What if, we trade Owen Power

[LGR4GM]

The team isn't good enough. We need more Benson and Doan types.

I don't think Power is going to change his style enough and I think a 40-50pt defender of his size will have a lot of value around the league. If we move on, it hurts the defense but we could get a haul for him that might save the season. 

Is this premature? I don't think so but I think there will be a lot of varied opinions here. 

[The Jokeman]

2 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The team isn't good enough. We need more Benson and Doan types.

I don't think Power is going to change his style enough and I think a 40-50pt defender of his size will have a lot of value around the league. If we move on, it hurts the defense but we could get a haul for him that might save the season. 

Is this premature? I don't think so but I think there will be a lot of varied opinions here. 

It depends on the compensation, if we get a bottom pair Dman and top 6 forward back I'd take it. As I'll admit think Power is the poster child (next to Cozens) of guys who got paid way to early in their careers and have hurt this team more than helped. 

[Pimlach]

I think we hang on to him, let him play with Kesselring for awhile and see what happens.  We don't even know what we have with Kesselring yet, so it is too soon for me to trade Power.  Until Power hits 24-25 we wont know what his ceiling really is.  

On top of that I do not want Adams trading Power, his track record is not good enough and I want him out.  

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Pimlach

[inkman]

6 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The team isn't good enough. We need more Benson and Doan types.

I don't think Power is going to change his style enough and I think a 40-50pt defender of his size will have a lot of value around the league. If we move on, it hurts the defense but we could get a haul for him that might save the season. 

Is this premature? I don't think so but I think there will be a lot of varied opinions here. 

 

2 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

It depends on the compensation, if we get a bottom pair Dman and top 6 forward back I'd take it. As I'll admit think Power is the poster child (next to Cozens) of guys who got paid way to early in their careers and have hurt this team more than helped. 

 

2 minutes ago, Pimlach said:

I think we hang on to him, let him play with Kesselring for awhile and see what happens.  We don't even know what we have with Kesselring yet so it is so soon for me to trade Power.  Until Power hits 24-25 we wont know what his ceiling really is.  

On top of that I do not want Adams trading Power, his track record is not good enough and I want him out.  

 

There is a 0.0% chance Owen Power is traded.  Adams doesn’t have the guile or stones to pull it off. Also, anytime I utter something into the interwebs, I’m usually quickly thwarted as the exact opposite happens. Here’s hoping…

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

The team isn't good enough. We need more Benson and Doan types.

I don't think Power is going to change his style enough and I think a 40-50pt defender of his size will have a lot of value around the league. If we move on, it hurts the defense but we could get a haul for him that might save the season. 

Is this premature? I don't think so but I think there will be a lot of varied opinions here. 

It certainly is premature. As you yourself stated, he has a lot of value around the league. If that is the case, then why get rid of a talent that will shine for another team and leave a big hole that will need to be filled. Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing that we don't need more Doan and Benson type players on this roster. But it makes little sense to deal off a hard to replace defenseman whose return will not come close to the value sent packing. And why do it now when his probable partner is ready to return to the lineup? And as you and others have stated on many occasions: Why would you have our shallow GM making any deal, especially when he is in a position of weakness? Hard no for me. 

[Ctaeth]

1 minute ago, LGR4GM said:

The team isn't good enough. We need more Benson and Doan types.

I don't think Power is going to change his style enough and I think a 40-50pt defender of his size will have a lot of value around the league. If we move on, it hurts the defense but we could get a haul for him that might save the season. 

Is this premature? I don't think so but I think there will be a lot of varied opinions here. 

does it really though? 

he's getting to the point where what he is... is what he is.  he has shown no inclination towards changing in a way that will allow him to be better on our side of the rink.  if he had shown any willingness to engage to this point, I would say that this would be a bad idea.  but I just haven't seen it yet.  I'm starting to lean towards trading because I think his value is going to quickly depreciate as the luster of being the number 1 overall pick wears off.  

[LGR4GM]

1 minute ago, JohnC said:

It certainly is premature. As you yourself stated, he has a lot of value around the league. If that is the case, then why get rid of a talent that will shine for another team and leave a big hole that will need to be filled. Don't get me wrong, I'm not arguing that we don't need more Doan and Benson type players on this roster. But it makes little sense to deal off a hard to replace defenseman whose return will not come close to the value sent packing. And why do it now when his probable partner is ready to return to the lineup? And as you and others have stated on many occasions: Why would you have our shallow GM making any deal, especially when he is in a position of weakness? Hard no for me. 

