Rumor: Tim Graham “Sources He has are strongly hinting this is the end for Kevyn Adams”

[kas23]

Terry: “Hey Kevvie, I have an extremely important mission for you. I’m sorry it will take you away from your playing GM tasks, but there’s reports there are leaks in the roof of the arena. You must figure out the scope of this issue and report back to me. I’m looking at you to take the lead here, alright buddy? Now go.”

[Mango]

5 hours ago, kas23 said:

“I always felt that if he wasn’t GM he’s going to another role” 

 

“nvm”

 

Hate to say it, but let’s hope they drop the Vancouver and Kraken games. It’s for the greater good. Winning both would ultimately be bad for the long term health of the team. 

Let Lindy keep going after him publicly. Win or lose, somebody in the org needs to start screaming publicly that the call is coming from inside the house. 

[Big Guava]

Terry: Hey Kevin...go get your f***ing shine box

 

[JohnC]

10 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

 

If Adams is replaced as GM he simply cannot be promoted to another position in Hockey Operations.  That would create problems, factions, and confusion.  

He could possibly go back to Business Admin, or back to Harbor Center, but even that is awkward.  

If KA is removed from the GM position, it’s unlikely he will have any meaningful influence on hockey decisions. Even if he was given the title of POHO, it will carry little influence in the hockey side of the business. 
 

For the sake of argument, let’s assume Jarmo takes over the GM job. If Jarmo wants to make a trade and KA disagrees in his POHO role, KA would be ignored.

[mjd1001]

30 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

 

If Adams is replaced as GM he simply cannot be promoted to another position in Hockey Operations.  That would create problems, factions, and confusion.  

He could possibly go back to Business Admin, or back to Harbor Center, but even that is awkward.  

This is what I get for posting on my phone and talking to it and allowing it to use voice recognition. 

I meant to say that his position is NOT higher up in the the hockey organization... But it came out that it is higher up in the organization. 

My post was to say I'm okay with him not getting fired as long as he's on the business side of things and not having input into hockey anymore.

On a side note, I really don't know how people live off of their phones. Not only does voice recognition not work, but I'm posting this on my phone now and every time I have to make a correction I could swear I'm touching one letter on the virtual keyboard but yet it's registering as the letter next to it. 

I so much prefer a full size monitor and a regular keyboard to using a phone or a tablet.

[Eli Cash]

21 minutes ago, Mango said:

Let Lindy keep going after him publicly. Win or lose, somebody in the org needs to start screaming publicly that the call is coming from inside the house. 

Has this happened?  Either directly or indirectly?  I think I missed this.

[Spoonman]

46 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

 

If Adams is replaced as GM he simply cannot be promoted to another position in Hockey Operations.  That would create problems, factions, and confusion.  

He could possibly go back to Business Admin, or back to Harbor Center, but even that is awkward.  

KA can move in FLA Pegula compound to take care of palm trees & also avoid state taxes….he can continue to talk w TP (on Palm tree status) every day.

 

Edited 51 minutes ago by Spoonman

[Pimlach]

8 minutes ago, JohnC said:

If KA is removed from the GM position, it’s unlikely he will have any meaningful influence on hockey decisions. Even if he was given the title of POHO, it will carry little influence in the hockey side of the business. 
 

For the sake of argument, let’s assume Jarmo takes over the GM job. If Jarmo wants to make a trade and KA disagrees in his POHO role, KA would be ignored.

I can't agree. What you just described is the opposite of how it works.   

If Adams is POHO with no influence on hockey operations then he is not a POHO and should not be given the title.   Adams has enough self respect to not take a figurehead job.  Pegula would not do that to him either.  

This is a business, its hockey business, and personal feelings are not the first priority in any sports business world.  Executives get paid a lot, they work in a cut throat environment, POHO/GM is a results oriented job, and they get fired when their time is up.

[Spoonman]

5 minutes ago, Eli Cash said:

Has this happened?  Either directly or indirectly?  I think I missed this.

Lindy has made side eye comments about 3 G, et… implicating KA & his total inability to make a decision.

[Spoonman]

48 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

 

If Adams is replaced as GM he simply cannot be promoted to another position in Hockey Operations.  That would create problems, factions, and confusion.  

He could possibly go back to Business Admin, or back to Harbor Center, but even that is awkward.  

KA can move in FLA Pegula compound to take care of palm trees & also avoid state taxes….he can continue to talk w TP (on Palm tree status) every day.

[Flashsabre]

Adams and Jarmo as Co GMs and neither one is allowed to communicate with the other. Let the chaos ensue😁

[Spoonman]

8 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I can't agree. What you just described is the opposite of how it works.   

If Adams is POHO with no influence on hockey operations then he is not a POHO and should not be given the title.   Adams has enough self respect to not take a figurehead job.  Pegula would not do that to him either.  

This is a business, its hockey business, and personal feelings are not the first priority in any sports business world.  Executives get paid a lot, they work in a cut throat environment, POHO/GM is a results oriented job, and they get fired when their time is up.

