26CornerBlitz Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 @TSNBobMcKenzie If all goes as planned with NHL Competition Committee (today)/NHL GMs (Wed), Coach's Challenge is likely to be instituted next year, but... ...But, at this point, subject to change, goalie interference calls would NOT be amongst criteria a coach could challenge via video review. Until Comp Committee and GMs beat this up, nothing is in final form but limited and very specific Coach's Challenge appears to be the plan. Overdue or Slippery Slope? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPie Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 It'll be interesting to see what reviewable and what isn't. Reviews in the NFL make a lot of sense since the game is much more beholden to measurement and boundaries (were his feet in, did the ball cross this line, etc.). The NHL has far fewer of these situations, and most aren't "that" important. The only one that really matters is the goal line, and that's already covered. The only other one I could really think of is if an off-sides directly leads to a goal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't want to see coaches have any direct roll in the outcome of games other than who they send over the boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't want to see coaches have any direct roll in the outcome of games other than who they send over the boards. Unless it's Ron Rolston. He's not allowed to do that even... Probably for good reason. As for me, I'm glad they'll be bringing it in. BUT make sure it's quick. Put a time limit on these things and don't waste everybody's time by hiding behind inconclusive evidence on every call. Make the call that you see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueBlueGED Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Long overdue. If you're really worried about the flow of the game, just send it to commercial whenever there's a review. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 It'll be interesting to see what reviewable and what isn't. Reviews in the NFL make a lot of sense since the game is much more beholden to measurement and boundaries (were his feet in, did the ball cross this line, etc.). The NHL has far fewer of these situations, and most aren't "that" important. The only one that really matters is the goal line, and that's already covered. The only other one I could really think of is if an off-sides directly leads to a goal. I think everyone in Buffalo can think of one more, although it's not a rule anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) I think everyone in Buffalo can think of one more, although it's not a rule anymore. Yeah, but theoretically all potential goals are now reviewed so there's NO WAY a puck shot into the goal through the netting would count. ;) Oh, that's not the one you meant? Then surely you must mean either a blatently blown icing call resulting in an OT goal or a player being in the crease AND deflecting a puck into the net with a high stick which the ref refused to have reviewed. Oh, those aren't the one you meant either? No idea what you could possibly be referring to. :angel: Not bad. For 3 consecutive years, in the round the Sabres were eliminated, there was a call against them so egregious that the league changed a rule for the next season. :censored: Edited June 9, 2014 by Taro T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spndnchz Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 How many do they get? What do they lose, their one time out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Not sure hockey has the same black and white considerations outside of the goal. And that is already reveiwed. Maybe did the puck go out untouched? Did the player touch it, so no icing? I'm okay with reviewing did it go out, but I would think camera angles will be bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Not sure hockey has the same black and white considerations outside of the goal. And that is already reveiwed. Maybe did the puck go out untouched? Did the player touch it, so no icing? I'm okay with reviewing did it go out, but I would think camera angles will be bad. I've seen lots of bad offside calls that led directly to goals. Hope technology that definitively indicates a puck crossing the goal line comes to fruition some day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PASabreFan Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Whatever they do, they have to start communicating 1,000% better with the fans in the building and watching on TV. Yeah, I'm sure they'll get that part of it right. It's currently a joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'm with X on this one. I don't like it. Let the players on the ice decide the game. If you recall, I am about the only football fan that hates the goal line crap FIFA is doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I'm with X on this one. I don't like it. Let the players on the ice decide the game. If you recall, I am about the only football fan that hates the goal line crap FIFA is doing. That's the issue. Sometimes the players don't decide the game... The refs do. Allowing replay puts the game more in control of the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 That's the issue. Sometimes the players don't decide the game... The refs do. Allowing replay puts the game more in control of the players. No disrespect, but no it doesn't. It puts too much control on a coach. I rather keep the goal review by the league and let the refs manage the game ... well, or poorly, it does not matter to me. I do not want a coach to be able to dispute a call by a ref. The refing, good, or bad, is part of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 No disrespect, but no it doesn't. It puts too much control on a coach. I rather keep the goal review by the league and let the refs manage the game ... well, or poorly, it does not matter to me. I do not want a coach to be able to dispute a call by a ref. The refing, good, or bad, is part of the game. Linesmen miss an offside call that causes the Sabres to lose game 7 of the SCF. You'd be okay with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campy Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't want to see coaches have any direct roll in the outcome of games other than who they send over the boards. Agreed. I just don't think hockey is a sport that lends itself to replays - it seems sports with intermittent action like football and baseball are better-suited to have a replay system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 No disrespect, but no it doesn't. It puts too much control on a coach. I rather keep the goal review by the league and let the refs manage the game ... well, or poorly, it does not matter to me. I do not want a coach to be able to dispute a call by a ref. The refing, good, or bad, is part of the game. I'm not saying reffing isn't part of the game. I'm saying that replay doesn't actually take control away from the players. It gives them more. The players make the plays, and refs sometimes miss those plays. The coaches can only challenge what the players already did/didn't do. If limited it gives coaches only a little more control than they already have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 There area calls that are black and white and video review can eliminate human error. There are also calls that are not only judgement calls, but part of a larger system of balancing calls and game management internal to the refs during a game that should not be interfered with. I'd need to see the details before judging a video review system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X. Benedict Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) Linesmen miss an offside call that causes the Sabres to lose game 7 of the SCF. You'd be okay with that? I'd hate it. But I'd prefer that to stoppages with video replays. Before the 2005 lockout many games were beginning to creep up to 3 hours. The perfect game should be no longer than 2 hours 15 minutes. Edited June 9, 2014 by X. Benedict Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Linesmen miss an offside call that causes the Sabres to lose game 7 of the SCF. You'd be okay with that? Yes. I wouldn't like it, but I would be OK with it. We could just as easily win the cup on a missed offside call. Would you be OK with that? :P You don't have to answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Yes. I wouldn't like it, but I would be OK with it. We could just as easily win the cup on a missed offside call. Would you be OK with that? :P You don't have to answer. I don't want an asterisk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 I don't want an asterisk. Is that actually engraved on the cup ever? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26CornerBlitz Posted June 9, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Yes. I wouldn't like it, but I would be OK with it. We could just as easily win the cup on a missed offside call. Would you be OK with that? :P You don't have to answer. Truthfully, I'd detest either scenario. If there's an ability to get the call right, do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 Is that actually engraved on the cup ever? I am going to sneak into the HHOF and engrave one for 1999. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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