any piecemeal release of information outside the official legal process to be a leak, regardless of source. I guess if you want to use your own definitions of words, then you would be right. 5. a disclosure of secret, especially official, information, as to the news media, by an unnamed source. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I guess if you want to use your own definitions of words, then you would be right. 5.a disclosure of secret, especially official, information, as to the news media, by an unnamed source. What's really relevant is not a dictionary definition of "leak," but Rule 3.6 here: http://www.nycourts.gov/rules/jointappellate/ny-rules-prof-conduct-1200.pdf You guys can sort out whether it was / will be violated. I think subsection (d) allows her lawyer to address the DNA stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I guess if you want to use your own definitions of words, then you would be right. 5.a disclosure of secret, especially official, information, as to the news media, by an unnamed source. Sure, the dictionary says a leak comes from an anonymous source. If the lawyer(s) disclose more information regarding the investigation today, well that information is supposed to be kept confidential to the investigation, so it's a leak in substance if not name. What's really relevant is not a dictionary definition of "leak," but Rule 3.6 here: http://www.nycourts.gov/rules/jointappellate/ny-rules-prof-conduct-1200.pdf You guys can sort out whether it was / will be violated. I think subsection (d) allows her lawyer to address the DNA stuff. I think you're right. My question would be how much information can the lawyer divulge before it turns from protecting against prejudicial effects of the recent publicity into an active attempt to prejudice in the opposite direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 What's really relevant is not a dictionary definition of "leak," but Rule 3.6 here: http://www.nycourts.gov/rules/jointappellate/ny-rules-prof-conduct-1200.pdf You guys can sort out whether it was / will be violated. I think subsection (d) allows her lawyer to address the DNA stuff. Good stuff. I can't say I've ever had a matter that implicated that Rule. I'm also fairly confident that the high-profile defense attorneys of the NY bar tend to operate on the edges of Rule 3.6. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Good stuff. I can't say I've ever had a matter that implicated that Rule. I'm also fairly confident that the high-profile defense attorneys of the NY bar tend to operate on the edges of Rule 3.6. Oh, hell yes. TrueBlue does that answer your question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Oh, hell yes. TrueBlue does that answer your question? Yes, it's essentially the mail's "do not bend" rule of lawyering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTS Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I really don't think if it's coming straight from the lawyer that it is considered a leak So how much involvement would the accuser's lawyer have in the matter of a criminal investigation? Why would her lawyer even be involved? Shouldn't it be the DA's office that would address this? Is there a civil suit that I am not yet aware of? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 So how much involvement would the accuser's lawyer have in the matter of a criminal investigation? Why would her lawyer even be involved? Shouldn't it be the DA's office that would address this? Is there a civil suit that I am not yet aware of? Victims and alleged victims of crimes are welcome to retain their own counsel if they want to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 So the accusers attorney just said that the mother of the accuser found the evidence bag with the rape kit at her front door, ripped open and resealed. The attorney is saying there is enough evidence to make a case for tampering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 So the accusers attorney just said that the mother of the accuser found the evidence bag with the rape kit at her front door, ripped open and resealed. The attorney is saying there is enough evidence to make a case for tampering. Wait, what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sodbuster Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 So the accusers attorney just said that the mother of the accuser found the evidence bag with the rape kit at her front door, ripped open and resealed. The attorney is saying there is enough evidence to make a case for tampering.Despicable. Although, now the leak earlier this week about DNA locations makes a little more sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabills Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 For more info check out Tim Graham's timeline, starting at around 1 today: https://twitter.com/ByTimGraham Wait, what? Yes, its as insane as it sounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 I don't even know what to say right now. What the f*ck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Well, this is turning into a real show, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 So when was the bag delivered to her house? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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