GASabresIUFAN Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, dudacek said: It’s kinda funny with Buffalo. It seems like any time anyone remotely good there gets close to free agency, it’s like LOCK HIM UP! NOW! DONT LET HIM GET AWAY!” ….and that is why Skinner is making $9 mill per season. Of course the one guy we needed to lock up and didn’t is the Vezina winning goalie for Boston. I am glad this is done, but if Power doesn’t quickly develop into a 50 pt guy who is at least decent in his own end, this contract is an over payment. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, dudacek said: For a different perspective, Vancouver sportsradio take this morning: “Owen Power? Oh, yeah, he was the #1 pick a few years ago. I kinda forget about that guy” “It’s kinda funny with Buffalo. It seems like any time anyone remotely good there gets close to free agency, it’s like LOCK HIM UP! NOW! DONT LET HIM GET AWAY!” Just watch how much money they extend Hronek (traded a 1st for IIRC) and Petterson this season/offseason. They sing the same song and dance. Which is vastly better than locking up Beagle, Myers, Loui Eriksson, and acquiring OEL (and buying him out). They might be learning a bit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudacek Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, DarthEbriate said: Just watch how much money they extend Hronek (traded a 1st for IIRC) and Petterson this season/offseason. They sing the same song and dance. Which is vastly better than locking up Beagle, Myers, Loui Eriksson, and acquiring OEL (and buying him out). They might be learning a bit. In balance, the co-host said "they're just betting on their young guys, just like the Canucks did with Hughes, andlook how good that turned out' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curt Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 32 minutes ago, dudacek said: For a different perspective, Vancouver sportsradio take this morning: “Owen Power? Oh, yeah, he was the #1 pick a few years ago. I kinda forget about that guy” “It’s kinda funny with Buffalo. It seems like any time anyone remotely good there gets close to free agency, it’s like LOCK HIM UP! NOW! DONT LET HIM GET AWAY!” Interesting, honestly. What do these same guys say about how Vancouver has handled their young players? They have bridged most everyone and tried to use the short term savings to improve the roster. Results have been very mixed there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthEbriate Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, dudacek said: In balance, the co-host said "they're just betting on their young guys, just like the Canucks did with Hughes, andlook how good that turned out' What? Being reasonable? On a sports talk show? 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, dudacek said: For a different perspective, Vancouver sportsradio take this morning: “Owen Power? Oh, yeah, he was the #1 pick a few years ago. I kinda forget about that guy” “It’s kinda funny with Buffalo. It seems like any time anyone remotely good there gets close to free agency, it’s like LOCK HIM UP! NOW! DONT LET HIM GET AWAY!” Vancouver... hmmm is that the team that has less cap space than the Sabres do next year even though Buffalo has their core locked up for the next 8 years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: ….and that is why Skinner is making $9 mill per season. Of course the one guy we needed to lock up and didn’t is the Vezina winning goalie for Boston. I am glad this is done, but if Power doesn’t quickly develop into a 50 pt guy who is at least decent in his own end, this contract is an over payment. I like Ulmark but most good goalies can look great in Boston. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, GASabresIUFAN said: ….and that is why Skinner is making $9 mill per season. Of course the one guy we needed to lock up and didn’t is the Vezina winning goalie for Boston. I am glad this is done, but if Power doesn’t quickly develop into a 50 pt guy who is at least decent in his own end, this contract is an over payment. Linus Ullmark was a UFA and could sign where he wished. This is a prerecorded message. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro T Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 9 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Linus Ullmark was a UFA and could sign where he wished. This is a prerecorded message. He wasn't the prior year when they only gave him a 1 year extension. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabresparaavida Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 15 hours ago, Randall Flagg said: This one is just in a different boat for me, because I saw more seasons and a higher level of play from both 72 and 24 (though Cozens isn't too far off, though he's cheaper than Power), and Samuelsson just wasn't nearly as much money I'm not complaining, it just better work : ) Cozens signed part way through last season, and before last season his play was not indicative of the contract that he got. We had less than a season of high level play from Cozens before he got that contract. Power may not have been quite as impressive, but Granato trusted him enough to the point where Power was top 5 in the league in even strength minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GASabresIUFAN Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, LGR4GM said: Linus Ullmark was a UFA and could sign where he wished. This is a prerecorded message. The issue, as you well know, wasn’t his UFA year, but the year prior when he was only given a one year deal. Edited October 12, 2023 by GASabresIUFAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 3 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: Of course the one guy we needed to lock up and didn’t is the Vezina winning goalie for Boston. You referring to Mr. Post Season ? https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/linus-ullmark-record-in-playoffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radar Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, Night Train said: You referring to Mr. Post Season ? https://www.statmuse.com/nhl/ask/linus-ullmark-record-in-playoffs Ulmark was inconsistent in Buffalo. Many had doubts about him as a #1 goaltender. His Vezna is at least as much a reflection of the team defense