BuffaloBorn Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 I feel hesitant labeling him as a "bust" simply because Buffalo didn't draft him themselves, but should we be worried about him potentially be damaged goods? In 19 games played, Matt posts a .903 save percentage in the AHL. How does that translate to NHL? I think not good He was drafted in the third round (Jhonas was drafted 2nd round) so how high is his actual projected ceiling? Perhaps my expectations of him were too high when the Sabres first acquired him from Minnesota. On the contrary, a big of an under-dog in Nathan Lieuwen, he has been in net 13 times and posts a .913 save percentage after posting a statistical shut-out last night. (1-0 shootout loss)) Lieuwen was drafted in the 6th round. I think Hackett was seen as the clear #1 from the beginning in Rochester... but even his very first night it was an 8-1 loss when I presume he was in net for. What was your impression of Hackett when he was sent here? Am I reading too much into this? Probably the seasons not even over But it makes for some great discussion and will greatly entertain me. I'm not too worried though there's plenty of other promising goalies in the system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 It's tough to gauge a goaltender on his AHL numbers since most AHL teams suck. .903 sv% seems pretty reasonable to me in the AHL. I would also note the Amerks didn't have a very good start this year. That's not all on the goaltending. Hackett hasn't shocked anyone. But we wont really know his abilities unless we give him ice time with the Sabres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 I have high hopes for makarov myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunomatic Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 I have high hopes for makarov myself. Makhackarov ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 When you trade your captain for a guy, it's ok to consider whether to call him a "bust." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Give him a chance to play in the NHL for an extended period. He will get that opportunity unless Miller extends. I'm higher on Makarov and Ullmark than anybody, but I think an Enroth/Hackett tandem is a decent stop gap to keep it somewhat respectable during a tank next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 From the little I've read it seems like Hackett's pretty high-strung and the Amerks play Rn Rolston-style defensive system. Not the best combination. His pedigree — mostly his first taste of the NHL in Minny — was promising, but his tenure in Buffalo hasn't shown much beyond mediocrity. He will get his chance in the spring after Miller is traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doohickie Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Lol at a bunch of forum posters assessing NHL talent. Just wait and watch and we'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwksndmonster Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Lol at a bunch of forum posters assessing NHL talent. Just wait and watch and we'll see. Don't you know where you are? :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfreeman Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 When you trade your captain for a guy, it's ok to consider whether to call him a "bust." Abso-friggin-lutely. Especially after so many talking/posting heads crowed about how DR robbed Minnesota in the trade. So far, Minnesota has a really good player and the Sabres have 2 prospects (Larsson and Hackett) who have underperformed expectations (although it's way too early for any conclusions) and a third who looked promising but still got sent down to juniors. From the little I've read it seems like Hackett's pretty high-strung and the Amerks play Rn Rolston-style defensive system. Not the best combination. His pedigree — mostly his first taste of the NHL in Minny — was promising, but his tenure in Buffalo hasn't shown much beyond mediocrity. He will get his chance in the spring after Miller is traded. This has the cold ring of truth, even to us optimists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3putt Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 When you trade your captain for a guy, it's ok to consider whether to call him a "bust." Well to be fair we traded our captain for a first round pick plus Hackett and Larson. The pick looks like it may pay dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopefulFuture Posted December 21, 2013 Report Share Posted December 21, 2013 Wait, wat? We want a bust of Hackett in the atrium at FNC? A little premature to crown him already, right? :angel: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Crotch Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Well to be fair we traded our captain for a first round pick plus Hackett and Larson. The pick looks like it may pay dividends. ...plus a second this year. Maybe that second rounder will turn into a Hall of Famer. Hey, you never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robviously Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 So far, yes. The early returns on Zadorov and Larsson are good though. And that 2nd rounder is nice to have too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoss Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 There is no way you can see he has been a bust so far. He hasn't had a chance at all yet. There is no way for him to play without major injury or a trade and neither has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Well to be fair we traded our captain for a first round pick plus Hackett and Larson. The pick looks like it may pay dividends. That doesn't affect the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deluca67 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 The first indication that the player may end being a bust is when the first reaction is "who in the hell is Matt Hackett?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byebye Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Without a doubt, it is too early to tell. Even if it wasn't too early I don't think he was brought here to be more then a starter in Rochester or a backup due to an injury! So I would say, even with his sub par play as of late he is not a bust! Unless you had him penciled in to be a starter in Buffalo in the next couple years, then I say you bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inkman Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 Without a doubt, it is too early to tell. Even if it wasn't too early I don't think he was brought here to be more then a starter in Rochester or a backup due to an injury! I don't think any GM trades for a 22 year old goalie with the expectation that he'll only be a minor leaguer. The first indication that the player may end being a bust is when the first reaction is "who in the hell is Matt Hackett?" I'm sure 95% of Sabres fans said the same thing about a certain back up goalie they got from Chicago back in the early 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 The first indication that the player may end being a bust is when the first reaction is "who in the hell is Matt Hackett?" From real hockey fans or from Jo Blow? Because I think most of us were aware of Hackett before the trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleven Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 From real hockey fans or from Jo Blow? Because I think most of us were aware of Hackett before the trade. No doubt something Freudian in how you spelled that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Aud Smell Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 No doubt something Freudian in how you spelled that. Oh my. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksabre Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 No doubt something Freudian in how you spelled that. My phone doesn't recognize the male spelling anymore :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppy22 Posted December 23, 2013 Report Share Posted December 23, 2013 I am not concerned at all. From what I read and heard, it sounds like winning is everything for him. He get's supermad if he doesn't win. That's actually something I like. He does go over the top at times but I am ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byebye Posted December 25, 2013 Report Share Posted December 25, 2013 I don't think any GM trades for a 22 year old goalie with the expectation that he'll only be a minor leaguer. I would agree with you, good sir, If we had traded for the sole purpose of acquiring a goalie, we wouldn't want a minor leaguer, however in this scenario I think it was more of a take what you can get mentality! Especially with leggio set to become a Ufa. Perhaps there was aspirations he would become and nhl goaltender, but in reality I think he is going to be nothing more then an Amerk! Of course, I could be wrong. I'll double check with Darcy and get back to you I'm sure 95% of Sabres fans said the same thing about a certain back up goalie they got from Chicago back in the early 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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