Rumor: Tim Graham “Sources He has are strongly hinting this is the end for Kevyn Adams”

[Thorny]

14 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

His bottom line is a cop out. It doesn’t matter what he’s “building”. If it takes you 6 years to make the playoffs your plan sucks 

[Mr Peabody]

15 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

Curious.  Did Doug MacClean make the list?  I had seasons for Syracuse when he was CBJ GM. 

[Doohickie]

22 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

Terry is so happy with how well the 3 goalie rotation is working that he's going to hire a 3rd GM to work alongside Adams and Jarmo.

Superb.

[Doohickie]

20 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

 

Only Number 3?  Wow.

[Doohickie]

6 minutes ago, Thorny said:

His bottom line is a cop out. It doesn’t matter what he’s “building”. If it takes you 6 years to make the playoffs your plan sucks 

I think since he's still in place, it's his way of giving Adams an "Incomplete" grade.  If it were rewritten next week after Adams gets canned *fingers crossed*, maybe they move him to Number 1.

[Taro T]

5 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

I don't mind Adam's having another role in the organization. Hopefully it's just that higher up in the hockey department. 

Give him some kind of a hybrid role where he talks to the hockey people and works on the business side of things. Just they really got to flush out this entire front office.

Was there about a year ago.  Now, just want him out.  Him and Forton.  Let Kekalainen be the POHO and interim GM.  Figure out who the next coach should be before this season ends and hire a real GM in the spring/summer.

[LGR4GM]

14 minutes ago, Thorny said:

His bottom line is a cop out. It doesn’t matter what he’s “building”. If it takes you 6 years to make the playoffs your plan sucks 

[Mustache of God]

40 minutes ago, pi2000 said:

i don't believe there's anything to any of this.

Could be a franchise defining moment though...

[Flashsabre]

What has Adams built in 6 years?  This team is no closer to a playoff spot than when he started. Goaltending has always been a mess under his watch. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Maybe my going to see David Byrne was a positive omen.  

[LGR4GM]

20 minutes ago, mjd1001 said:

I don't mind Adam's having another role in the organization. Hopefully it's just that higher up in the hockey department. 

Give him some kind of a hybrid role where he talks to the hockey people and works on the business side of things. Just they really got to flush out this entire front office.

No, he needs to be gone. Adams can go back to harbor center. 

1 minute ago, Flashsabre said:

What has Adams built in 6 years?  This team is no closer to a playoff spot than when he started. Goaltending has always been a mess under his watch. 

It's further away. 

[Huckleberry]

19 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

Only Number 3?  Wow.

Not ready but I would garth snow higher than Adams 😛

Edit: Never mind seems he inherited a lot of Mike 

Edited 3 hours ago by Huckleberry

[DarthEbriate]

We’ll all believe it when we see it. 
 

For me, you have to excise the entirety of the cancer. That means no Adams to POHO. I don’t even want him on the organization on the business side. His entire Sabres career has been the downward spiral of this franchise.

Someone else needs to set the culture and expectations. Not Pegula’s friend. Someone else needs to hire the GM and help interview the coaches. There are players that need fresh starts, too. But the department needs a mission and a winning mindset. These people do not have it. 

[Thorny]

1 minute ago, DarthEbriate said:

We’ll all believe it when we see it. 
 

For me, you have to excise the entirety of the cancer. That means no Adams to POHO. I don’t even want him on the organization on the business side. His entire Sabres career has been the downward spiral of this franchise.

Someone else needs to set the culture and expectations. Not Pegula’s friend. Someone else needs to hire the GM and help interview the coaches. There are players that need fresh starts, too. But the department needs a mission and a winning mindset. These people do not have it. 

This is the way. 

[inkman]

10 minutes ago, Mustache of God said:

Could be a franchise defining moment though...

Could just be someone looking for clicks 

[inkman]

49 minutes ago, nfreeman said:

If it happens, by far the most likely outcome is that Jarmo gets the job.