as it is a reflection of his goaltending in my opinion. Frankly not sure many wouldn't have questioned us signing him for the contract Boston did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, GASabresIUFAN said: ….and that is why Skinner is making $9 mill per season. Of course the one guy we needed to lock up and didn’t is the Vezina winning goalie for Boston. I am glad this is done, but if Power doesn’t quickly develop into a 50 pt guy who is at least decent in his own end, this contract is an over payment. do you realize how much offense the Sabres created last year due to Power's breakout/transition from his own end? There is NO WAY it's an overpayment simply based off that. He was off the charts good as a rookie at that. Defense takes a few years...that's usually the last part of the game to come. Edited October 12, 2023 by matter2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerDave Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 4 hours ago, dudacek said: For a different perspective, Vancouver sportsradio take this morning: “Owen Power? Oh, yeah, he was the #1 pick a few years ago. I kinda forget about that guy” “It’s kinda funny with Buffalo. It seems like any time anyone remotely good there gets close to free agency, it’s like LOCK HIM UP! NOW! DONT LET HIM GET AWAY!” It's understandable to forget about players on a perennial non-playoff team. Wait until they get a look at him come playoffs 2024. They will notice. Power and others. Playoff hockey is when the rest of the league, as well as many non-rabid fans, start to pay attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoot da Puck Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Go Sabres Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Radar said: I like Ulmark but most good goalies can look great in Boston. Even average ones who come up small in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, Night Train said: Even average ones who come up small in the playoffs. like when the woman thinks she has a hot guy all to herself and is so excited until he pulls down his pants and he comes up...small... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi2000 Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 .....if he doesn't put up 2+ points and is at least a +2 tonite, then he's overpaid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Allen Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 Apologize in advance as I haven’t read up too much on this (and someone else might’ve commented on this earlier). But is there ever a chance Dahlin and Power play on the top line together? Or will they most likely always be split up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sabres Fan in NS Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 This is fantastic deal for the Sabres. A little bit less than what I expected on AAV. A good deal for Power too. These signings mean the Sabres are in business. The core is set. If Levi comes through the Sabres will be cup contenders for the next decade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In The Buff Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 I imagine this wont be too popular but on one hand these deals make total sense, we have our 'core'. On the other our defense is absolutely terrible & now we're rewarding the 2 main guys of our D with elite level deals for about a decade. Its just an interesting paradox i guess. And we're all banking on these later years where these players will eventually be worth their deals, as obviously they are not worth them now. Next we'll hear how teaching defense takes a long time for players to acclimate to the NHL! No argument there but I hope one day to see it i really do because our team could use some elite defensive play. Even average would be nice, but thats not exactly what we're paying for is it? These contracts would feel better to me if our defense wasnt near the bottom of every major category. Thats really all im saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted October 12, 2023 Report Share Posted October 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, In The Buff said: I imagine this wont be too popular but on one hand these deals make total sense, we have our 'core'. On the other our defense is absolutely terrible & now we're rewarding the 2 main guys of our D with elite level deals for about a decade. Its just an interesting paradox i guess. And we're all banking on these later years where these players will eventually be worth their deals, as obviously they are not worth them now. Next we'll hear how teaching defense takes a long time for players to acclimate to the NHL! No argument there but I hope one day to see it i really do because our team could use some elite defensive play. Even average would be nice, but thats not exactly what we're paying for is it? These contracts would feel better to me if our defense wasnt near the bottom of every major category. Thats really all im saying. Agee. To be a good, playoff team, you need to have good players, with a bulk of them in their prime. To be a GREAT team, one that is top 10 year after year and a cup contender, you really want to have at least a few of your top players on team friendly deals. Colorodo is a good example. Toronto is the example of a good team, a VERY good eam that hasn't gotten all the way yet, in large part because they have problems filling out the bottom of their roster because they don't really have team friendly deals at the top of their roster. They don't have any Busts which mean they will be very good, but greateness they haven't acheived because they aren't getting deals. Sure, those guys are now entering their prime sothere is a chance they get a cup, but they should have done more than they have to this point. So the Sabres....Dahlin is not a bargain but its likely not to be a 'bust' deal. But Tage is a bargain (so far) and Cozens and Power are projecting to be team friendly deals. That is why this might be looking good for the Sabres. Its not really about how much you are paying them when they sign the deals...look at the mid way point of the deal...how much percentage of the cap these guys will be getting in years 3, 4, or 5 of the deals comared to how good they are at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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