I can’t agree.

You say: Adams has enough self respect to not take a figurehead job.

Riiight. He did so 5yrs.ago. 
 

🙄👀💀

[PASabreFan]

44 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Promoting Adams to director of arena operations is the Xmas gift we have been waiting for since he was hired.  

Moving on from Adams must happen for this franchise to survive.  

I’m more than ready for Jarmo to take over and start reshaping the roster.  He needs to figure out what pieces are part of the solution.  He needs to start in goal. Unfortunately, I think we are stuck with UPL.  Therefore we must become a counter punch lock down defensive team.  That starts by moving on from Byram or Power and replacing them with a D first player.  

Who are the keeper pieces? - Doan, Benson, Dahlin, McLeod, Timmins, Samuelsson, Norris (only because we are stuck with him), and Tage.  Everyone else is expendable or replaceable. 

 

Why does it have to be "Jarmo"? Why can't we at least think big before being let down? Personally I don't want anyone who has had a hand in this fiasco to take over.

[Eleven]

2 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

What changed after the Edmonton win? Are they going to give him more time if he wins again? 

I don't know or care but I do expect you, as Meme Supervisor, to have some sort of "ding ***** witch is dead" thing ready to go. 

 

Omigosh, it censored D-O-N-G.

Edited 37 minutes ago by Eleven

[Spoonman]

9 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Why does it have to be "Jarmo"? Why can't we at least think big before being let down? Personally I don't want anyone who has had a hand in this fiasco to take over.

Good point. 

My concern is IF TP can get past his own ego to hire a POHO (Shanny, Briere…). 

Also, former Sabres in other hockey roles…McKee, Vanek, Miller etc.).

Edited 35 minutes ago by Spoonman

[Doohickie]

55 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I used to do that...

[JohnC]

8 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I can't agree. What you just described is the opposite of how it works.   

If Adams is POHO with no influence on hockey operations then he is not a POHO and should not be given the title.   Adams has enough self respect to not take a figurehead job.  Pegula would not do that to him either.  

This is a business, its hockey business, and personal feelings are not the first priority in any sports business world.  Executives get paid a lot, they work in a cut throat environment, POHO/GM is a results oriented job, and they get fired when their time is up.

Titles mean nothing in this aberrant organization. It doesn’t matter what title he is given. From a hockey operational standpoint he  will have no influence. This is a Terry P created organization that doesn’t follow the normal standards and practices of a genuine NHL franchise. The aloof owner acts on his own whims. He empowers and un-empowers whoever he wants. I’m confident that if removed from the GM position and then given a lofty title KA will then be neutered as a factor in actual hockey decisions. 

[LGR4GM]

Removing Adams is only step 1. Multiple others need to go as well. 

[JohnC]

4 minutes ago, Doohickie said:

I used to do that...

How many dishes did you break per day? On payday did you end up owing more $$$ to the company than you ended up with on payday? 😀

[PromoTheRobot]

I listened to the TGAF pod. Not much more said than "I heard something."

[GASabresIUFAN]

11 minutes ago, PASabreFan said:

Why does it have to be "Jarmo"? Why can't we at least think big before being let down? Personally I don't want anyone who has had a hand in this fiasco to take over.

I don’t think Jarmo has had anything to do with the fiasco.  The fiasco was in place when he got here. 

I hate to write this but Doan and Timmins were solid off-season acquisitions and the PK and overall defense are improved year over year. The issue remains a failure to upgrade the goaltending, and get top 6 playmaking help.  These issues are nothing new and that ultimately is Adam’s ultimate sin.  He tinkered with the bottom of the roster, never addressed the key issues and the his rebuild has failed. 

[Spoonman]

3 hours ago, pi2000 said:

i'll believe it when it happens, this is all conjecture

[PromoTheRobot]

3 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

I don’t think Jarmo has had anything to do with the fiasco.  The fiasco was in place when he got here. 

I hate to write this but Doan and Timmins were solid off-season acquisitions and the PK and overall defense are improved year over year. The issue remains a failure to upgrade the goaltending, and get top 6 playmaking help.  These issues are nothing new and that ultimately is Adam’s ultimate sin.  He tinkered with the bottom of the roster, never addressed the key issues and the his rebuild has failed. 

They brought in two new goalies but we are still letting teams go to our crease untouched. Lyon and Ellis might be upgrades but you'd never know playing behind these maroons.

Edited 21 minutes ago by PromoTheRobot

[Thorny]

35 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I can't agree. What you just described is the opposite of how it works.   

If Adams is POHO with no influence on hockey operations then he is not a POHO and should not be given the title.   Adams has enough self respect to not take a figurehead job.  Pegula would not do that to him either.  

This is a business, its hockey business, and personal feelings are not the first priority in any sports business world.  Executives get paid a lot, they work in a cut throat environment, POHO/GM is a results oriented job, and they get fired when their time is up.

Objection 

[Spoonman]

3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said:

I listened to the TGAF pod. Not much more said than "I heard something."

I saw something.