PerreaultForever Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago (edited) Well it is basically the 4 firsts for an allstar price tag that the NHL set for offer sheets way back. It's kind of the standard. You have to hand it to Minnesota for going for it. There's a team that knows they have to be better now to get out of that "group of death" (using the World Cup term). It's likely an overpay if they don't sign him to an extension, but if they do, he's the best player in the deal and thus they win the deal. Isn't that the rule? idk, let's ask Eichel or Reinhart 🙂 All I can say for sure is "The Hockey Guy" (who is a Canucks fan) is really really not happy.   Edited 13 hours ago by PerreaultForever 1 Quote
Doohickie Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago I watched The Hockey Guy's (members only) video where he comments on the trade. He lives in Canucks territory and they're his #1 rooting interest. He basically sounds like Sabrespace in the aftermath of the Eichel trade. He even called the Canucks the worst run team in the history of the NHL. He's pretty despondent. We all know how he feels. Quote
Stads Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago Does this help Kevyn's chance of survival watching another GM be worse at their job? Quote
SabreFinn Posted 9 hours ago Report Posted 9 hours ago 8 hours ago, Sabres73 said: Nobody wants his ridiculous contract. Or the locker room cancer. I think the Hughes trade is the start of a major rebuild in Vancouver, which means they could retain a big part of EP40s salary, if they get a good return. 1 Quote
mjd1001 Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago Is Hughes as good as Dahlin (or better or worse?) How would everyone feel if Buffalo had a new GM and traded Dahlin for that return? 1 Quote
LGR4GM Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago 26 minutes ago, mjd1001 said: Is Hughes as good as Dahlin (or better or worse?) How would everyone feel if Buffalo had a new GM and traded Dahlin for that return? I don't like the return. Rossi is good. Ohgren, Buium, and a 2026 1st are all mystery boxes. If you're trading Dahlin, I need something like 2026 1st, Sam Dickinson, Will Smith. Igor Chernysov. Some will be mad I'm not saying more established players but that's never how these trades work. 1 Quote
Jorcus Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, mjd1001 said: Is Hughes as good as Dahlin (or better or worse?) How would everyone feel if Buffalo had a new GM and traded Dahlin for that return? Hughes is not as good a two way player as Dahlin. He is like Makar, smaller super skilled D man that use that speed and skill to get the puck where it needs to go. The trade was about circumstance. If the new GM made that trade I would want the old one back. It wouldn't happen though because Dahlin is under contract for longer and I don't think a new GM is going to come in and do a full rebuild. The Quinn trade was so similar to the Eichel trade they must have used it as a blueprint. So far that helped Vegas a lot more than it helped us and I expect this will have a similar result. Marty and Duff were asking Shana Goldman a few weeks ago about how good the Thompson contract looks compared to the new signings. Her reply was the best looking one was Dahlin's and I could see her point. If he were to hit the market today your probably looking at 15 million per year or more. So that will be the issue with Quinn when it comes time. I am sure the Wild will be willing. Now it will be up to Quinn. Edited 4 hours ago by Jorcus Quote
quill Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, mjd1001 said: Is Hughes as good as Dahlin (or better or worse?) How would everyone feel if Buffalo had a new GM and traded Dahlin for that return? I would hate it if Dahlin was traded, period. No one else on this team can carry the puck our of our own zone like he can, and that's just the least of his assets. If Dahlin was on some other team we'd all be wishing we could trade half our team for him. Under a new GM, anyone else could go, but not Dahlin. Edited 4 hours ago by quill 1 Quote
shrader Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, mjd1001 said: Is Hughes as good as Dahlin (or better or worse?) How would everyone feel if Buffalo had a new GM and traded Dahlin for that return? People will argue over who is better, but Dahlin is a more valuable commodity at this point thanks to the 6 years left on his contract. 1 Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 11 hours ago, SabresBillsFan said: I wouldn’t sign in Minny. Just go to the Devils when his contract is up and the Wild loses this trade  big time They still get him for 2 more seasons at least as his contract doesn't expire until 2027. Quote
PASabreFan Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, mjd1001 said: Is Hughes as good as Dahlin (or better or worse?) How would everyone feel if Buffalo had a new GM and traded Dahlin for that return? I would love it. He is a face of losing. Dahlin would be happy, and the Sabres could jump start a reset. They just don't have enough good players. If the Sabres are on Power's timeline now, it makes even more sense. Quote
PASabreFan Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 47 minutes ago, quill said: I would hate it if Dahlin was traded, period. No one else on this team can carry the puck our of our own zone like he can, and that's just the least of his assets. If Dahlin was on some other team we'd all be wishing we could trade half our team for him. Under a new GM, anyone else could go, but not Dahlin. Sorry, I'm not interested in someone who hasn't made much of an impact on the bottom line. You can lose with or without him. Tell me, do other fan bases dream of getting Rasmus Dahlin? Quote
