matter2003 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Wow! Great contract again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brawndo Posted February 7, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 And a serious thank you and tip of the cap to Sam Ventura 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Tage just texted him that he is buying dinner on the road since he is making that extra 100K a year 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: 70-80 points!? He's at a career high with 43...What are you basing this on? He will have 70 points by end of season ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustache of God Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 6 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I'm really shocked everyone thinks this is a great deal. Why? The first thing I thought was that is was a gross overpayment by over double. I've always seen him as a Girgensons replacement and a 3rd liner. Now he's making Tage Thompson money. Are we really saying he's an elite 2nd line center now? Horvat at 8.5 seems like a much better deal. You might want to get your eyes checked 🙂 . Girgensons career high is 30 points, Cozens has eclipsed that in his sophomore year with 38 and has already put up 43 points in 49 games while carrying two rookies. Dylan Cozens is not making Tage Thompson money, Tage Thompson is making Dylan Cozens money. Had Adams waited to sign Thompson his contract would be 10M+. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: I'm really shocked everyone thinks this is a great deal. Why? The first thing I thought was that is was a gross overpayment by over double. I've always seen him as a Girgensons replacement and a 3rd liner. Now he's making Tage Thompson money. Are we really saying he's an elite 2nd line center now? Horvat at 8.5 seems like a much better deal. Since I think this is a bit, let's just casually compare Bo Horvat and Dylan Cozens. g/60 = goals per 60 minutes. xgf-xga is a measure of possession quality. Bo Horvat, 27 (28 b4 next season): 55.5cf%, 1.8g/60, 1.3a/60, 3.1p/60, 0.3 xgf-xga Dylan Cozens, 21 (22 b4 next season): 53.3cf%, 1.3g/60, 1.9a/60, 3.2p/60, 0.7 xgf-xga So the real question is would you rather pay a 22yr old for 7 years or a 28 year old for 7 years? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Train Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Glad he's in the long term plans. Pleased. Go Sabres ! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matter2003 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: 70-80 points!? He's at a career high with 43...What are you basing this on? You know...since the season still has a bunch of games in it...it's very unlikely he doesn't score any more points this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) The Sabres are taking some gambles on these deals, but they are worthy gambles. You need to identify the young talent with leadership skills early on and get them locked up. Not doing so cost them guys like Reinhart and Ullmark. They will swing and miss on some of these deals, but if they hit on most of them (and so far Thompson and Samuelsson look like hits, and Cozens, in my opinion, will be a hit) the team will be in great shape for the foreseeable future. To add, they did a "bridge" deal with Dahlin and, in hindsight, a longer-term deal would have been the better route. They need to get him extended again sooner than later. He's thriving under the current regime and if his recent open letter is to be believed, he wants to be in Buffalo. Edited February 7, 2023 by msw2112 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freester Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 23 minutes ago, DarthEbriate said: Love it. What the hell, though, Cozens? Leaving money on the table. Why doesn't anyone want to get paid anymore? The cap is about to skyrocket: someone bet on yourself. (But yes, I hope it's all Bruins who bet on themselves and cripple their cap. That means you Pasta -- you're a great player and you deserve $11M.) (I still think he'll overtake Thompson in '24-'25 as the night-in/-out 1C and ice-time leader because of his all-around game.) No evidence the cap is about to skyrocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Brawndo said: And a serious thank you and tip of the cap to Sam Ventura For as much crap as Adams' has gotten from the fans the moves to add Karmanos and Venura are consistently overlooked. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Sabres' actual second line center Tyson Jost: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: 70-80 points!? He's at a career high with 43...What are you basing this on? Dylan Cozens is currently projected to finish the season with 81games 28goals 43assists for 71points. All he would need to do is maintain his current rate of play, not improve, just maintain. 1 minute ago, freester said: No evidence the cap is about to skyrocket. Either this offseason or next the cap will probably jump 6million bucks. It has been kept artificially low so the players can pay back escrow from the covid times and also Seattle's income has not fully been added to the ledger again because of the covid. Edited February 7, 2023 by LGR4GM 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BullBuchanan Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Taro T said: Elite & 2nd line seem contradictory terms. Is he elite RIGHT NOW? No. Is he a 2C right now? Yes. Is he still crazy young with a great possibility of being a 1C? Yes. The only disappointing part of this deal is that it isn't 8 years, They aren't contradictory at all. You have guys like Malkin, bakstrom, Tavares that cozens is now in the same money realm as (exceeds both malkin and bakstrom). It just seems like an insane gamble to me. He would have to double his production from last year at a minimum and then hold that throughout the deal for it to be worth it. 4 minutes ago, LGR4GM said: Dylan Cozens is currently projected to finish the season with 81games 28goals 43assists for 71points. All he would need to do is maintain his current rate of play, not improve, just maintain. If he maintains for 7 years agreed. He's done it for 40 games out of a career so far. Players regress all the time after big one-off years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bob_sauve28 Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 in 2030 He might leave us? 😪 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: They aren't contradictory at all. You have guys like Malkin, bakstrom, Tavares that cozens is now in the same money realm as (exceeds both malkin and bakstrom). It just seems like an insane gamble to me. He would have to double his production from last year at a minimum and then hold that throughout the deal for it to be worth it. If he maintains for 7 years agreed. He's done it for 40 games out of a career so far. Players regress all the time after big one-off years. I want you to look up Bo Horvat's career shooting percentage and his current shooting percentage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, Huckleberry said: Im not really sure where you are coming from, but Horvat is overpaid by 3 mill and might never score more than 50 points in a season which is his average. Cozens is looking like a 70-80 point player right now while carrying 2 rookies. Watch some more games first 🙂 Edit: really hope this is sarcasm xD He's at 54 right now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Good deal. 👍🏻 I wonder if 3 years down the road, an extension for Tuch will come from money currently paid to Skinner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDahlinstein Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 LETS GOOO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IKnowPhysics Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Quote 5 Team No Trade Clause in years 5-7 Covers 3 UFA years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveoath Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Is Adams an actual wizard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huckleberry Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: He's at 54 right now... The most he ever had in a season is 61 ? This reeks like a Stafford contract year deal. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorny Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Should be a swell contract for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGR4GM Posted February 7, 2023 Report Share Posted February 7, 2023 Just now, steveoath said: Is Adams an actual wizard? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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