Sabres Trade JJ Peterka to Utah for Defenseman Michael Kesselring and Forward Josh Doan

[Thorny]

Just now, kas23 said:

I think we are being bluntly objective in what Kesselring and Doan are and who they are not. There’s no candy coating here. We have hopes though. But we never drafted them, saw them grow before us, only to be tossed away. There’s no overly emotional connection to them (yet). 

So we are being objective now but weren’t about Peterka 

got it 

[Turbo44]

The podcast was interesting. Do Pete and rivet typically make things up or truthful?

[FrenchConnection44]

24 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

lol, I love the sudden bad mouthing of Peterka.   I guess it’s human nature.  

All this kid did was work hard and improve every year he was in the organization.  

I wouldn’t be surprised if Wormtongue Adams spread the rumor JJP wanted out so he’d have an excuse not to pay him.  

Remember this is the genius GM who gave out long term deals one year wonders Cozens, Samuelsson, UPL and Power and didn’t give deals to players who earned new deals like Ullmark, Reinhart, Mitts and Peterka.  

The only brightside of this deal is that we have a top 4 RHD.  The fact it’s 3-4 years too late to save this sinking ship is another issue.  Can’t wait to see what his new deal will be when he gets traded because his contract demands will be to much for the incompetent Adams.

Well all he really did was benefit himself, ultimately. He didn’t do all that work to commit to the Sabres organization and the fans to make them a winning playoff caliber team. He said, I don’t want to be part of this I want to pursue my own interests. In the final analysis— he contributed to his own development and advancement. That was his choice. And right at the time he could be maturing into a really good player who could help us get to the playoffs, not just one flashing future talent, he leaves. So, if he doesn’t want to be part of the solution with the Sabres then fine. But no reason to thank him. Or be appreciative of that.

[Second Line Center]

I feel like - if there is a plan - the idea is to not only be tougher to play against, be more physical - but increase the overall team IQ.  

 

I feel like both players acquired in the trade do that.  I think a lot of what players lack when it comes to defense is a very low hockey IQ.

 

These guys are pros they obviously know the game.  
 

But RELATIVE to who we play - I always feel like we’re the dumber team.  Especially when it’s playing in our own zone.  That was JJ.  
 

That said, it shouldn’t cost JJ to get these 2 guys but I’m sure we’ll get a defiant Adams after the draft talking about “we don’t know everything that goes on behind the scenes” or something.  

[klos1963]

31 minutes ago, 7+6=13 said:

Reading comprehension isn't your thing.  You cherry picked (misrepresented), instead of naming the ones that didn't perform after leaving.  I get it, you don't like being called out for your nonsense.

Careful what you say,  you can get suspended for speaking negative about another poster...or maybe that's just me. 

You really butchered this thread,  but good attempt to blame me when you are the clueless one. 

I sarcastically said that players do well in Buffalo and then regress once traded... anyone who's payed any attention to this team over the years would understand.  

[PerreaultForever]

1 hour ago, North Buffalo said:

5 year deal was in place before trade... maybe contigent on trade but reports say it happened before.

There was a delay at trade time and I'd assume that was to put the signing into place. Utah probably wouldn't finalize the deal without him signing. I am amused it's for 7.7 million for #77.

[Huckleberry]

11 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

The podcast was interesting. Do Pete and rivet typically make things up or truthful?

From my experience, they just throw crap around and see what sticks.

[PerreaultForever]

and wtf is with these stories that the two of them roomed together and collectively own 2 cats and a dog and I guess we traded for those as well and they came as a pair. That's just weird. 

[Night Train]

4 minutes ago, PerreaultForever said:

and wtf is with these stories that the two of them roomed together and collectively own 2 cats and a dog and I guess we traded for those as well and they came as a pair. That's just weird. 

 Are you a practicing baptist ?  

[Thorny]

Blinding light brigade nearly all gone. They barely shone at all 

[Second Line Center]

I do think we can put to bed “the losing got to him he saw how inept the organization was” narrative.  
 

Jeremy White was saying in NOVEMBER he’s heard rumblings that JJ doesn’t long for Buffalo.  So obviously, that was right.  
 

How could it be the losing?
 

His first season was the we just fell short of 8th season.  Season 2 was the disaster with Granato.  
 

So by November of season 3 he’s decided he’s done here bc of the losing?   We jumbled up this drought into JJ’s 2 plus seasons here.  
 

This was something else and not money.  The player either hated the city or the team wasn’t really long for him - maybe the speculation stuff off ice/attitude and what not was seen as a problem.  
 

Losing.  Doesn’t make sense.  

[thewookie1]

The only thing that gives me pause on Peterka was the fact he didn’t hit it off with Lindy whereas the rest did supposedly over the season. Now there’s no context to what that alluded to. Was it they didn’t see eye to eye comedically, that doesn’t matter. Was it preparation, then that could be a problem but not necessarily. Was it that Ruff wanted Peterka to put more effort into defense, that would be a serious issue.

[Believer]

10 hours ago, K012010 said:

Get Quinn tf off this team also. Another liability as a two-way player and the guy looks like ***** Bambi now. Can’t stay on his feet.

Another soft first rounder that can’t come close to living up to the expectations. Sell him on his high offensive potential just like JJ.

Just sell him.

Not the type of player we need to build a team hard to play against.

[dudacek]

24 minutes ago, Thorny said:

Someone else said it finally lol

I can’t decide whether it’s more embarrassing or just hilarious. Like ordinarily I’d say embarrassing but like…the turn on him in real time is so shockingly brazen and barren and obvious it’s like..damn. I couldn’t even make my meme work when I said “within 24 hours we’ll love the deal” 

Nope - Peterka is a bad apple within LESS than 24 hours. No attempt to hide it. 