My why is simple, he doesn't play hockey how I think the Sabres should. Maybe not a good reason but it's how I feel. 

1 minute ago, Ctaeth said:

does it really though? 

he's getting to the point where what he is... is what he is.  he has shown no inclination towards changing in a way that will allow him to be better on our side of the rink.  if he had shown any willingness to engage to this point, I would say that this would be a bad idea.  but I just haven't seen it yet.  I'm starting to lean towards trading because I think his value is going to quickly depreciate as the luster of being the number 1 overall pick wears off.  

It hurts the defense in the short term. Mrtka impo will make Power expendable but that's 2years away. 

[xzy89c1]

Power is a bust for the first overall pick at this point. He is not looked at favorably around the league as some people think on this board. The more he plays the more he is exposed. If he had to play against other teams best players he would be in deep trouble. We have far too many soft defenseman. Power, bowen, Samuelson, Bryson. Timmins is average and dahling is only physical guy.

[JohnC]

28 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

My why is simple, he doesn't play hockey how I think the Sabres should. Maybe not a good reason but it's how I feel. 

 

As you well know I have been a consistent advocate for him in contrast to a lot of his critics. The source of much of the criticisms of him relate to his style of play. For the most part, his style of play is not going to change. He's not a thumper, and never will be. That is not to say that there isn't a need for that type of blueliner, but he will not fit that role because that isn't who he is as a player. I'm hoping that when Kesserling returns that it will enhance Power's play even more. TBD. 

[LabattBlue]

2 minutes ago, JohnC said:

As you well know I have been a consistent advocate for him in contrast to a lot of his critics. The source of much of the criticisms of him relate to his style of play. For the most part, his style of play is not going to change. He's not a thumper, and never will be. That is not to say that there isn't a need for that type of blueliner, but he will not fit that role because that isn't who he is as a player. I'm hoping that when Kesserling returns that it will enhance Power's play even more. TBD. 

This has been addressed countless times.  Power doesn’t need to be a “thumper”.  Just stop playing defense like only stick checking is allowed. 

[tom webster]

51 minutes ago, LGR4GM said:

The team isn't good enough. We need more Benson and Doan types.

I don't think Power is going to change his style enough and I think a 40-50pt defender of his size will have a lot of value around the league. If we move on, it hurts the defense but we could get a haul for him that might save the season. 

Is this premature? I don't think so but I think there will be a lot of varied opinions here. 

I’m always open to a trade but the only way Power is going anywhere this early in his career is if a top four forward, preferably a center is coming back. Power is never going to be the player some want him to be, but he is going to be a top pairing defenseman whose contract is going to be a bargain when the cap hits $125M or more.

[#freejame]

Power looked lost multiple times last night. 

[Drag0nDan]

47 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

 

There is a 0.0% chance Owen Power is traded.  Adams doesn’t have the guile or stones to pull it off. Also, anytime I utter something into the interwebs, I’m usually quickly thwarted as the exact opposite happens. Here’s hoping…

Truthfully - Adams shouldn't be allowed to trade him.  Let a new GM come in and evaluate.  

[JohnC]

1 minute ago, LabattBlue said:

This has been addressed countless times.  Power doesn’t need to be a “thumper”.  Just stop playing defense like only stick checking is allowed. 

Power didn't play a bad game last night. Why is he being singled out? I'm not saying he was superb but it wasn't at a negative level where he should be highlighted. In this game, Montreal was the better team. They were the faster and quicker team while we were the lagging team. (That's how I saw it. Others might have seen it differently.) If it weren't for the play of Lyon, the Sabres would have been overwhelmed.)

2 minutes ago, #freejame said:

Power looked lost multiple times last night. 

He wasn't the only player who at times was out of place. 

[JP51]

1 hour ago, LGR4GM said:

The team isn't good enough. We need more Benson and Doan types.

I don't think Power is going to change his style enough and I think a 40-50pt defender of his size will have a lot of value around the league. If we move on, it hurts the defense but we could get a haul for him that might save the season. 