LGR4GM Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 3 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: I would love it. He is a face of losing. Dahlin would be happy, and the Sabres could jump start a reset. They just don't have enough good players. If the Sabres are on Power's timeline now, it makes even more sense. Lmfao. Power has never even come with a tier of Dahlin. We're not on any timeline involving him. 1 minute ago, PASabreFan said: Sorry, I'm not interested in someone who hasn't made much of an impact on the bottom line. You can lose with or without him. Tell me, do other fan bases dream of getting Rasmus Dahlin? Crusade on. Quote
PASabreFan Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago And you keep on losin'. I'll say the same thing about Thompson. What is the haul for both of them? LGR would have rocked that Barry Sanders jersey back in the day. Quote
GoPuckYourself Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, mjd1001 said: Is Hughes as good as Dahlin (or better or worse?) How would everyone feel if Buffalo had a new GM and traded Dahlin for that return? Hughes is better in every statistical category accept for goals, Hughes has more assists, more points in less games played, better +/-, more time on ice/game. I'm not sure defensively how they stack up but if i were a gambling man I'd say Hughes was better defensively as well. Also to answer your question I don't want even more young guys on the team, can't we build a solid team around Thompson, Dahlin, Benson, Samuelsson, Doan and Mcleod instead of blowing this up all over again? Can't a solid GM work with this? Just asking in general. Quote
JohnC Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Sorry, I'm not interested in someone who hasn't made much of an impact on the bottom line. You can lose with or without him. Tell me, do other fan bases dream of getting Rasmus Dahlin? I don't know what other fan bases want but I'm confident that every GM in the league would be interested in acquiring Dahlin. Dahlin like Eichel hadn't made an impact on the bottom line because our bottom line was so far under that no one player was going to raise a sunken ship. If the Eichel trade didn't give you a lesson on how not to improve the roster, then a prospective Dahlin trade will also not teach you an obvious lesson on what not to do. 2 Quote
Brawndo Posted 3 hours ago Author Report Posted 3 hours ago 11 hours ago, LGR4GM said: Buium should have done another year of college. Ohgren surprises me a little, I liked him more than Östlund. Looks like I got that one wrong. Unless they win a cup. Then why would they care? They have two swings at with Hughes, I love the ballsy move Guerin made, unfortunately they are going to play Colorado in either the first or second round Quote
quill Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 25 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: Sorry, I'm not interested in someone who hasn't made much of an impact on the bottom line. You can lose with or without him. Tell me, do other fan bases dream of getting Rasmus Dahlin? Sure, let's trade away our best player. Makes a lot of sense just like trading Eichel and Reinhardt did. And if you think Rasmus Dahlin hasn't made much of an impact with this team, then you must have him mixed up with Rasmus Sandin. Quote
Archie Lee Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 39 minutes ago, PASabreFan said: And you keep on losin'. I'll say the same thing about Thompson. What is the haul for both of them? LGR would have rocked that Barry Sanders jersey back in the day. I would prefer we let them play under a NHL level HC and staff, before we dump them.  Let’s try something new. 1 Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 6 hours ago, SabreFinn said: I think the Hughes trade is the start of a major rebuild in Vancouver, which means they could retain a big part of EP40s salary, if they get a good return. Vancouver is like Buffalo. Both franchises have made it to the Cup but can’t win it all. Both have had some great players but in the end most players in today’s nhl don’t want to be in certain cities. Throw Calgary in that conversation as well. All three of these cities need to draft well or they are doomed! 22 minutes ago, Brawndo said: They have two swings at with Hughes, I love the ballsy move Guerin made, unfortunately they are going to play Colorado in either the first or second round They ain’t beating Colorado or Dallas. 1 Quote
JohnC Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 10 hours ago, Doohickie said: I watched The Hockey Guy's (members only) video where he comments on the trade. He lives in Canucks territory and they're his #1 rooting interest. He basically sounds like Sabrespace in the aftermath of the Eichel trade. He even called the Canucks the worst run team in the history of the NHL. He's pretty despondent. We all know how he feels. I had the same sensation. He sounds like a demoralized Sabre fan. It's like a reprise of the Eichel situation.  Quote
OverPowerYou Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago The wild have done nothing since their existence. They finally have a legit top tier player Quote
tom webster Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 40 minutes ago, Brawndo said: They have two swings at with Hughes, I love the ballsy move Guerin made, unfortunately they are going to play Colorado in either the first or second round Colorado, Dallas and Minnesota will beat upeach other in the first two rounds for at least the next two years. Quote
SabresBillsFan Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 17 minutes ago, OverPowerYou said: The wild have done nothing since their existence. They finally have a legit top tier player It’s Minnesota, don’t care if they ever do anything. Quote
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