Ok Enough Terry - Fire Ruff Adams and the Assistants!

[GASabresIUFAN]

Three listless games to start the season including two embarrassing losses at home.  2 total goals, 0% on the PP.  -8 differential in just 3 games.  

Objectively there are only 2 top 6 players on this current roster in Tage and Tuch.  There is only 1 defender worth a crap in Dahlin.  

Adams created this mess, but the coaches can’t get them to even work at all.

The coaches and Adams need to go now before this season is done.  It’s close to over already.

 

[Porous Five Hole]

This is only the correct move if Jarmo is moving to Buffalo and is the next GM. If that, then be can backchannel a new coach AND new assistants that aren’t currently employed. 
 

Otherwise, you’re promoting from within on an interim basis and that might literally be worse.  

[Bangarang]

How the front office and coaching staff actually kept their jobs in the first place is hilarious. I guess since their contracts are all up after this year Terry didn't want to pay more people not to work for him. 

[mjd1001]

11 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

How the front office and coaching staff actually kept their jobs in the first place is hilarious. I guess since their contracts are all up after this year Terry didn't want to pay more people not to work for him. 

As I said before, most things with Pegula after the first year or two of ownership have been about (or a combination of) being a.) Cheap  b.) a shortcut c.) about nostalgia  d.) about him not hiring anyone that will talk back to him  

[jad1]

1 hour ago, Porous Five Hole said:

This is only the correct move if Jarmo is moving to Buffalo and is the next GM. If that, then be can backchannel a new coach AND new assistants that aren’t currently employed. 
 

Otherwise, you’re promoting from within on an interim basis and that might literally be worse.  

How can it be any more worse than it is now?

The Sabres have the worst GM in the history of the NHL, and the owner doesn't seem to give a F.  

All this results in the most boring, uninspiring hockey that any fanbase has been subjected to.

So, you know, good times 

[HumanSlinky39]

Fire Ruff and the other clowns on the bench, go get DeBoer or Gallant. Do whatever it takes to get an established coach with a strong resume. No more promoting from within or mediocre retreads. Hell, get Boudreau. He may not be a long term answer but he has a track record of quick turnaround and can start moving things in the right direction.

[Demoted]

I kind of want to see how early they can be eliminated from the playoffs... let it ride.

[Porous Five Hole]

@Thorny, totally OK to disagree.  But how should it go tomorrow if everyone is fired tonight? What’s the plan?

[Flashsabre]

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/fans-chant-fire-adams-as-sabres-drop-to-0-3/
 

PLEASE let Adams have a media availability soon. We need another defiant man baby meltdown.😁

[HumanSlinky39]

Just now, Flashsabre said:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/fans-chant-fire-adams-as-sabres-drop-to-0-3/
 

PLEASE let Adams have a media availability soon. We need another defiant man baby meltdown.😁

Terry's too busy trying to find Penn State's next HC to hear those chants.

[apuszczalowski]

44 minutes ago, Porous Five Hole said:

@Thorny, totally OK to disagree.  But how should it go tomorrow if everyone is fired tonight? What’s the plan?

Does it really matter?

If they went with no GM or coach next game and just play the next game without them, Whats the worst that will happen? They lose another game? Only score 1 goal?

The problem is your probably not going to turn things around much cleaning house in season because most of the time theres no one really available to step right in and rarely has a team cleaned house of all the coaching staff and front office in season.

 

My biggest surprise so far this season is that people expected any different. The GM went out and did absolutely nothing to the roster to try and improve and like usual decided not to rock the boat and hope all the current guys just get better and add a few backup caliber guys to fill the rest of the roster......

[LGR4GM]

4 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

Does it really matter?

If they went with no GM or coach next game and just play the next game without them, Whats the worst that will happen? They lose another game? Only score 1 goal?

The problem is your probably not going to turn things around much cleaning house in season because most of the time theres no one really available to step right in and rarely has a team cleaned house of all the coaching staff and front office in season.

 

My biggest surprise so far this season is that people expected any different. The GM went out and did absolutely nothing to the roster to try and improve and like usual decided not to rock the boat and hope all the current guys just get better and add a few backup caliber guys to fill the rest of the roster......

I think there's no one who expected different. Maybe a couple ppl. I do think a lot of us hoped for different. Idk if that distinction matters.

