GASabresIUFAN Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 (edited) People here have said that Foligno is tradeable. He has a career high of 23 pts (last season). He is physical. Plays a decent two way game and sticks up for teammates. He is also on pace for another 20 pt season. He is on a one year deal at 2.25 and is an RFA. Ok, so what is his value? Can trading him help us get what we need? Will he garner us a top 6 forward? No! Will he garner us a top 4 D? No! We saw last year that McGinn couldn't even get us a 2nd rd pick at the deadline and he added scoring. So is Foligno worth a 3rd pick like McGinn at best? Can he be packaged with a 2nd rd pick to get a top 6 forward or top 4 D? I doubt it. Remember we can't take on any salary. Why would you trade him if all your going to get back is a draft pick who at best won't make the 3-5 years or get a bottom six forward or a bottom line D? How is that upgrading the team? Edited November 21, 2016 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 People here have said that Foligno is tradeable. He has a career high of 23 pts (last season). He is physical. Plays a decent two way game and sticks up for teammates. He is also on pace for another 20 pt season. He is on a one year deal at 2.25 and is an RFA. Ok, so what is his value? Can trading him help us get what we need? Will he garner us a top 6 forward? No! Will he garner us a top 4 D? No! We saw last year that McGinn couldn't even get us a 2nd rd pick at the deadline and he added scoring. So is Foligno worth a 3rd pick like McGinn at best? Can he be packaged with a 2nd rd pick to get a top 6 forward or top 4 D? I doubt it. Remember we can't take on any salary. Why would you trade him if all your going to get back is a draft pick who at best won't make the 3-5 years or get a bottom six forward or a bottom line D? How is that upgrading the team? Completely agree but if offers get ridiculous near the deadline, you take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Vogl just posted that the Sabres have been in trade talk today. Not sure if anything will come of it. yup trading bylsma for ruff :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted November 21, 2016 Report Share Posted November 21, 2016 Who is 25 then? Grigorenko, who may, or may not, be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 From Friedman 30 Thoughts 11. Here’s what it sounds like happened with Vancouver, Buffalo and Evander Kane: There were a lot of assumptions the price would be low, that the Sabres would be so desperate to do this that the Canucks would get a steal. Sabres GM Tim Murray made it clear that would not be the case. (Neither team would comment.) If you look at the blockbuster with Winnipeg, the Sabres were willing to grow the deal to increase the return, and I would assume that happened here, too. One of the things I’ve heard Buffalo is looking for is speed, both up front and on the blue line. There are not a ton of logical fits. As mentioned last week, Vancouver is not giving up either Brock Boeser or Olli Juolevi unless the return is massive. And I don’t think Buffalo was too interested in anyone off the main Vancouver roster other than maybe Chris Tanev. In the end, the Canucks weren’t willing to do it. And this As mentioned, the Sabres are looking for speed. Calgary is open for business. Bruce Boudreau half-joked he had “four checking lines” on Monday, as Minnesota eyes a scorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Seems to me that GMTM is well aware of what the NHL is trending towards and is trying to ensure his team will be riding that wave. Benning is truly and idiot if he thought GMTM would just had Kane over for pennies. Also, I can haz Boeser? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 McKenzie: The #Sabres are not close to trading Evander Kane, but they do appear to at least be open to the idea if they get the right D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Nick Bjugstad is back from his hand injury. Pure speculation on my part, but I can see the Panthers dealing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 McKenzie: The #Sabres are not close to trading Evander Kane, but they do appear to at least be open to the idea if they get the right D. Now that is going out there on a limb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Per McKenzie after a deal couldn't be reached with Vancouver, The Islanders called to inquire about Kane as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Per McKenzie after a deal couldn't be reached with Vancouver, The Islanders called to inquire about Kane as well. Kane for Tavares E4 (throw in Justin Kea to make it work) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Kane for Tavares E4 (throw in Justin Kea to make it work) always thought the Islanders would be a good trade partner for some D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducky Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 Who is quite possibly the worst defenseman to suit up regularly over the past few seasons. That would be Mark Stuart... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted November 27, 2016 Report Share Posted November 27, 2016 Friedman reported that the Sabres have had scouts following Utica with interest in Jake Virtanen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Friedman reported that the Sabres have had scouts following Utica with interest in Jake Virtanen I'll be the complain-guy if this trade happens. Not a Virtanen fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I'll be the complain-guy if this trade happens. Not a Virtanen fan Really depends on the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Friedman reported that the Sabres have had scouts following Utica with interest in Jake Virtanen I'll be the complain-guy if this trade happens. Not a Virtanen fan Assuming it'd for Kane and there's no other pieces involved, that's a "get this guy away from my team" kind of trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Assuming it'd for Kane and there's no other pieces involved, that's a "get this guy away from my team" kind of trade. yeah. My view of Virtanen is that he needs a lot of work and attitude change just to get to be where Kane is at right now - a headache that plays some boneheaded hockey, supplemented with a good forecheck and raw speed but a propensity to injure himself with the way he plays. I'll stress that I mean hockey-related attitude change. He seems to suffer from "thinks he should be playing because of Vancouver's losing streak but doesn't understand that he was the worst player on that team while it was losing" attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 If its for virtanen , there better be a D man involved as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 McKenzie: Flames listening on Hamilton Dreger: Yotes willing to move Duclair, looking for a top 2 center Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Unless you can get the flames interested in Kane, Ennis, or Zemgus, I don't think we are a good fit there. Anthony Duclair had a ridiculous sh% last year so I would be very cautious of trading for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I think you could get the Flames listening on any 3 of those players, or at least a combo of them and Bogo or someone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Flagg Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Anthony Duclair had a ridiculous sh% last year so I would be very cautious of trading for him.It seems that this was corrected this season, I remember it taking a looooong time for him to score his first. I like him, but we aren't giving up a top 6 center. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I think you could get the Flames listening on any 3 of those players, or at least a combo of them and Bogo or someone I think if you could sell the flames on Kane, well I would be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 McKenzie: Flames listening on Hamilton Dreger: Yotes willing to move Duclair, looking for a top 2 center Roy for Malkin 2: Desert Warfare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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