Is this premature? I don't think so but I think there will be a lot of varied opinions here. 

Couple schools of thought...  a tiger doesnt change his stripes... and he is really young lets see what happens when he plays with a complimentary defender... 

My thought.... I have said repeatedly the I am not against trading anyone as long as we get the best player in the trade....  So sure trade him if you are getting the best player in the deal... I think we all know that this is not happening... as we won't have stars with no trade clauses looking to come here... so its we get lesser pieces and picks...  2nd. Kevyn Adams is still GM and I dont want him trading anyone...  so, I guess I am a no. 

 

[LabattBlue]

9 minutes ago, JohnC said:

Power didn't play a bad game last night. Why is he being singled out?

I didn’t even watch.  Just a general comment about Power’s game. 

[DarthEbriate]

As long as Adams is GM, we're on the Power timeline. Just wait until he's 25. Then we'll all see!

The issues are -- there are great young offensive defensemen everywhere these days, just draft one for yourself. Power will never get the point production to increase his trade value or justify his contract unless Dahlin is hurt. As we saw last season, when Dahlin is out, Power doesn't exactly elevate his game. He doesn't have intensity.

[Mustache of God]

I still can't believe the contract Adams gave him. OP is almost untradeable, the only thing he has is his draft pedigree.

[K-9]

Power was rushed into the lineup way too early as a teenager and for all the complaining we do about prospects that were thrust into the NHL before they were ready, I do don’t recall seeing much of that with regards to Power. He is literally developing on the job as he continues to grow into his man body. That said, he is already a very good offensive D man.

Get back to me in a couple years. 

[inkman]

4 minutes ago, Mustache of God said:

I still can't believe the contract Adams gave him. OP is almost untradeable, the only thing he has is his draft pedigree.

This is just not true.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/ceu1TDkM3L

[kas23]

Not sure we would get a “haul” for him. Even if another GM believes he can polish a turd into a diamond, he’s not going to pay much when Power is at his lowest value. Maybe we get a top 6 forward, but in reality we’d get a bunch of spare part cap dumps. 

[Mustache of God]

18 minutes ago, inkman said:

This is just not true.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hockey/s/ceu1TDkM3L

That post is from November 2024, right before the wheels fell off before the November skid. 

Power ended up finishing 17th in even strength points by defensemen last year and was one of 3 players in the top 25 who had a +/- in the negative. 

At this point if you're trading him you're paying a team to take that contract off your hands and you're not going to get anywhere close to fair value of what you'd want from a former 1OA pick. 

[PASabreFan]

Just now, kas23 said:

Not sure we would get a “haul” for him. Even if another GM believes he can polish a turd into a diamond, he’s not going to pay much when Power is at his lowest value. Maybe we get a top 6 forward, but in reality we’d get a bunch of spare part cap dumps. 

Thank you for sayjng it for me better than I would have.

Sabres fans always think their yard sale junk is gonna bring top dollar.

[inkman]

1 hour ago, xzy89c1 said:

Power is a bust for the first overall pick at this point. He is not looked at favorably around the league as some people think on this board. The more he plays the more he is exposed. If he had to play against other teams best players he would be in deep trouble. We have far too many soft defenseman. Power, bowen, Samuelson, Bryson. Timmins is average and dahling is only physical guy.

 

29 minutes ago, Mustache of God said:

I still can't believe the contract Adams gave him. OP is almost untradeable, the only thing he has is his draft pedigree.

 

2 minutes ago, kas23 said:

Not sure we would get a “haul” for him. Even if another GM believes he can polish a turd into a diamond, he’s not going to pay much when Power is at his lowest value. Maybe we get a top 6 forward, but in reality we’d get a bunch of spare part cap dumps. 

The only place people view him negatively is in Sabre land. He’s a very gifted offensive defenseman that teams would give up a lot for. A team needing a PP QB and number one dman.  He can step in immediately and provide that to any team needing one. 

[PASabreFan]

3 minutes ago, inkman said:

 

 

The only place people view him negatively is in Sabre land. He’s a very gifted offensive defenseman that teams would give up a lot for. A team needing a PP QB and number one dman.  He can step in immediately and provide that to any team needing one. 

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