ddaryl Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) My expectations is to better than expected. Playoffs and some advancement. I really like our team think they will gel quickly and respond to Buffalo's hockey fans and Pegulas investments in hockey Edited September 5, 2015 by ddaryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 FWIW, the same website has the Bruins as a probably/potential playoff team, with them advancing if they get in. Here's a question for you all: Do you believe the Bruins, after their dismantling, have a better shot at the playoffs this year than the Sabres do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 FWIW, the same website has the Bruins as a probably/potential playoff team, with them advancing if they get in. Here's a question for you all: Do you believe the Bruins, after their dismantling, have a better shot at the playoffs this year than the Sabres do? Yes. I think the Bruins still have a much better shot but their days in that position are dwindling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Yes. I think the Bruins still have a much better shot but their days in that position are dwindling. Say you take Rask away; now, the odds may not be exactly even, but they're pretty close at that point, no? In other words, Rask seems to be the deciding factor in this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Say you take Rask away; now, the odds may not be exactly even, but they're pretty close at that point, no? In other words, Rask seems to be the deciding factor in this. I still think they're more talented as far as we know at this moment if the goalies are equal. But if the kids here play up to their potential some right away and their age shows itself then it could be a different story. I'd rather have our roster, but I would feel safer betting on them. They're Matt Cassel and we're Tyrod Taylor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Boston is a waning moon. I would say they will battle for one of the last playoff spots this year but unless they do something drastic, they won't be a playoff team in 2-3 years. Krecji and Bergeron are good but there isn't enough offensive talent to sustain that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Bergeron — O'Reilly Krecji — Eichel Eriksson — Moulson Belesky — Kane Marchand — Girgensons Pastrnak — Ennis Kelly — Gionta Spooner — Reinhart Hayes — Foligno Talbot — McGinn Connolly — Larsson Rinaldo — Deslauriers Chara — Bogosian Krug — Ristolainen Seidenberg — Pysyk McQuaid — Gorges Morrow — McCabe Irwin — Weber Rask — Lehner Rask vs Lehner is their only clear advantage. I think player for player we have a better roster. I will be disappointed if we finish behind them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Chara / Bogo is a pretty clear advantage for the B's, too, but I agree with your conclusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 (edited) Chara / Bogo is a pretty clear advantage for the B's, too, but I agree with your conclusion. Maybe. The big guy isn't what he used to be. Edited September 5, 2015 by dudacek Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Bergeron — O'Reilly Krecji — Eichel Eriksson — Moulson Belesky — Kane Marchand — Girgensons Pastrnak — Ennis Kelly — Gionta Spooner — Reinhart Hayes — Foligno Talbot — McGinn Connolly — Larsson Rinaldo — Deslauriers Chara — Bogosian Krug — Ristolainen Seidenberg — Pysyk McQuaid — Gorges Morrow — McCabe Irwin — Weber Rask — Lehner Rask vs Lehner is their only clear advantage. I think player for player we have a better roster. I will be disappointed if we finish behind them. I think Bergeron is clearly better than O'Reilly, and even if Eichel matches Krejci's offense this year, I'd be shocked if he matches Krejci's all-around game. We may have a better overall roster (I like many of our supporting players more), but there something to be said for roster chemistry with all the new faces and a new coach. Tack that onto the goaltending different (easily enough to determine which team finishes better on its own) and I'd be pleasantly surprised if we finished higher than Boston. However, I think this is the last year I'll be feeling this way for a long while. Maybe. The big guy isn't what he used to be. Agreed. He ideally slots in on the second pair at this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 I think Bergeron is clearly better than O'Reilly, and even if Eichel matches Krejci's offense this year, I'd be shocked if he matches Krejci's all-around game. We may have a better overall roster (I like many of our supporting players more), but there something to be said for roster chemistry with all the new faces and a new coach. Tack that onto the goaltending different (easily enough to determine which team finishes better on its own) and I'd be pleasantly surprised if we finished higher than Boston. However, I think this is the last year I'll be feeling this way for a long while. Agreed. He ideally slots in on the second pair at this point. You Blue? Say it ain't so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 You Blue? Say it ain't so. Hopefully Ryan doesn't notice I said this about him, but yea. Bergeron puts up equivalent offensive numbers, and better possession numbers, all while being saddled with by far the most extreme defensive minutes in the league among top-flight forwards. For me, Bergeron is on Toews' level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I am going to strongly disagree with TBGED on both Chara being 2nd pairing and Bergeron being a peer of Toews'. It's now in the official record of these things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I am going to strongly disagree with TBGED on both Chara being 2nd pairing and Bergeron being a peer of Toews'. It's now in the official record of these things. Going to need some clarification on these statements nfreeman. Are you in belief that Toews < Bergeron, and Chara, at this point in his career, isn't a 2nd pairing defenseman? IMO TrueBlue is right in both cases: Bergeron is a better overall player than O'Reilly, and Chara is a 2nd pairing d-man at this point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookie1 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) What about Gonchar? He could platoon with Carlo, if we want McCabe to stay in the AHL. Or another of the UFA geezers. Edited September 6, 2015 by thewookie1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 What about Gonchar? He could platoon with Carlo, if we want McCabe to stay in the AHL. Or another of the UFA geezers. He signed a PTO with the Pens. He's far too old and broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Going to need some clarification on these statements nfreeman. Are you in belief that Toews < Bergeron, and Chara, at this point in his career, isn't a 2nd pairing defenseman? IMO TrueBlue is right in both cases: Bergeron is a better overall player than O'Reilly, and Chara is a 2nd pairing d-man at this point I think he's saying that Bergeron isn't a peer of Toews because Toews is on a higher level, not the other way around. And I think he's saying that Chara is a first pairing guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Hopefully Ryan doesn't notice I said this about him, but yea. Bergeron puts up equivalent offensive numbers, and better possession numbers, all while being saddled with by far the most extreme defensive minutes in the league among top-flight forwards. For me, Bergeron is on Toews' level. I agree with this. I almost spoke up in the O'Reilly review thread about it. Bergeron and Thomas were the main cogs in that Boston cup run. Chara played an important role, but Bergeron was the heart of that team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) I think Chara has his days as an elite D-man being over. This year, barring injury, he will still be 'above average', but the overall quality you will get out of him will be that of a typical #2 or #3 guy. He may be in great shape, but there is no way all of those minutes aren't taking a big toll on a guy his age. If the Bruins get into the playoffs this year, I think it will be because of the veterans staying healthy and producing at a 'decent' level, but they will need some unexpected production from some of their younger guys (but they don't really have any younger guys with a huge upside that I can tell) Pastrnak? Maybe, but for the Bruins to contend for a title..or even make the playoffs, they better get 20-25 goals from him at least. Edited September 6, 2015 by mjd1001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I think he's saying that Bergeron isn't a peer of Toews because Toews is on a higher level, not the other way around. And I think he's saying that Chara is a first pairing guy. I tied on a pretty good one last night, I didn't even remember posting that until I saw your response notification. :bag: I went back and reread it with a clear mind today, I get what hes saying now. Thanks for the attempt at clearing that up for me though :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I think he's saying that Bergeron isn't a peer of Toews because Toews is on a higher level, not the other way around. And I think he's saying that Chara is a first pairing guy. Correct. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 I tied on a pretty good one last night, I didn't even remember posting that until I saw your response notification. :bag: I went back and reread it with a clear mind today, I get what hes saying now. Thanks for the attempt at clearing that up for me though :lol: Join the club, was having a few :beer: last night too, suprised I didn't commit a few more grammar mistakes. :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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