[Bangarang]

15 minutes ago, Flashsabre said:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article/fans-chant-fire-adams-as-sabres-drop-to-0-3/
 

PLEASE let Adams have a media availability soon. We need another defiant man baby meltdown.😁

The last time Adams made himself available to the media he took a lot of heat and he gave some very annoyed responses. No chance he wants to do that again

 

[LGR4GM]

The Sabres are 1 of 2 teams with 0 points this season,  the other is the islanders. The Sabres are dead last in goals, goal differential, and points (cuz they have 0)

[Scottysabres]

I got it! I’ve figured out Adams plan, he’s getting the 17 game losing streak out of the way early this season, so the players can focus on winning. Reverse psychology.

😉

[Porous Five Hole]

21 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said:

Does it really matter?

If they went with no GM or coach next game and just play the next game without them, Whats the worst that will happen? They lose another game? Only score 1 goal?

The problem is your probably not going to turn things around much cleaning house in season because most of the time theres no one really available to step right in and rarely has a team cleaned house of all the coaching staff and front office in season.

 

My biggest surprise so far this season is that people expected any different. The GM went out and did absolutely nothing to the roster to try and improve and like usual decided not to rock the boat and hope all the current guys just get better and add a few backup caliber guys to fill the rest of the roster......

Of course it matters lol

I am the type that is trying to come up with practical solutions. “Just don’t play with a coach” or “fire everyone, it doesn’t matter” is not the conversation I’m trying to have. 
 

Look at my posting history…I’ve wanted the GM gone for a long time.  So if people don’t want to talk about a short term & long term solution to coaching or the front office, then I guess I’m not in the correct thread or right place. 

[GASabresIUFAN]

Here is the plan.  
 

Step 1 - kick Adams upstairs or the curb, but if upstairs give him no hockey authority.  
 

Step 2 - promote Jarmo to GM

Step 3 - hire DeBoer behind the scenes, let him hire a staff

Step 4 - fire all the coaches when step 3 is finished

Step 5 - cut Bryson, Geersten, Danforth.   Promote kids who want an opportunity even if they aren’t quite good enough. At least they’ll try.  Östlund, Helenius, the Russian Ds, Rosen etc.  let’s see them all and see who wants to be an NHLer.  

Step 6 - start trading dead wood and try to find some actual NHLers at the deadline.  
 

Edit:  I forgot.  Step 7 - Find a friggin goalie.

Edited 4 hours ago by GASabresIUFAN

[nfreeman]

TP isn't firing anyone tonight.

But at some point he will have to act.  The pressure, including from the NHL, will be too great.

The question is when will the camel's back break.

If they start the season, say, 0-10?  I think KA and Lindy are gone.

But what if it's just 0-6?  Or 1-9 with a couple of OTLs?

We all know the answer:  TP will stall and delay and hem and haw until Thanksgiving, or New Year's, or the Spring for that matter.

In the meantime, everyone can see that the wheels are falling off, and it's a question of when, not if.

Thanks for another great season, Terry and Kevyn!  Great job!

[SwampD]

1 hour ago, nfreeman said:

TP isn't firing anyone tonight.

But at some point he will have to act.  The pressure, including from the NHL, will be too great.

The question is when will the camel's back break.

If they start the season, say, 0-10?  I think KA and Lindy are gone.

But what if it's just 0-6?  Or 1-9 with a couple of OTLs?

We all know the answer:  TP will stall and delay and hem and haw until Thanksgiving, or New Year's, or the Spring for that matter.

In the meantime, everyone can see that the wheels are falling off, and it's a question of when, not if.

Thanks for another great season, Terry and Kevyn!  Great job!

Worst. Owner. Ever.

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, apuszczalowski said:

Does it really matter?

If they went with no GM or coach next game and just play the next game without them, Whats the worst that will happen? They lose another game? Only score 1 goal?

The problem is your probably not going to turn things around much cleaning house in season because most of the time theres no one really available to step right in and rarely has a team cleaned house of all the coaching staff and front office in season.

 

My biggest surprise so far this season is that people expected any different. The GM went out and did absolutely nothing to the roster to try and improve and like usual decided not to rock the boat and hope all the current guys just get better and add a few backup caliber guys to fill the rest of the roster......

I didn't expect any different. Every off season we say the same thing and it goes something like this - "in order to win we need every good player to have another great year, and we need all three prospects to take a big step up."   We never say we added 3 impact players.  We never say we shored up the goaltending.  We never say we brought in winning veteran leadership.   Never.  