If it is Jarmo, and he doesn't fire everyone, then we'll be stuck in business as usual mode and they will continue to stink.

If he does fire everyone, there will be some hope.

What does everyone mean?  I get the scouts and whatever asst GMs they have wondering about but replacing an entire coaching staff for both NHL & AHL ain’t easy.  

[#freejame]

If they don’t fire everyone, it’s the same as firing no one. The whole organization has the stank of death to it. 

[Thorny]

13 minutes ago, #freejame said:

If they don’t fire everyone, it’s the same as firing no one. The whole organization has the stank of death to it. 

Adams is *the* symbol for lack of accountability. I think the ripple effects down through the organization of his firing (especially as things get increasingly rank and file) can be notable - depending on how long they wait. Simply not extending his contract sends much less impactful a message than firing him when you don’t strictly have to 

Adams was hired under the mandate of improving culture - ironically it appears the only way Adams is capable of positively affecting culture is through his axing 

Edited 3 hours ago by Thorny

[Porous Five Hole]

Prediction and I hope I’m wrong.

POHO: Jarmo (remote)

GM: Karmanos (remote)

Hockey Ops unchanged with some additional emphasis on analytics.  
Coaching staff finishes the year.  
 

 

[msw2112]

1 hour ago, bunomatic said:

It reminds of the time the brand new scoreboard /clock fell to the ice. Out with the old, in with the new?

I remember that vividly.  I was living in Chicago at the time, but coming into Buffalo that weekend with a good friend of mine.  It was his first trip to Buffalo and his first Sabres game.  We had great seats, etc. and were really looking forward to it.  I always liked to bring friends to Buffalo for Bills & Sabres games, as they are always impressed by how much fun the city is.  Obviously, the game was postponed.  Now I bring my kids....

Edited 3 hours ago by msw2112

[Flashsabre]

The problem is this organization hasn’t done a “real search” for a GM or coach in 6 years. More than just firing people, they have to actually do the work to find quality people, not just lackeys that have charmed Pegula in a conversation.

[Thorny]

Just now, Flashsabre said:

The problem is this organization hasn’t done a “real search” for a GM or coach in 6 years. More than just firing people, they have to actually do the work to find quality people, not just lackeys that have charmed Pegula in a conversation.

I think Jarmo would count 

[Flashsabre]

3 minutes ago, Thorny said:

I think Jarmo would count 

OK I would agree but we have no idea what his real role is in decisions and if he was an Adams choice or Pegula choice. If he was a Terry choice I would be a little more confident that he is atleast starting to take things more seriously. But if Jarmo becomes GM and is handcuffed by having to make Appert coach then nothing will change.

[Thorny]

6 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

OK I would agree but we have no idea what his real role is in decisions and if he was an Adams choice or Pegula choice. If he was a Terry choice I would be a little more confident that he is atleast starting to take things more seriously. But if Jarmo becomes GM and is handcuffed by having to make Appert coach then nothing will change.

Candidly I don’t understand the extremity of the stances we see so often when it comes to Adams and GM in general 

“nothing will change”

You may not be aware but I personally don’t like Kevyn Adams as GM. Maybe it’s slipped through the cracks. I think he’s one of the worst GMs I’ve seen - but even THIS man came one point short of the playoffs 3 years ago. 

The idea there’s a magical unsurpassable barrier *right there* is absurd. “Pegula GMS can demonstrably only get to one point short of the playoffs.” Of course that’s not true. There is no logical way to say or explain why a better GM than Adams couldn’t gain a couple more points in the standings 

the sabres won. Our expectations are incredibly low. They did it- we only need the bare minimum to be satisfied. The rub is that they haven’t done even that. The hope is that it remains imminently attainable

Adams is a relatively *bad GM*, folks. He almost made the playoffs here. YES one improvement to the front can make a difference. Of course it can. With this franchise and its fans it can make all the difference in the world 

[Sidc3000]

I don’t see anything happening until after the reunion game