I have said nothing about Peterka being a “bad apple” and I spoke out in favour of trading him long before last night.

I thought he was a talented cherry-picker who refused to get his hands dirty and backchecked like a 6-year-old.

He was handed a golden path to the first line without ever having to earn it or shoulder the responsibilities that came with the role.

He didn’t earn the contract he just signed any more than any of Adams favoured children and I’m glad we didn’t give it to him.

And I guess he did pretty much force his way out of town.

But apparently we’re not allowed to talk about such things because they somehow obscure how awful Kevyn and Terry are?

We know how awful Kevyn and Terry are. Nothing gets talked about around here more.

[Taro T]

23 minutes ago, thewookie1 said:

The only thing that gives me pause on Peterka was the fact he didn’t hit it off with Lindy whereas the rest did supposedly over the season. Now there’s no context to what that alluded to. Was it they didn’t see eye to eye comedically, that doesn’t matter. Was it preparation, then that could be a problem but not necessarily. Was it that Ruff wanted Peterka to put more effort into defense, that would be a serious issue.

Thing is, IF in fact he did want to leave (and the coincidental evidence indicates he might've) it doesn't fully make sense that it's because he couldn't abide Ruff.  Wasn't part of the reason they brought Appert up was to "work his magic" with Peterka and Quinn and the others that "learned how to be pros" under Seth's wonderful tutelage?  Shouldn't he have been able to be JJ's Craig Patrick when dealing with his own Herb Brooks?

[GASabresIUFAN]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Jump ahead to the 10:30 mark of this podcast to hear what Craig Rivet had to say about JJ's habits. I seriously doubt Craig and Petey carry water for Adams. 🤣

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-647-peterka-gone/id1590573108?i=1000714675628

Well I guess if Craig and Petey said it must be true.  They have never ever floated pure BS during a podcast.  

Give me a break.  No one goes from the AHL at 19 to a nearly 70 pt player in the NHL at 22 without working hard.  

Edited 4 hours ago by GASabresIUFAN

[Taro T]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Well I guess if Craig and Petey said it must be true.  They have never ever floated pure BS during a podcast.  

Give me a break.  No one goes from the AHL at 19 to a nearly 70 pt player in the NHL at 22 without working hard.  

Clearly he put work in.  Did he EVER put in any work beneath his own blue line, at least after he got to the NHL?  (He did get better about not sprinting up ice as soon as the Amerks might've gained control of the puck that rookie season of his under Appert.)

[GASabresIUFAN]

55 minutes ago, FrenchConnection44 said:

Well all he really did was benefit himself, ultimately. He didn’t do all that work to commit to the Sabres organization and the fans to make them a winning playoff caliber team. He said, I don’t want to be part of this I want to pursue my own interests. In the final analysis— he contributed to his own development and advancement. That was his choice. And right at the time he could be maturing into a really good player who could help us get to the playoffs, not just one flashing future talent, he leaves. So, if he doesn’t want to be part of the solution with the Sabres then fine. But no reason to thank him. Or be appreciative of that.

Lol, so it’s all JJP’s fault that this team didn’t make the playoffs.  Not the bad coaching, poor management, defensemen who can’t play defensemen or the crap goaltending.  No it’s JJP’s fault because he was out for himself.  I’m sorry, but that’s really funny.  

1 minute ago, Taro T said:

Clearly he put work in.  Did he EVER put in any work beneath his own blue line, at least after he got to the NHL?  (He did get better about not sprinting up ice as soon as the Amerks might've gained control of the puck that rookie season of his under Appert.)

Yes he did.  He’s also only 23.  

[Taro T]

1 minute ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Lol, so it’s all JJP’s fault that this team didn’t make the playoffs.  Not the bad coaching, poor management, defensemen who can’t play defensemen or the crap goaltending.  No it’s JJP’s fault because he was out for himself.  I’m sorry, but that’s really funny.  

Yes he did.  He’s also only 23.  

Prove it.

23 on this roster nearly has him above the median.

[shrader]

1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said:

Doan can probably keep #91 but Kesselring will have to change his number since #7 is retired.

Or Doan can go back to his dad’s 19 now that he’s in a place where it isn’t retired. 
 

Edit: Ah crap, it’s taken. But maybe Krebs isn’t around next year. 

Edited 4 hours ago by shrader

[dudacek]

Just now, shrader said:

Or Doan can go back to his dad’s 19 now that he’s in a place where it isn’t retired. 
 

 

Do you really want Krebs fighting in practice again?

[mjd1001]

1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

lol, I love the sudden bad mouthing of Peterka.   I guess it’s human nature.  

I don't know....I have been pretty consistent saying he was the 3rd or 4th worst guy on the team in his own zone. Others who are saying that now after the trade I recognize as some people who posted the same thing throughout the year and even last year.

So I'm not quite sure the 'sudden' part, a lot of it has been said about him for a while.

[PromoTheRobot]

13 minutes ago, GASabresIUFAN said:

Well I guess if Craig and Petey said it must be true.  They have never ever floated pure BS during a podcast.  

Give me a break.  No one goes from the AHL at 19 to a nearly 70 pt player in the NHL at 22 without working hard.  

You're accusing Adams of spreading bad stories about JJ, but a podcaster is flat out saying something concerning and you choose to ignore it. 

[jahnyc]

Will be depressing if Peterka does what Reinhart did when he went to the Panthers.  With the Sabres, Reinhart's highest goal total was 25 and he was a -28 in his last season with the Sabres.  He has averaged 40 goals per season with the Panthers and he was a plus 25 in his first season with the Panthers.

 

[PromoTheRobot]

I'm finally watching the Kesselring presser. First, I should have known he played his high school hockey in NH.

He sounds like a great kid and there is not a hint of disappointment in his demeanor. In fact he's sounds excited to be joining the Sabres.