inkman Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I was scared at the end, Gronk getting the long 4th and 10 and the TD, I wasn't comfortable until the onsides was recovered, because NE always finds a way..... I'm happy to see Brady go home, he'll yeah!!! So does Peyton retire either way?! I hope so he's got nothing left to prove and he will just tarnish his legacy if he sticks around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Is it too much to ask that both championship games be close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I hope so he's got nothing left to prove and he will just tarnish his legacy if he sticks around Nothing to prove if he comes away with the win. The unable to get it done in the playoffs mantra will stick around if not. Denver will be the decided underdogs. Their D will have to have another outstanding game, and Manning will have to have the game of his life to beat this Panthers team. They are on a whole other level right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Nothing to prove if he comes away with the win. The unable to get it done in the playoffs mantra will stick around if not. Denver will be the decided underdogs. Their D will have to have another outstanding game, and Manning will have to have the game of his life to beat this Panthers team. They are on a whole other level right now. He's 3-1 against Tom Brady in AFC Championship games :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyldnwoody44 Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I can see Denver doing enough to slow down the Panthers and causing Newton into some turnovers, however the Panthers D is on a much higher level than the Patriots D and Denver doesn't move the ball all that well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) He's 3-1 against Tom Brady in AFC Championship games :P Sure, but of course, small sample size there. 10-12 in the rest of his playoff games. Not trying to rip on Manning, I like him. And think he's one of the greatest of all time, even with only 1 Super Bowl. A 2nd would bolster his resume greatly, though. Edit: Peterson can NOT make that mistake!!! Edited January 25, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The ultimate reason why this superbowl is important to Peyton: Eli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) The ultimate reason why this superbowl is important to Peyton: Eli. Peyton is already so, so much better than Eli though, it's not even close. Wish we could have had an interesting NFC Championship. Yeesh. All out dominance from Carolina. Edit: And a huge interception, right after I type that. Edited January 25, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Come on, give me a game before half time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Was so pulling for pick six! Palmer :censored: Edited January 25, 2016 by GoPre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Peyton is already so, so much better than Eli though, it's not even close. Well, yeah. But Eli will always get to clink his two SB rings together from across the dinner table with that stupid smirk on his face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildCard Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 What a jabroni. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Well, yeah. But Eli will always get to clink his two SB rings together from across the dinner table with that stupid smirk on his face. True. What in the blue hell is Palmer thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Sure, but of course, small sample size there. 10-12 in the rest of his playoff games. Not trying to rip on Manning, I like him. And think he's one of the greatest of all time, even with only 1 Super Bowl. A 2nd would bolster his resume greatly, though. Edit: Peterson can NOT make that mistake!!! And this is where I really diverge from the consensus view of things. Winning a 2nd as a shell of his former self on the back of that defense should have zero impact on where he ranks historically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 Since the joy of Bills playoff success has been muted with time, I'll take the next best thing and enjoy those from NE going home. On cloud nine here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 What in the blue hell is Palmer thinking. I don't even think he knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) And this is where I really diverge from the consensus view of things. Winning a 2nd as a shell of his former self on the back of that defense should have zero impact on where he ranks historically. If the Broncos do pull off a Super Bowl win, people will only look at 1 number. And that'd be Peyton having 2 Super Bowl Rings. His blah performance the past 2 seasons won't be talked about often. Manning needs to end his career regardless of what goes down. Chances of him making another Super Bowl are next to none. Edited January 25, 2016 by GoPre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claude_Verret Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) The bandwagon in Carolina is over crowded, but I'll deal as long as NE is done. Edit: I'm all in on Denver anyway since the law of misery loves company will not allow me to root for Carolina or Arizona to win their first super bowl before the Bills. Edited January 25, 2016 by Claude_Verret Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 If the Broncos do pull off a Super Bowl win, people will only look at 1 number. And that'd be Peyton having 2 Super Bowl Rings. His blah performance the past 2 seasons won't be talked about often. I know that's how it'll go, and I think it's horribly wrong to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) I know that's how it'll go, and I think it's horribly wrong to do. :thumbsup: Right on. A few years ago NFL analysts were talking about what does it take for a QB to be considered as one of the greats. Most in that particular discussion agreed it depended on the number of Super Bowl wins. I wanted to puke when they spoke of Roethlisberger being better than a few hall of famers like Marino or Kelly. And it all came down to the 2 Super Bowls Roethlisberger won. Edited January 25, 2016 by GoPre Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrader Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I moved to Boston and they wound up with 14 championships over 14 years. Now Carolina is looking to add their second since I've been here. Why the hell didn't my magic work in Buffalo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) And this is where I really diverge from the consensus view of things. Winning a 2nd as a shell of his former self on the back of that defense should have zero impact on where he ranks historically. Well ordinarily I would agree, but I happen to think that if Manning is going to win his second Super Bowl, he's going to have to have a great performance in the game. He played good today, and I think he will have to be much better the beat Carolina. If he has a great game and wins it, it absolutely should affect his legacy. Edit: But the idea that greatness can purely be measured by the number of championships is one that I too disagree with, if that is what you are getting at. Quarterbacks can get ones they don't deserve, and deserve ones they don't get. If Butler hadn't made that big play in the championship last year, would Brady's comeback in that game been any less impressive? Championships is and always has been a team achievement. It would have been wrong for Brady's legacy to have taken a hit had Butler not made that play. The bandwagon in Carolina is over crowded, but I'll deal as long as NE is done. Edit: I'm all in on Denver anyway since the law of misery loves company will not allow me to root for Carolina or Arizona to win their first super bowl before the Bills. I actually feel like for a 15-1 team, they have been rather under-appreciated. Edited January 25, 2016 by Thorny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoPre Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 I moved to Boston and they wound up with 14 championships over 14 years. Now Carolina is looking to add their second since I've been here. Why the hell didn't my magic work in Buffalo. Get back to Buffalo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 (edited) Well ordinarily I would agree, but I happen to think that if Manning is going to win his second Super Bowl, he's going to have to have a great performance in the game. He played good today, and I think he will have to be much better the beat Carolina. If he has a great game and wins it, it absolutely should affect his legacy. Edit: But the idea that greatness can purely be measured by the number of championships is one that I too disagree with, if that is what you are getting at. Quarterbacks can get ones they don't deserve, and deserve ones they don't get. If Butler hadn't made that big play in the championship last year, would Brady's comeback in that game been any less impressive? Championships is and always has been a team achievement. It would have been wrong for Brady's legacy to have taken a hit had Butler not made that play. I actually feel like for a 15-1 team, they have been rather under-appreciated. We're on the same page--that's precisely what I was getting at. Your point re: Manning this time is well taken. Edit: As for Carolina, I'm still not sure how they're doing anything on offense with that roster. That defense is legit, but Cam isn't human. Edited January 25, 2016 by TrueBlueGED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJFIVEOH Posted January 25, 2016 Report Share Posted January 25, 2016 The bandwagon in Carolina is over crowded, but I'll deal as long as NE is done. Edit: I'm all in on Denver anyway since the law of misery loves company will not allow me to root for Carolina or Arizona to win their first super bowl before the Bills. Well, like they say, this is the best thing to happen to Carolina fans since Seattle went to the Super Bowl last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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