That no compete game against Boston was horrific.  I was a bit surprised that the team already quit on Ruff, they often play better on the road without crowd pressure.   

The mental impact of losing Norris seems to frustrate they key players who were counting on him.  A sign that out vets have never accomplished anything.  

 

[Pimlach]

1 hour ago, nfreeman said:

TP isn't firing anyone tonight.

But at some point he will have to act.  The pressure, including from the NHL, will be too great.

The question is when will the camel's back break.

If they start the season, say, 0-10?  I think KA and Lindy are gone.

But what if it's just 0-6?  Or 1-9 with a couple of OTLs?

We all know the answer:  TP will stall and delay and hem and haw until Thanksgiving, or New Year's, or the Spring for that matter.

In the meantime, everyone can see that the wheels are falling off, and it's a question of when, not if.

Thanks for another great season, Terry and Kevyn!  Great job!

Rico if that happens there will be severe damage to the fan base. 

Just put Jarmo in there and see if he can find a coach. 

Overpay DeBoer or bring up Leone, just do something.  

[clink]

Buffalo sports 

 

Where dreams go to die....

 

What a WTF Monday THAT was! 😵

[PerreaultForever]

3 hours ago, LGR4GM said:

The Sabres are 1 of 2 teams with 0 points this season,  the other is the islanders. The Sabres are dead last in goals, goal differential, and points (cuz they have 0)

and The Hockey Guy ranked them 32nd in his early season power rankings 🙂

32 Thoughts today led off with Buffalo talk and the suggestion even Ruff has checked out already. Season is over. 

2 hours ago, nfreeman said:

TP isn't firing anyone tonight.

But at some point he will have to act.  The pressure, including from the NHL, will be too great.

The question is when will the camel's back break.

If they start the season, say, 0-10?  I think KA and Lindy are gone.

But what if it's just 0-6?  Or 1-9 with a couple of OTLs?

We all know the answer:  TP will stall and delay and hem and haw until Thanksgiving, or New Year's, or the Spring for that matter.

In the meantime, everyone can see that the wheels are falling off, and it's a question of when, not if.

Thanks for another great season, Terry and Kevyn!  Great job!

The one thing TP did do was set himself up for an easy hire upon firing. Jarmo would take the GM job and he's already on the payroll. You know it's coming, it's just when and how. Will it matter? who knows. can't be much worse. 

[Archie Lee]

Over the last two NHL seasons there have been twelve mid-season head coaching changes.  Three of those changes were done by teams in the midst of lost seasons where there was no goal of making the playoffs at the time of the change:

- in 23-24 NJ fired Ruff for Green Travis late in the year

- in 24-25 Chicago fired Richardson after only 26 games, but there were no illusions of them making a playoff run

- also in 24-25, the Flyers fired Tortorella with only 9 games left

The other nine mid-season head coaching changes in the last two seasons, were done by teams that had plans to make the playoffs and at an early enough point in the season where the change was intended to be impactful.  The only one that did not result in an improved winning/points % was Boston replacing Montgomery with Sacco early last year.  The other eight changes all resulted in improved performance, ranging from the modest in Ottawa going from a .423% under DJ Smith to a .500% under Jacques Martin, to the dramatic in Edmonton where the Oilers went from playing .269 hockey under Woodcroft to .702 under Knoblach.  The others were:

in 2023-24:

- NYI went from .544 under Lambert to .608 under Roy and made the playoffs

- LA went from .583 under McLellan to .632 under Hiller and made the playoffs

- STL went from .482 under Berube to .601 under Drew Bannister and missed

- Minn went from .368 under Evason to .587 under Hynes and missed

in 2024-25:

- Det went from .441 under Lalonde to .583 under McLellan and missed

- STL went from .431 under Bannister to .641 under Montgomery and made the playoffs

In the 14 year drought, the Sabres have not made a mid-season coaching change at a point in the season where the change could have a positive impact on that year's standings. They are crazy not to at least try. 

   

Edited 2 hours ago by Archie Lee

[SabresBillsFan]

I would fire the entire hockey department along with whatever scout wanted Mason Geertsen. I seen enough of Geertsen in the AHL with the Silver Knights and he shouldn’t be in the NHL. I would go so far in firing the strength and conditioning coaches as well.